More job losses for Illinois, YYYEEEAAAHHH!!

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  1. SaintofKillers

    SaintofKillers Member

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    Gun related see link.

    www.isra.org.
     
  2. GTSteve03

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    Maybe these idiot gunophobic politicos would learn a hard lesson when their tax base decides to up and leave.

    Consequences are a :cuss: aren't they?
     
  3. nucstl1

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    Class Action Suit?

    I wonder if it is possible for a class action suit to be brought against the Illinois House/Senate for violating the constitutional rights of its citizens. Just a thought.
     
  4. fletcher

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    Bad situation, but the companies' response to it is excellent.
     
  5. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

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    Well it was a forgone conclusion that the Executive Committee would pass amendment 9. The democratic leadership has kept the legislation in committees that it knew would pass it. (ie those that didn't have too many Southern Illinois members).

    I think it's interesting to see the lengths the antis, particularly the Brady organization is willing to go to pass this bill:
    http://www.isra.org/cap_com/cap_com060224.shtml
    Jeff
     
  6. Ridge

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    All I have to say is...and I'm not meaning this as an insult to anyone...But Kentucky will welcome the firearm companies with open arms!
     
  7. DonP

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    Blago already "responded" to the jobs issue

    One of his meat puppets was asked about the loss of 800 or more jobs and she said something along the lines of; "we'll probably save that many lives in one year".

    If they are asked if these guns are used in crimes the typical response is; "We can't wait until they are, they are too dangerous". That's like saying "We're cutting out your tongue because you might violate free speech laws".

    These are the same guys that won't share a list of underage girls that have had abortions because of their right to privacy but want the name of every Illinois gun owner in their hands

    These people are really living in a socialist utopia and can't grasp why people are moving out of Chicago and Cook County, or totally out of Illinois! They just raised the tax another $1 per pack on cigarettes in Cook County and are stunned that sales are going down! I guess a carton now goes for like $75 here now.

    They really don't have a clue and Blago's answer to every problem is to launch another unfunded plan like his "Free" pre-scvhool for all Illinois children and "Free" healthcare coverage for every citizen.

    Considering how his "Free" flu shots program last year and "Free" canadian prescription programs blew up in his face. (The flu vaccine he bought could not be imported and was past it's code date, and now he doesn't want to pay the French company he bought it from and none of the seniors wanted to take his bus trips to Canada to get prescriptions filled) But all that matters was he got his press conference and his face in the paper.
     
  8. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

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    Well at least Blago is getting national news coverage

    Not for his stupid assault weapons bill, but for appointing the Protocall Director of Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam to the Governor's Hate Crime Commission. I thought this embarressment would stay a regional story but Fox News has picked it up. Blago of course says he didn't know who he was appointing, after 3 other members have now resigned in protest. Of course he has to keep her on the commission. Can't back down, even though he says he didn't know who he was appointing.

    And now a Chicago alderman wants to name a street after a Black Panther leader who was shot to death in a police raid in 1969.

    There is no way he should be able to be elected dog catcher, much less for a second term as governor, but I don't believe the state republican party is up to the challenge of beating him....

    Jeff
     
  9. Johnnybgood

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    I'm not possitive

    but I think HB2414 is out of the books. The deadline for them to do something with it was today and they did not bring it up for a vote. Waiting to see what happens.:confused:
     
  10. Standing Wolf

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    How long do you suppose such a suit would last in an Illinois court?
     
  11. longhorngunman

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    Texas would welcome the companies with open arms!:D BTW I truly feel for the people of Illinois that live outside of ****cago yet have to abide by it's laws. :barf:
     
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    It's a pity. Zastrina and I LOVED living in Chicago (food/neighborhoods/music/theatre/the Cubbies!) but you couldn't pay me enough to move back into IL let alone Chicago.:(
     
  13. stevelyn

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    I'm glad to see the gun companies getting slapped around a little bit by the IL legislature. I hope other anti states with gun industries in them follow IL's lead. Maybe it'll be a much needed wake up call for them.

    For far too long gun owners have taken the brunt of the anti's efforts while the gun companies stood by and didn't join the fight with us. Since they're now being targeted by the antis perhaps in the future they'll understand that an attack against gun owners is an attck against them and compromise isn't an option.
     
  14. Thundercleese

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    I'm not 100% sure of the implications of the "Substantive Bills" deadline, but it seems to me this is actually far better than we've done in past years fighting this particular bill off. Last year it was called to a vote on the floor, narrowly going down. This year it sounds like it won't see the light of day (again, maybe).

    Still, I'm cautiously optimistic. They'll put it on the backburner until next year of course, but this is an election year and we might be able to shake up the governorship.
     
  15. Jeff White

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    NRA ILA is reporting that it won't be called

    Got this in an NRQ ILA e-mail alert today:

    ISRA has this on their website:
    http://www.isra.org/
    There are all kinds of legislative tricks they can use to bring this back from the dead. Until Daley is dead or in prison, we're going to have to deal with this.

    Jeff
     
  16. Don Gwinn

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    Shell bills are scary, and most sessions they read more shell bills through than actual bills. More shell bills than they could amend and pass if they did nothing all day but rubber-stamp the things.

    In other words, there will not come a time when 2414 is really dead for the session until the time when the House takes up Senate bills and vice versa. Even then, it's only dead for one session. It can always come back.

    However, I've been wondering for the past couple of years why on Earth they didn't rewrite this thing to fix the truly idiotic flaws that even anti-gunners wouldn't support (such as arresting a police officer for possessing his issued weapon while on duty!) I expected them to do so someday and really thought that would mean passage unless something changed drastically in the legislature.

    Well, the legislature didn't really change, and they made 9 amendments, and apparently they know they still don't have the votes. Now I can move on to worrying about what will happen after the election when Blago and the leadership feel secure.
     
  17. Atticus

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    Hmmm. Maybe you'll get lucky, and he'll die in prison like the last notorious criminal boss who ran Cicero. Didn't Marion Fed replace Alcatraz? Would be a fitting place for him to end up..and hopefully with a social disease or two like Big Al.
     
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