Most accurate 9mm for under $1000

[mizer67]

Most of the posts in this thread aren't useful for determining anything as they don't have any quantifiable data nor a consistent standard of measurement.

Anecdotal data of "tackdriver", "very accurate" or "silver dollar" sized groups or rounds "stacked on top of one another" at 30 or 50 ft. tell you more about the shooter than the gun, since almost any gun is capable of that at those distances.

Even those posts with quantifiable data are only a sample of one.

And regarding an accuracy standard, for any significant accuracy testing, 25 yds. is the minimum distance as is shooting 10 round groups because literally almosty any working service pistol, if shot a sufficient amount, will stack 5 rounds on top of one another at 25 yards. I have 9mm pistols that'll shoot 5 rounds into .4" CTC in a 10-round group that measures 1.5" CTC at 25 yards. It's random chance, not precision. 50 yards is the gold standard for pistol accuracy testing, if you think you have an accurate pistol at 25 yards, you prove it at 50 yards.

 

[boatdoc173]

What do you feel is the most accurate full size 9mm pistol for under $1000.
I realize I will probably get a bunch of different answers and that for any given model one may be better or worse than others. (gun variation)
Just curious about your opinions, which of course I will ignore.

@jeepercreeper -- I agree-- the cz 75 frame( cz 75 b, 85b or sp01) are amazing right out of the box-- cannot tell you ho w many times a range officer has had to close his gaping mouth after trying mine( I own 1 of each and LOVE THEM)--these are hammer fired beauties

for striker fired it is walther ppq vs sig p320--I think walther is better but not much

happy shooting

 

[boatdoc173]

love H+Ks BUT the trigger work takes a lot of time to get it right--then they are amazingly accurate

used bIll springfield to do a trigger job on my p30 lem v1--much bette r now!! give him a try

sigs ( have the p226 and p229) and berettas are great and like H+K amazingly accurate once you figure out the exact point of aim( usually a 12 o clock hold works for these)

to each their own--I wills till go with a cz 75, 85 or sp 01 over any of them

 

[boatdoc173]

EAA Witness Elite Match, hands down.

from what I know of this weapon it is a CZ clone

not surprised you love it--enjoy

 

[ny32182]

Witness is loosely based on the CZ design, but none of the parts are interchangeable except a couple of small springs.

The guy I mentioned earlier published this publicly a while back, so probably wouldn't mind it here.

Witness stock 2, 50 yards, 1.5", 15 rounds:

 

[Dudedog]

Unfortunately The EAA Witness is not on California's approved list.
Leaning towards a CZ but still thingking about it.
Thanks again everybody.

 

[Dudedog]

Sigh,
I broke my own $1000 limit and bought a SIG P226 Dark Elite.
Since I am in CA I have to wait 10 days befor I can pick it up.

I would have liked a CZ SP01 Tactical but the decocker SP01 is not on CAs list.

I believe I will be happy with the SIG, feels noce in my hand.

 

[ku4hx]

Still voting for my old "T" model BHP. Way under a grand when I bought it new in 1969.

 

[ritepath]

You will be happy with the sig, beyond a shadow of a doubt.


Too bad you live where you do or you would have known what CZ love is all about.

 

[Ky Larry]

For me, my CZ-75BD is the most accurate 9 minimeter I've ever shot. Only upgrades are Houge grips and Wolff recoil and extractor springs. It eats everything I freed it and has never had a hicup. However, you will have to do your own home work by shooting lots of different guns. Nice problem to have.
P_.S. I've had my -75BD sinse they could be had for $250.00. Too bad they're cheap Commie junk that won't stand up over time.

 

[243winxb]

9mm Accuracy Testing

http://s338.photobucket.com/user/joe1944usa/library/FirearmsReloading102/9MM%20Accuracy For 9mm accuracy, go to the American Rifleman Magazine online and read about different models and testing.http://www.americanrifleman.org/

 

[Dudedog]

Many good firearms have come from Communist countries. My Makrov is dead reliable. I imagine if it wasn't the designer would have visited Sibera at the least

The CZ75 DB was also at the top of my list for a 3rd 9mm, but there are no crippled California ones to be had so I bought the Sig which was also at the top of the list but over my initial $1000 price point.

 

[Bentonville]

Hasn't anyone here shot the HK VP9? I don't see how anything could be more accurate out of the box and the price is way less than $1000.

 

[Dudedog]

VP9 is another gun sadly not on California's list.
I am serious, scratch off about 80 to 90% of the handguns currently made.:banghead:

So now I have 3 9s (or soon will) Taraus PT99, Springfield XD subcompact and the SIG P226 as soon as I can pick it up.

 

[Ignition Override]

Is this for tight, consistent groups at a distance against static targets, or only for self-defense against the species Homo Thugiens (<15 feet)?

DudeDog: Three friends in nearby Desoto County MS carry the Polish P-64, also chambered in Makarov, for its reliability and size.

 

[george burns]

It's more how you shoot the gun, rather than the gun itself.

 

[Dudedog]

I caved and spent more than $1000.Looking forward to shooting my new SIG P226 Dark Elite this weekend.

http://www.thehighroad.org/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=768450

 

[kmbrman]

One of the best 9 mm. in accuracy has to be the CZ- P 07 Duty . From my 50 ft. rest ,I have fired 1'' to 1.25'' groups using Fiocchi 124 JHP. bullets . I attribute the accuracy to the double action trigger , and firing in single-action mode. Makes a great range gun !

 

[ProPhetiQ]

The most accurate 9mms (for me, and I have shot/owned most major brands) have been the:
Walther PPQ
H&K VP9

Then right after those 2 are
Sig p250/320
CZ P09

 

[ponch327]

I think most modern pistols (sig,beretta,cz) prob shoot better then people can shoot them

 

[powwowell]

I have done as well with Glock 17s, as I have anything else.

 

[Dudedog]

While my Sig Dark Elite was at Sig getting its sight fixed I picked up a Springfield 1911 "Loaded" 9mm.

Sweet, sweet, sweet.
Likeing it lots!

This is a mouse load.
3.4 Titegroup MBC coated 125 cone.
Just had to pull one to mess things up.

 

[CZ9shooter]

My CZ75bdPolice is very accurate. Espescially with my XTP load developed specifically for it. The modded trigger action helps too.

A dude at the range let me try his Witness Match Elite one time. I was equally impressed with it. I am unaware of any mods or custom loads he may have been using. With the SA only trigger I wouldn't imagine it didnt need much.

I have toyed with the idea of going SA only with my CZ. Also deleting the FPB. That gun would be a dream to shoot. I havent made the leap yet though.

 

[Lycidas Janwor]

Under a $1,000? There's a ton of excellent and very accurate pistols under $1,000. Also, I would certainly never pay even near that much for any new pistol. Price is no indication of accuracy. The most accurate pistol I own and have ever owned is my CZ 75 PO1 9mm. I've had it going on 7 years now. I do have others and have had many others that I also swear by, not at. I've been shooting in general since 1972. I love my Glock in .357 Sig, very accurate. I've also owned two different Springfield XDm pistols that were very accurate. I've never owned a pistol with a 4" or 5" barrel that I considered inaccurate. You can't go wrong with any of these. All of the known reliable brands are deadly accurate in practiced hands.

I do recommend staying away from any snub nosed pistols or revolvers unless you plan on affixing it to a stick as a head conker. Shooting one is a complete waste of time. They won't hit the broad side of a barn at 10'.

Find one YOU like and make it your own. [emoji6]

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I mean, just about any every-day-carry pistol in 9mm is way more accurate off the shelf than you or I can get out of it. I mean, if you want a range pistol, or a pistol specifically made for competition shooting, you can get a really nice Glock or Springfield Amory pistol in 9mm that will shoot tight goups at extended range, especially if you are using custom ammo.

I mean, are you wanting a target shooting 9mm? Or are you wanting an every-day-carry pistol?

 

[Lycidas Janwor]

I think most modern pistols (sig,beretta,cz) prob shoot better then people can shoot them

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