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Mosin Nagant

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I have a 1954 vintage Romanian M-44.

Good for clearing the firing line of other shooters, particularly when using some of the "Heavy Ball" ammo. I once had a guy shooting a .300WinMag tell me MY gun was Too **** LOUD! ! !
 
I only have one, a 1938 Tula 91/30. In very good shape, and seems to shoot pretty good, considering I can't see the dang sights. Currently in the process of fitting a scout scope on it, and refinishing the wood.
 
Thanks Hoppy... I'm going to have to look at those. I thought the gun was very accurate.

I it funny somebody mentioned shooting them in a T-shirt.. and I could not help but laugh, because that is what we were doing.
 
Accutraments

To really enjoy you have to have some of the accumentrents(check out the headgear):
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And my 91/30 is a 1 moa shooter once the barrel was corked.

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I'm looking to pick up a new rifle but I can only spend upwards of $300 on one and I'm thinking of getting a Mosin Nagant. It'd be my first one, any pointers or recommendations?
 
I'm looking to pick up a new rifle but I can only spend upwards of $300 on one and I'm thinking of getting a Mosin Nagant. It'd be my first one, any pointers or recommendations?
If $300 is your total budget, then get one of the Soviet versions for <$100 and spend the rest on ammo. The remaining $180-200 will buy over 1000 rounds of surplus ammo. At least one of my Mosins has gone with me on every single range trip I've taken since early August (4) and I've still only gone through about 300 rounds. 7.62x54r is one of the few affordable cartridges (especially full power) to shoot today.

If $300 is your rifle budget alone, you might be able to swing a Finn. Otherwise, get two or three Soviets (maybe one of each major type) or do as I suggested above.
 
Any good soviet version you'd recommend? Are they (for the most part) the same? I haven't read up on anything related on them just yet.
 
You could grab a 91/30 and an M44 for $200 or so, given shipping and transfer fees, those are the major ones.

Note on the surplus ammo: If you shoot at a public range, make sure they don't have a problem with steel core ammo. Not all of the surplus is steel core, but this stuff always seems to be available in batches, and you can't always dictate what kind you want. Though I'm betting someone here knows where to find a variety. I picked up a couple hundred rounds of Czech silver tip over a year ago and haven't even made it through 60 rnds of it yet, nowhere really to shoot it. oh well, it'll be here for when the apocalypse arrives and I need to defend against mutant zombie rabbits.
 
Irish Maddog, the picture of me in the cap shooting my 1943 Izhevsk 91/30 has the bayonet extended, just cuz its fun. Once I thoroughly cleaned the barrel, and corked the barrel under the front band, it became a 1 moa shooter. It was purchased for $70 bucks, and i picked up a good scope from wally world for and additional 120 bucks. It shoulders easily, and using Winchester softlead nose ammo could easily be my Deer rifle. The fact that the ammo is so cheap allows me to practice much more than my buddy with his High priced 30-06.

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I'm considering one of the repro 'snipers' as one of my next purchases. I get a 91/30, pike bayonet, and neat scope all in one! I think that'd be a hoot to shoot, even if I didn't get a really accurate one. Plus, I handload, so there's some more fun for it right there. :)
 
here's mine 1925 Izhevsk ex -dragoon
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when i got it there was practically no finish left on so i put a couple of coats of clear bulls eye shellac after stripping the old finish off , i also own a 1944 m44 HPIM1450.gif but i gave it to my little brother (14)
i also took the finish off that but that was 100% original finish but he didn't like the red so i did it up with poly .
 
it shot nice, but man what a horrible trigger

the Chinese T53 triggers break like glass. if you want to give Mosins another try, Omega Weapon Systems has T53's for 55$, they have rather beat down wood but shoot good.
http://www.omega-weapons-systems.com

Actually trigger job is easy to do- A. A. Jurjev´s "sportshooting" book from 60´s or so includes good instructions.

Tested it with Finnish M39- its really good now, 2lbs.
Not BR -level, but one really dont need any better IMHO.

Anybody can do it with good files, fine sandpaper and basic tools.
 
Mosins are the gateway drug into the milsurp world. :D

First you read about how cheap and fun they are on the internets.

Then you may pick up a garden variety M44 or 91/30 at a show with a can of surplus 54R from the local show.

Then you start reading about it's history. Then Soviet history. Then WWII history...

Then you end up wanting all the variants, or a Mauser, or a Garand, or an Enfield...

Oh man don't start!
 
Thanks Rmac58, story is I woke up at the unreasonably early hour of 6am this morning, normal when I'm employed but I'm not, when I'm use to about 11:30, bored out of my wits I had the sudden urge to do something with bullets lol, I posted this pic as a poster on another thread.
 
I have a beater Type 53 with an excellent trigger, but it's too ugly to post here. I also just got this M39, it has a pretty nice trigger but the travel is long. Haven't shot it yet, but the bore is basically brand new so it should shoot well.

Not sure why I don't own a 91/30 yet, I started with the more rare variants.
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The 44's recoil does not seem bad after about sixty rounds in an hour or so. The 91/30 seemed worse, and maybe because more of the powder burned before the bullet left the muzzle?

Somehow, with no pad it causes no more bruising on this skinny 53 year-old, whereas my former (it was an AO...) M-1 Carbine gave me a clear greenish bruise after about thirty rounds in thirty minutes. Can't figure out the 44 and have somewhat bony shoulders. If the ammo were to cost much more, it might hurt during each round.

The recoil pad stays on the Norinco SKS because the stock is so short.
 
I've got both the M44 and the 91/30 and have to say I was amazed at the accuracy and power of these guns. They're designed to be shot with the bayonet extended, which is a bit of an issue -- the 91/30's bayo is firmly attached requiring a smack with a wood block -- but they're beautifully designed rifles and lots of fun to shoot.
 
They certainly are fun little plinkers. I have shot them on a few occasions. I don't own any, and don't ever plan on getting any (I know I know there is probably something mentally wrong with me to not want one).

Although I have had an incident like foghorn had only in reverse. My .300wm feather weight carbine with a muzzle break is much much louder than any nagant I have ever heard. I even had a couple kid's shooting their m44's comment on it. That was the first time I got to shoot a nagant. He let me try his, and I let him try mine. Poor kid scoped himself too. I felt bad over that one.
 
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