Most RELIABLE 9mm handgun?

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trackskippy said:
If you shoot any of them enough, sooner or later, youre going to have a stoppage. In fact, the more you shoot them, the more likely it will happen. If you dont maintain them and clean them regularly, count on it happening sooner.
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Yeppers, I agree. Both my older Sig M11-A1 and my newest 9mm, my Glock 19 Gen 5 have been 100% reliable - no stoppages of any kind, period. But I doubt I've put 2,500 rounds through both of those pistols put together, and neither of them has gone more than a couple of hundred rounds between clean and lube jobs.;)
 
The H&K P30 was tested with over 96000 rounds B4 a failure, Plus easy to field strip and keep running smooth. Simple truth with todays mfg methods there exists many fine firearms out there, choice is personal and subjective as criteria, location, usage and other factors must be part of the final decision. On this forum you will get everyones opinions along with some facts. There are easier and smarter ways to look for your answer. Good luck
 
I am a CZ fan but as more of a "type" for reliability, I always liked the second strike option that SA/DA pistols offer. One more smack at a primer in case of a light strike or whatever. Has worked for me in the past. I think someone made a striker fired that was capable of a second strike without a slice rack but that is definitely not the norm from what I have seen.
 
Mostly my experience is based on usage of: Beretta 92FS, CZ 75B & 85Combat, BHP and lastly Glock 17.
I would use any of them anytime with no hesitation.
 
HollowDawg said:
I am a CZ fan but as more of a "type" for reliability, I always liked the second strike option that SA/DA pistols offer. One more smack at a primer in case of a light strike or whatever. Has worked for me in the past. I think someone made a striker fired that was capable of a second strike without a slice rack but that is definitely not the norm from what I have seen.
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Hollow- What does this mean? On a CZ75B you pull the trigger and no boom, and then what? Thanks for info and feedback.
 
HollowDawg said:
I think someone made a striker fired that was capable of a second strike without a slice rack but that is definitely not the norm from what I have seen.
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If we are just talking strikers, the Walther P99 offers second strike due to its DA/SA trigger system.

Most people when talking about strikers refer more to the consistent, partially or fully cocked trigger over the actual ignition parts though, so it does get confusing.
 
JR24: I’ve mentioned several times on THR and TheFiringLine that my Walther P99 AS is a striker-fired gun, but the first shot can be decocked into Double Action, as can any following shot.

Or the gun can operated in SA only - which is the 'default' when the slide is racked .

I doubt that most readers understand that this gun is a striker, DA/SA, or can be just SA. It might look confusing.

Walther P99 AS Pistol Review - YouTube
Sootch shows us the 'Second strike' at 4:00. >> After the striker has already operated but the round does Not fire......, if the slide then is Not racked, release the trigger...it is now in the DA mode for a second strike.

—-The typical decocking, for a racked slide/chambered round, from SA into DA (for use as a DA/SA carry gun, instead of just SA) is at 4:27.

Does any of this help anybody? Please watch the video link. My explanation might need some help.
 
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Maybe anal but I keep a excel spreadsheet on all my guns. Round counts, failures, parts replacement intervals, etc. I have the best 1911's that money can buy now.
 
Reliability comes from many things. Design of the weapon is of course number 1, along with the quality of workmanship in it's build. However, the things that go with it like magazines, and ammunition also count into that factor. Sure there are guns that are just more reliable than others. I have 3 VERY reliable 9mm hand guns. 2 Glocks (19, 45) and a 1911 (Dan Wesson Guardian). All are designed, and built well.

I did, take note of the statement about wanting a gun that can be reliable with "most any kind of ammo, including reloaded ammo". This is (or could be) a problem in my book. Having quality ammunition, is akin to having quality magazines. It's also part of the reliability equation. Depending on who did the reloading, and how they did it... crappy reloads can make ANY gun **** the bed. Of course, reloaded ammo, done right, shouldn't be a problem in anything. If you want to fire hand loaded ammo, and a lot of people do, that's fine, but if you think that a reliable gun will somehow make up for crappy ammo... it won't. Weather it's loaded at the factory, or at home, it still has to be loaded right for the gun to be reliable.
 
People talk about second strike ability like it is a big deal. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. If in a life or death situation & a round doesn't fire I would think it better to get that round out & another one in than to stand there & keep pulling the trigger.
 
Mike J said:
People talk about second strike ability like it is a big deal. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. If in a life or death situation & a round doesn't fire I would think it better to get that round out & another one in than to stand there & keep pulling the trigger.
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It gives you an option.

If it's your last round, giving it try at a second strike beats ejecting it out of the gun and onto the ground leaving you with a club.
 
Mike J said:
People talk about second strike ability like it is a big deal. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. If in a life or death situation & a round doesn't fire I would think it better to get that round out & another one in than to stand there & keep pulling the trigger.
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Smith & Wesson used to teach this.

I think it's a natural reaction to "try again" but
logic says get rid of the dud/misfire.

In that, the revolver comes into its own.
Dud/misfire and you reactively go to
the next chamber.

Ernest Langdon has videos on the
different Beretta hammer springs with
cautions to use the heavier springs
for duty/SD. And while Jerry Miculek
does or used to sell lighter springs
for revolvers, he always cautioned to
use the factory springs for duty/SD.
 
I think the second strike thing is a bad mentality/habit to get into. Youre wasting time fooling with something that 99.9% of the time, will not fire on the second strike. Youre response should be well practiced and instant TRB and continue on.

The biggest advantage to a second strike capability is, it allows you to more easily dryfire and work on and maintain the necessary muscle tone and familiarity needed for that important first DA pull.
 
trackskippy said:
I think the second strike thing is a bad mentality/habit to get into. Youre wasting time fooling with something that 99.9% of the time, will not fire on the second strike. Youre response should be well practiced and instant TRB and continue on.

The biggest advantage to a second strike capability is, it allows you to more easily dryfire and work on and maintain the necessary muscle tone and familiarity needed for that important first DA pull.
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I would agree with this.
 
As for the OP's question I believe most pistols made by a major manufacturer are extremely reliable. It is always possible to get a bad example of any model (lemon). That as well as familiarization is why it is important to shoot it to make sure everything works.
As someone else said a semi-auto pistol is a system. You can have an extremely well made pistol & if you use bad magazines or ammunition it will not work.
 
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