308win
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When I was duck hunting it was <deleted> who shot at your swings.
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Most irritating behaviors in the field..
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KB
Yep... Yes sir!!
I occasionally use an ATV when elk hunting. BUT I use it like it's a jeep I get to the trail head park it and start hunting. Since I bought a jeep that has a heater and will actually do WAY better in the snow than an ATV I don't find myself using ATV's hardly at all anymore.
The only advantage I see to an ATV over a jeep or a truck is that you don't beat up your jeep or truck by using them on really tough mountain roads. They are not to be used off of roads or designated ATV trails EVER PERIOD!!
If I need a vehicle to get my lazy butt back into the good stuff, it's a horse or my own two feet.
KodiakBeer
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The topography on Kodiak is pretty much vertical so I understand the desire to use an ATV to get onto a ridge network or into a high valley. I don't understand why anybody would then run around all day long in their selected hunting area clearing it of game.
unwise11
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When someone in front of you has a sling too loose and their muzzle swings you.
When some A#$es in a boat come along on the river not even hunting but chopping branches, making noise, and scareing everything away.
When someone pees too close to the blind, thinking deer won't smell it.
When some A#$es in a boat come along on the river not even hunting but chopping branches, making noise, and scareing everything away.
When someone pees too close to the blind, thinking deer won't smell it.
Armored farmer
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ATV's are a problem here. I think everyone has one. Some people barely have a roof over their heads, but manage to own a $10-12K side by side Ranger or Rhino or Razor and a cooler full of beer in the back. Then ride through my property during bow season.
(I still think you should be required to present a deed to 40 acres before you can buy one.)
....don't get me started.
(I still think you should be required to present a deed to 40 acres before you can buy one.)
....don't get me started.
Freedom_fighter_in_IL
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I've actually had bucks come up and make a scrape right where I let my morning coffee go
CoRoMo
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Backcountry backpack elk hunts
Don't bring more crap than you can pack and carry all by yourself. I'm not going to ask you to carry something of mine, don't ask me to carry something of yours. Don't lack anything that you are going to need. I'm not going to need anything that you plan to pack in, so don't ask to borrow any of the gear that I've decided to pack for myself. I've spent hard earned money and a lot of time narrowing down the items that I absolutely must pack in. When you threw EVERYTHING remotely hunting related that you own, into your truck and decided to pick through it at the trail-head, you also made it clear that you don't know what we are about to do. Your tent weighs eleven pounds and you think you need both sleeping bags because neither is rated below 30°. You're carrying canned food and a gallon of water when you should have bought dehydrated pasta and a water filter pump. You're bringing two boxes of ammo and three changes of clothes, but oh no, you don't have a single pot, pan, fork or spoon. My camp stove is the only one that seems to be making its way up the mountain, but the propane tank I'm carrying won't feed us all. I know that it will cook ME three meals a day for almost a week, but now that you're going to need it, we're screwed. Why did you pack a 3 lb. MagLite?!? That's how much your tent should weigh, not your flashlight. I only brought the least amount of sunblock that I thought I would need, why are you entitled to some of it? What do you mean you didn't bring a bar of soap?
:banghead: Geez Dad, we do this every year. Could you focus a bit more on preparation?
Don't bring more crap than you can pack and carry all by yourself. I'm not going to ask you to carry something of mine, don't ask me to carry something of yours. Don't lack anything that you are going to need. I'm not going to need anything that you plan to pack in, so don't ask to borrow any of the gear that I've decided to pack for myself. I've spent hard earned money and a lot of time narrowing down the items that I absolutely must pack in. When you threw EVERYTHING remotely hunting related that you own, into your truck and decided to pick through it at the trail-head, you also made it clear that you don't know what we are about to do. Your tent weighs eleven pounds and you think you need both sleeping bags because neither is rated below 30°. You're carrying canned food and a gallon of water when you should have bought dehydrated pasta and a water filter pump. You're bringing two boxes of ammo and three changes of clothes, but oh no, you don't have a single pot, pan, fork or spoon. My camp stove is the only one that seems to be making its way up the mountain, but the propane tank I'm carrying won't feed us all. I know that it will cook ME three meals a day for almost a week, but now that you're going to need it, we're screwed. Why did you pack a 3 lb. MagLite?!? That's how much your tent should weigh, not your flashlight. I only brought the least amount of sunblock that I thought I would need, why are you entitled to some of it? What do you mean you didn't bring a bar of soap?
:banghead: Geez Dad, we do this every year. Could you focus a bit more on preparation?
Mine actually comes from fishing type activities. What gets me the most is the jackwagon that speeds by in a boat really close to shore. Or someone not watching their kids and they decide chucking rocks in the water where I'm cast is a terrific idea. what REALLY, REALLY gets me red is the guy who casts over your line. Not once, not twice, but he keeps doing it. OR the guys that have to get right up next to you without even asking. 9/10 times I'm more than happy to let a guy get in on a good spot and try somethin I taint. But don't assume I wont throw your @$$ in the drink if you get close without so much as an introduction or pardon mister! 
CoastieShep
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Took a guy deer hunting with me a few years ago when I was stationed in Kodiak. He didn't even bring a knife or rope to tie his kill to the rack on his ATV. Didn't go with him again.
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H&H makes great points in his OP. Thankfully I haven't been exposed to much of that - although I do get pretty ornery about muzzle direction.
I hunt by myself almost exclusively now. It's for many small reasons and one big one. The small ones aren't really worth getting into. The big one is the awful obsession with "long range" shooting. I have lost count of the hunters I've seen in the field with the latest specialty cartridges and 14x, 16x, or 18x scopes. Almost to the man they are braggarts and liars, and almost to the man they are utterly incapable of hitting anything much beyond 200 yards. I don't mind the misses, but the gut shots and dangling legs - at distances far too great to allow follow-up - sicken me.
I hunt by myself almost exclusively now. It's for many small reasons and one big one. The small ones aren't really worth getting into. The big one is the awful obsession with "long range" shooting. I have lost count of the hunters I've seen in the field with the latest specialty cartridges and 14x, 16x, or 18x scopes. Almost to the man they are braggarts and liars, and almost to the man they are utterly incapable of hitting anything much beyond 200 yards. I don't mind the misses, but the gut shots and dangling legs - at distances far too great to allow follow-up - sicken me.
the guys that have to get right up next to you without even asking. 9/10 times I'm more than happy to let a guy get in on a good spot and try somethin I taint. But don't assume I wont throw your @$$ in the drink if you get close without so much as an introduction or pardon mister!
My dad and I would go down to Hatteras fishing about the butt crack of dawn.
We would drive down the beach a few miles from the closest beach entrance.
Look down the beach in either direction and it is empty for MILES!!!! Then about 2 hours after you get there some idiots decide to pull up next to you and go BOOGIE BOARDING right where you are casting.
A less high road person might just put an 8 ounce pyramid sinker upside their head...we usually just moved down a bit...
muzzle discipline will get me hot in a hurry, but thankfully ive only had to really let loose on one person. he was a younger guy, mid-teens, but in no way at all new to hunting. i guess he didnt really consider a loaded and capped muzzle loader "dangerous" enough to bother keeping it pointed away from my face. i figured the 4 previous polite requests/safety warnings were being WAY to friendly. he eventually realized the stupidity of his actions and has made some major improvements towards becoming a decent hunter i still hunt with him every deer season.
i think he secretly refers to me as a hard @$$ but he is soon to be family-in-law and hunting is a big part of all the guys in the family i will soon be joining. im really hoping that with a little bit of guidance he will grow up to be a safe and responsible hunter.
every year i find myself giving a few of the guys a hard time (not too bad. we know who our buddies are) because every year someone shows up with a gun that isnt sighted in even close, or that hasnt been shot since last season. one guy this year actually showed up with a borrowed gun and asked us how to load it!
as a group we convinced him that if he couldnt load it, he was going to have a hard time killing a deer with it (duh!) so he opted for a more framiliar weapon.
and i swear if i have to explain to one more person why a factory mounted scope or a bore-sighted gun is not "sighted in" i might just lose it!
i think he secretly refers to me as a hard @$$ but he is soon to be family-in-law and hunting is a big part of all the guys in the family i will soon be joining. im really hoping that with a little bit of guidance he will grow up to be a safe and responsible hunter.
every year i find myself giving a few of the guys a hard time (not too bad. we know who our buddies are) because every year someone shows up with a gun that isnt sighted in even close, or that hasnt been shot since last season. one guy this year actually showed up with a borrowed gun and asked us how to load it!
as a group we convinced him that if he couldnt load it, he was going to have a hard time killing a deer with it (duh!) so he opted for a more framiliar weapon.and i swear if i have to explain to one more person why a factory mounted scope or a bore-sighted gun is not "sighted in" i might just lose it!
bikerdoc
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I am on the far outside edge of a large family - read in-law. When I get my begrudging invite to go hunting on the family farm I leave if the idiot who walks the ground with his safety off is there.
I prefer to be alone on public land.
I prefer to be alone on public land.
lizziedog1
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Two More
!. Drunk hunters. Sure, a drink after the hunt around the campfire is fine. But alcohol and guns don't mix.
2. Litter bugs. Finding soda cans and spent shells drives me nuts. People then wonder why No Hunting signs are so common.
!. Drunk hunters. Sure, a drink after the hunt around the campfire is fine. But alcohol and guns don't mix.
2. Litter bugs. Finding soda cans and spent shells drives me nuts. People then wonder why No Hunting signs are so common.
IDriveB5
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H&H, I like your style. If I ever move out to Colorado, I would be honored to wrap your brand new truck around a tree.
Fortunately, I haven't had too many bad experiences with people in the field.
I mainly hunt one farm in Southern MD, owned by a friend's father. I have seen upwards of 60 deer in one day on this 200+ acre farm. The owner has specifically instructed me to take as many deer as possible, buck, doe anything brown. Using my climbing stand, I was hunting one of the back fields one afternoon when one of the other guys who has permission to hunt the land walked through the middle of the field (clearly seeing me in orange) and gets up in his ladder.
Fast forward to later that afternoon: I take a 6pt buck with my shotgun. Fudd gets down out of his stand, yelling and screaming about how I shouldn't have taken said deer that I should only mature bucks or does.
Fortunately, his access to the land ended when he told the owner that he "...wasn't taking no does as long as Safeway has meat on it's shelves..."
I took a beautiful doe in that same field New Year's Eve
Fortunately, I haven't had too many bad experiences with people in the field.
I mainly hunt one farm in Southern MD, owned by a friend's father. I have seen upwards of 60 deer in one day on this 200+ acre farm. The owner has specifically instructed me to take as many deer as possible, buck, doe anything brown. Using my climbing stand, I was hunting one of the back fields one afternoon when one of the other guys who has permission to hunt the land walked through the middle of the field (clearly seeing me in orange) and gets up in his ladder.
Fast forward to later that afternoon: I take a 6pt buck with my shotgun. Fudd gets down out of his stand, yelling and screaming about how I shouldn't have taken said deer that I should only mature bucks or does.
Fortunately, his access to the land ended when he told the owner that he "...wasn't taking no does as long as Safeway has meat on it's shelves..."
I took a beautiful doe in that same field New Year's Eve
griff383
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Im lucky and have access to private land both in MN and TX for deer and turkey. In MN I hunt with a good friend and his father who are both very responsible and ethical when it comes to deer hunting. When turkey hunting I usually go with my father-in-law and some of his boyhood hunting companions who are all safety nazis with a zero tolerance policy.
I have been very lucky in the safety department, no morons swinging muzzles around or drinking heavily at camp. There are however, the few lazy behinds, that sit all day while everyone drives the hills. I went one year with the in-law just to help drive and drag deer. Couldnt believe that one father and son sat and did nothing all day. During lunch at the truck, which they missed because they didnt want to move from their "spot", I heard of all the stories of them walking in shots from their pumpkin throwers on deer 100+ yards away. Just ridiculous.
I get the "you use that for deer? you loose velocity and accuracy with that short of a barrel" response all the time. I purpose built an AR10 for where I hunt in MN. Its a .308, 16" barrel, with a 2-7x scope. I have yet to see a deer, much less have a shot, at one past 100 yards (where I hunt) and even then its not a clear shot with all the brush and hardwoods between us. Besides that every deer I saw this year was 50 yards or closer so accuracy past 100 yards with THAT rifle is of no concern to me. So yes, I use that for deer and I will shoot sub moa groups, off hand, at 100 yards all day long, its called practice.
I have been very lucky in the safety department, no morons swinging muzzles around or drinking heavily at camp. There are however, the few lazy behinds, that sit all day while everyone drives the hills. I went one year with the in-law just to help drive and drag deer. Couldnt believe that one father and son sat and did nothing all day. During lunch at the truck, which they missed because they didnt want to move from their "spot", I heard of all the stories of them walking in shots from their pumpkin throwers on deer 100+ yards away. Just ridiculous.
I get the "you use that for deer? you loose velocity and accuracy with that short of a barrel" response all the time. I purpose built an AR10 for where I hunt in MN. Its a .308, 16" barrel, with a 2-7x scope. I have yet to see a deer, much less have a shot, at one past 100 yards (where I hunt) and even then its not a clear shot with all the brush and hardwoods between us. Besides that every deer I saw this year was 50 yards or closer so accuracy past 100 yards with THAT rifle is of no concern to me. So yes, I use that for deer and I will shoot sub moa groups, off hand, at 100 yards all day long, its called practice.
Bagpipe is one word.
I used my ATV in Nov on our Elk hunt, but only to cut down on the hike from camp to the area we were hunting. And the few days I hunted straight out of camp I did not find the hike to be all that bad. I guess we really had them around to help haul back the quartered of Elk we never shot...
swampboss
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How about when you invite someone to hunt and they bring a buddy or two without asking. grrrr
# 1 Broadcasting to anyone who will listen where you went hunting. This one loses your invitation immediately.
#2 Advising on how to pack and handle horses. Our last horse wreck was in 1993.
We've packed a few thousand miles since, day and night, winter and summer, on trail and off in some of the roughest country in the lower 48. I don't require advice and I don't want any.
#3 Expecting to be waited on in camp.
#4 Camping 20 miles from the nearest road and another party sets
up a tent 50 yds away when there is no one else within 5 miles.
#5 And everything everyone else has already mentioned.
#2 Advising on how to pack and handle horses. Our last horse wreck was in 1993.
We've packed a few thousand miles since, day and night, winter and summer, on trail and off in some of the roughest country in the lower 48. I don't require advice and I don't want any.
#3 Expecting to be waited on in camp.
#4 Camping 20 miles from the nearest road and another party sets
up a tent 50 yds away when there is no one else within 5 miles.
#5 And everything everyone else has already mentioned.
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Normally I don't read too much of a post with a rant. This post is spot on in some of my experience.
I have gotten really picky about who I get involved with if water is involved. That could be fishing or duck hunting. Even trawling. I'm not looking to drown or die of hypothermia or sunstroke.
I don't hunt much any more, but this thread brought back some memories. Some of the stuff wasn't prevailant 20-30 year ago.
Once I was with a guy and we had a helicopter come near and check us out. The guy starts acting like he is shooting at the helo. Needless to say I didn't think that was too good an idea.
The other was a guy who had access to his "uncle's" land. That almost ended in a bad way.
Lucky for me my parent were alway on my case about who I hung out with, birds of a feather and that sort of thing.
The older I get the quicker I spot warning signs.
You guys be safe.
I have gotten really picky about who I get involved with if water is involved. That could be fishing or duck hunting. Even trawling. I'm not looking to drown or die of hypothermia or sunstroke.
I don't hunt much any more, but this thread brought back some memories. Some of the stuff wasn't prevailant 20-30 year ago.
Once I was with a guy and we had a helicopter come near and check us out. The guy starts acting like he is shooting at the helo. Needless to say I didn't think that was too good an idea.
The other was a guy who had access to his "uncle's" land. That almost ended in a bad way.
Lucky for me my parent were alway on my case about who I hung out with, birds of a feather and that sort of thing.
The older I get the quicker I spot warning signs.
You guys be safe.
22-rimfire
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Same experience here. I have also notice no ill effects with smoking. Sometimes I think the smell even attracts deer. Not sure however.... I can tell you that I have shot a number of whitetail bucks when I took a break and lit up my pipe.
Another beef is... Do not scope other hunters EVER. Buy binoculars and get used to using them.
If you are hunting on public land and somebody is very close to your chosen spot, don't move 50 yds away and sit down thinking it's okay. Get up earlier the next time and be there FIRST.
If someone offers to take you hunting, at least offer to pay for gas.
Leave gates the way you find them. Don't climb over barb wire fences, crawl under them unless they are low enough to straddle.
Someone mentioned fishing... okay. Do not cast or walk close to a pool that someone else is already fishing in (trout fishing) unless it is opening day and there are people all over the place.
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brandon_mcg
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people who shot winged doves on the ground.
got invited to a hunt saw two guys shoot birds. they walk over to pick them up...the birds start to flutter a little and they shoot the dang bird on the ground!!
there are at least 15 people at this shoot. i pick up my stuff and walk to the truck. one of the guys doing the moronic shooting runs over to ask me if everything is alright. i explain to him that i dont like hunting with people who dont follow the simple rules of muzzle control.
going duck hunting with someone who has a lab that likes to swim more than retrieve is also quite irritating.
got invited to a hunt saw two guys shoot birds. they walk over to pick them up...the birds start to flutter a little and they shoot the dang bird on the ground!!
there are at least 15 people at this shoot. i pick up my stuff and walk to the truck. one of the guys doing the moronic shooting runs over to ask me if everything is alright. i explain to him that i dont like hunting with people who dont follow the simple rules of muzzle control.
going duck hunting with someone who has a lab that likes to swim more than retrieve is also quite irritating.
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