Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Most authentic GI 1911

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by herkyguy, Oct 12, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. herkyguy

    herkyguy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    1,358
    Ok, I want a 1911 that best mirrors the original design of the gun as it was intended for military. The gun will not be my primary defense gun, nor do I plan on shooting in competition. I do, however, want a reliable and fairly priced handgun. Hence, I don't want a non-firing replica. I want to shoot it from time to time, but I am mostly interested in owning a 1911 that catches the history of the gun.

    Is the Springfield GI the best? Are there any others in that price range?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Demitrios

    Demitrios Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2008
    Messages:
    615
    Location:
    Northern NJ
  3. Quack

    Quack Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2003
    Messages:
    1,400
    Location:
    Cleveland, OH
    for once i'm gonna say Colt.
     
  4. gunnie

    gunnie Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    787
    the fjestad blue book lists a 60% "ARGENTINE CONTRACT MODEL 1916" for $600, and notes that most specimens have been refinished. [even less $]

    for your stated uses, why get a repro?

    gunnie
     
  5. Cards81fan

    Cards81fan Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2009
    Messages:
    429
    Location:
    Tulsa, Creek Nation, Indian Territory
  6. herkyguy

    herkyguy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    1,358
    I didn't think any older models would be in my price range. The colt is nice as well.
     
  7. woad_yurt

    woad_yurt Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    2,265
    Location:
    36° 31' 47.1742" X -87° 21' 34.0301"
  8. foghornl

    foghornl Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Messages:
    7,403
    If you want a current production make but very close to WWII pistol, Springfield "GI-45" is the way to go.
     
  9. BHP FAN

    BHP FAN Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    5,810
    Location:
    Northern California
    I got a Rock Island Arsenal GI .45 for $400.00,and love it.With the $200.00 you save you can buy ammo.
     
  10. weisse52

    weisse52 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1,341
    Location:
    Bountiful, Utah
  11. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,798
    Location:
    Pullman, WA
    Actually, the Colt WWI, WWII, and 70 Series that Colt has labeld/named
    as "Reissue' only approximate the finish and features that are external and like theorigianls. Internally, they are all identical to the 80 Series with it's
    Firing Pin mechanism but the mechanimsm is simply not used in this way Colt
    has common replacement parts for all of the 1911s.

    Does anyone know if the WWI and WWII 'Reissues" have
    "Property of the US Goverment" stamped into the RH side of the frame
    above the trigger guard like the M1911 & M1911A1?

    Randall
     
  12. JTQ

    JTQ Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    5,315
    Location:
    NW Florida
    BlindJustice wrote,
    I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying here.

    The WWI, and Series 70 Reproduction don't have the Series 80 firing pin safety. I'm not sure whether the WWII model has a firing pin safety, but it is no longer in production.

    Auto Ordnance makes a pretty authentic looking parkerized 1911A1 (WW II issue look). However, it does have a firing pin safety if that matters to you.
     
  13. General Geoff

    General Geoff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    5,060
    Location:
    Allentown, Pennsylvania
    Rock Island Armory, or Springfield GI.45.
     
  14. Fremmer

    Fremmer Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,284
    Colt series 70. It won't be an exact replica, but you'll have to buy a more expensive older Colt for that, anyway. It'll be pretty close, and at a reasonable price. And it'll be a Colt.
     
  15. stageman

    stageman Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2009
    Messages:
    76
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    :)This is what my authentic RemRand looks like:
     

    Attached Files:

  16. w_houle

    w_houle Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    789
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    USFA has a nice looking example.
     
  17. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    21,956
    The USFA is an extremely expensive gun, accurately representing no actual period Colt pistol

    On a budget, the RIA has a good reputation and is of 1911A1 configuration, barring markings. We did have a bit of a military presence in the Philippines at one time and they do remember what our weapons look like.
     
  18. kanook

    kanook Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,967
    The ones I have seen, Yes. It looked like a brand new 1918 issued sidearm
     
  19. rondog

    rondog Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    6,773
    Location:
    Commurado
    This is TOTAL BS!!! I have one of each, do you??? They're NOT made like the Series 80's in any way, shape or form. Neither of mine have ANY extra parts in them. Sacrilege!

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2009
  20. w_houle

    w_houle Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    789
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    If the USFA 1911 doesn't accurately depict anything of the period, then: What's their point, and why the cost?
     
  21. rondog

    rondog Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2007
    Messages:
    6,773
    Location:
    Commurado
    You're buying their name, and the "prestige" it brings.
     
  22. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,798
    Location:
    Pullman, WA
    I'll look for the source of what I posted.

    Personally, I don't give a fig about the internals
    as long as it works. I'd like one that looks like the
    Ranington-Rand or Ithaca 1911A1 I carried in the USN
    that were part of the small arms on board a couple of
    Destroyers I served. Or just a 70 Series Gov. Model
    is probably close enough

    Good luck to the O.P. for finding what he wants.

    Randall
     
  23. Girodin

    Girodin Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2008
    Messages:
    5,523
    Maybe a Norinco it is a "model of the 1911A1"

    It is the same price range as the RIA but probably a better made gun.
     
  24. mec

    mec Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Messages:
    4,458
    The Colt WWI and 1918 are near identical to the originals. Some local 1911 collectors looked at my WWI and said that it is exact except for the direction of the surface polish texture.
    there is a minor difference in the chamber "throat". Mine does not like sharp shouldered bullets but is reliable with ball. A friend has one that will work just fine with the needle-nosed swcs.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    the Colt has a true half cock hammer notch instead of the shelf of the series. It has the original frame configuration and not the '10 mm cut."
    The only series 80 part in mine is the extractor which has the half loop for the series 80 safety plunger. None of the passive safety parts are there but the series 80 type extractors will work in regular 1911s too.
    [​IMG]
    the colt address line and the US property line are present on the wwI colt.

    Mine has a 3.5 pound out of the box trigger pull which is considerably lighter than most original GIs or current commercial 1911s. It is a very accurate shooter.
    [​IMG]

    I notice that the current issue of Combat Handgunner has a review of this modely by a master level bullseye shooter. He shot a 25 yard slow fire group that looked like a custom gun fired from a ransom rest.
     
  25. MachIVshooter

    MachIVshooter Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,243
    Location:
    Elbert County, CO
    The Armscor/RIA pistol is closer. Both are made out of country and have cast frames anyway, so I see no reason to pay the extra $200 for the less correct Springer.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page