Mosin Nagant popularity

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jchico28

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I don't post much so forgive me. But I am most curious as to why this historic military rifle is so popular. I'm referring to the Bud's gunshop most sold firearms in 2010.
I have some ideas such as simplicity/reliability/firepower, affordability, hold/increase their value, yada yada.
But really, what is it about these rifles?
Any real info on this? Any thoughts?
Sorry if I missed some other related thread.
 
I bought one because they're just interesting. It's the size of a flintlock musket (super long barrel - with super long triangular bayonet to boot!), and the ammo is pretty cheap to shoot and readily available.

I honestly can't believe that they're under $100. And this is a rifle that served the Soviets through several wars. I mean, a war tested high power military rifle for under $100? That's unbelievable. Back in the day, K98 Mausers, M1 Garands and M1 Carbines were this cheap. I have a feeling this is the timeframe that Mosin Nagants are in their "used to be, i could buy a crate of them for $79 each...with all the accessories" and I sure wanted at least one in my collection before they start climbing.

I think the rifle just looks like it's from another era - and people are always interested to shoot it.

The surplus ammo is corrosive, so cleaning right away is a must. The bore on mine is so absolutely perfect that i'd cry if it got messed up.

One drawback is how sticky my bolt gets. I've found that mopping each round with some Ballistol keeps the action slick, with no lockups.
 
I have a model 44 & 38.They are good for hunting if they shoot fine. I got them as I like Mil. Surplus Fire-Arms. They can be made into fine hunting & S.D. rifles. They fall right between the .308 & .30-06 rds. and some are in wonderful shape. As a backup rifle they cannot be beat! The prices are great &you can get good ammunition on top of that! I am going to put new stock on 44 model. These rifles are a good buy for new hunters. You can pickup a nice one that looks NIB! OR you can get them that look like battle field pickups! Choose well get some good ammunition & have fun, be safe!
 
What other gun with such a rich history gives you the hitting power of a 30-06, accuracy plenty good enough to hunt any north American game, unrivaled simplicity of operation and maintenance, durability of a tank, and fires dirt cheap readily available ammo, all for around a hundred bucks?
 
Fun to shoot, fun to hunt with, a piece of history. Reasonably priced extremely durable rifle that doesn't break the bank to shoot a couple hundred rounds in the afternoon. Back when ammo was really cheap a few years ago, we were using those full power rifles for plinking like a .22lr. Once you get one and shoot it a little bit, you'll see why they are so popular, and if not, you are only out about 100 bucks. :D
 
They are so popular because they are the only mil-sup left in the world you can still buy for $79.95.

Had a new boat load of $29.95 98 Mauser's hit these shores, or the DCM released another million new 03A3 Springfield's for $19.95?

You couldn't give a Mosen-Nagant away, even with a case of free corrosive ammo thrown in.

At least that is the way it was in the 1960's when there were still O3A3's from the NRA, and good 98's setting in wood whisky barrels in the hardware store aisles..

rc
 
Cheap is cheap. I like 'em and will get some more. They come in all kinds of different variants, so for those who like collecting things, anything, there is enough to keep you interested. If you are just getting into hunting, it's a great starting rifle. If you're into history, it's a great gun with a lot of that. It fills a lot of niches and even if 1903's and K98's suddenly become cheap, Mosins'll still be popular and cheap, because they were made in huge numbers for over 50 years. But they won't be cheap forever. Give it another 3 years and they'll be up there in price, just because of their popularity. The waters are already being tested by some as a slow creep up in price is already going on in some places.
 
I don't see how you can look at the $80 retail price and have any questions.
 
Cheap, dripping with history, cheap to shoot, accurate, great to hunt with and god forbid if you say anything less on THR about them. I think there should be an entire sub-forum just for them. I'm wore out reading about them.
 
Dirt cheap and a pointy bayonet on it. Most people see it as an inexpensive rifle to add to their collection.
 
What first made me fall for MN's was a deal from Century.
You Fix-em M-44's for $15 + $2 fex-em fee.
Bought 5,all were working guns,missing a few handguards,cleaning rods...
But they worked.
Then came a 5-fer in the "wrap" for I think $250.
Then came IOA with $40 shipped M-44's.
The list keeps going. ;)
 
Fast forward to the year 2040, collectors will be talking about how they wished they were smart enough/young enough to have taken advantage of the deals on Mosins in this time period. They don't do anything better or worse than the deals on 1903s, K98s, Arisakas, M1s, 1917s, et al the community has seen over the last 70 years.

Mosins are just simply the current collectors cheap way to build a collection. As some of the more experienced collectors here have mentioned, the days of hardware store whiskey barrels full of milsurps are long gone.

They are inexpensive, have military history, help to round out collections, have a certain... "aesthitic appeal"... What's not to like?
 
What, who would not like a rifle made in 1930 that is still shootable? Plus, it comes with a bayonet, super cheap surplus ammo... And I only paid $150 or so shipped and FFL fees?

Don't like 'em, don't buy them. More for me. :) Plus you get all the cosmoline you want with them.
 

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M 91/30 was there before the PPsh, M44, SKS, AK47 and 74. What s not to love . It has so much history that only thing that kept her unpopular is her ugly looks. But she has survived 121 yrs and never skip a beat. Thanks to all the cheap imports we are enjoying now. LOL
 
Everyone has mentioned the low price.

They come shipped to my door - no FFL - and the UPS guy now insists on staying around for the opening ceremony after I told him to stick around the first time I received one. I think he's buying them now .....

I haven't shot them that much lately because I'm focused on handguns and reloading, yet in the last action rifle shoot I hit the 200 and 150-yard plates with the first shot.

Twenty years of studying and using Russian, quite a bit of time spent in the Soviet Union and its former constituent republics (was nice to sit in Stalin's chair on his special WWII railroad car), and a lifelong near-obsessive interest in WWII history, kinda makes them of special interest to me.

I fixed the too-short post on two of my sights with coffee stirrers and some automotive glue - sighted them in at the range, used scissors to clip down the "posts" til they were correct - and now elevation is fine.

Pulled one of my classics one day last year, spent an hour loading up for the range, when I got to the firing line, realized I'd forgotten to bring my bolts ..... !!!!! .... no problem, young guy at the next table (sort of a character, had about 10 wildly diverse rifles) happened to be shooting a pristine Romanian M44 - I asked if I could borrow his bolt. Checked with my Okie headspace guage, of course it was fine, and I proceeded to shoot off $25 worth of ammo - that's a few hours - with the borrowed bolt.

Not a hunter, but know some, and they love them, especially the carbines, for pig hunting. My carbine is valued because of the concussion that always causes a pause at the firing line ("oh - one of those ....."), and of course the fireballs. And of course I am permitted to imagine that the M38 in the hands of the Soviet soldier raising the red flag on the Reichstag in May 1945, in the famous photo, is actually the one sitting back in the spare bedroom .......

Measured by pounds of fun per dollar, it's hard to think of a better value than the Mosin - just depends on one's sense of "fun".
 
Along with a pretty big list of replies so far there's three big threads that pretty much sum it all up along with supplying a lot of hints on fixing them up to shoot better and be more fun.

THE Mosin thread
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=334979

Am I the only one that does NOT like Mosin's? The other side of the coin....
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=620281

And the rebuttal thread for those that DO like their Mosins... which oddly enough has the same sort of replies you're getting here... :D
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=636781

All three threads are currently running. Or currently enough that it's not too late to post to them without looking a bit silly.

Oh, and I like mine for all the reasons mentioned already. It's the cheapest history we can buy these days of this sort. And heck, I can't even buy the bullets alone for reloading for as little as the surplus ammo costs.
 
Yep, the plain fun of shooting a Mosin combined with the accuracy of the ladder site has me hooked. We have a 300 yd and a 580 yard target where I shoot and I can generally hit either with the first shot and proper adjustment for elevation. There is something to be said for crude simplicity over technological marvels, but I do enjoy shooting my technological marvels too!
 
Yeah I like them for all the reasons listed as well. I do not LOVE them, but I thought it would be fun to ask for one for Christmas and my parents bought it, at the ABSURD full retail price of $150 :) It is fun to take apart and appreciate the Russians' industrious design, they area hoot to shoot, and if they go on sale for under $100 I would be mighty inclined to pick up a few more just to have for the sake of having them. If they go up in price, sweet. I am not holding my breath though. If they never go up in value they will still make interesting pieces to have and I could always gift them if the occasion arises. Not too many of my guns I'd be willing to give as gifts... and I also like to have it as a "backup" rifle. Iron sights, I am not worried about breaking it, etc.
 
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