Most RELIABLE 9mm handgun?

[UncleEd]

WOW! Five pages, and the "undisputed winner is"................................the P08 Luger.

Blabber mouth, now the prices will so up further.

 

[chicharrones]

People talk about second strike ability like it is a big deal. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. If in a life or death situation & a round doesn't fire I would think it better to get that round out & another one in than to stand there & keep pulling the trigger.

It could be a usable feature for the off chance you have one hand occupied or injured (due to whatever imaginable reason) in a self defense scenario. Not that all my guns have double strike capability, but many of them do.

 

[RA40]

The second strike reminds me of the IMI Sampson primers encountered on a batch of their 38 SPL rounds maybe 25 years back. They were quite hard so on a few they would ignite on the second hit. I've not encountered that with any other .38 SPL, .357, 9mm or 45 ACP. I've had maybe 3-5 duds in many 10K rounds of factory 9mm that if it didn't go, it was ejected. (I shoot more 9mm than 45 by about 3:1 and the wheel guns even less.)

Among my small sampling I cannot say one for another.

 

[tercel89]

Would like your thoughts on the most reliable 9mm semi-auto hand gun. Please leave out accuracy, weight, concealed carry ability, beauty, and price. Do not include what is completely unavailable ie; not made for over 50 years.

I am searching for a semi-auto 9mm that will go boom when you pull the trigger with most any kind of ammo, including reloaded ammo. Number two in importance would be durability.

Glock 17 and Beretta 92FS

 

[Zaydok Allen]

My HK VP9 has never failed to fire or cycle.

 

[JR24]

People talk about second strike ability like it is a big deal. I don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. If in a life or death situation & a round doesn't fire I would think it better to get that round out & another one in than to stand there & keep pulling the trigger.

I agree, TRB is so ingrained in my training and mindset it's hard to think of a time when I'd even try a second strike, but I guess it's not a bad thing to have in the toolbox just in case.

Not a priority for me, though my current EDC does have that option as it stands.

It could be a usable feature for the off chance you have one hand occupied or injured (due to whatever imaginable reason) in a self defense scenario. Not that all my guns have double strike capability, but many of them do.

A good thought. Another good reason to practice one and off hand clearance drills as well. Most of the time I've found if I have a round fail to go bang, a second strike from the same gun doesn't do it either.

I have had a few that were good looking dimples from Glocks pop off with a hammer gun, but those same rounds failed to go on a second Glock strike. Never had a round that failed to shoot in my 1911s go off on a second strike from anything.

 

[md7]

My personal favorite is the CZ-75B. But, I think such a question is better served with a list of the top ones due to so much personal opinion being involved. A list would probably look something like this, as one of my criteria would be a proven track record...

Glock 17/19
Sig P226
CZ-75 (I'd actually take the SP-01 variant over the "classic" design)
Beretta 92
M&P 9.

Solid list.

 

[Tallball]

Glock 17/19
Sig P226
CZ-75 (I'd actually take the SP-01 variant over the "classic" design)
Beretta 92
M&P 9

I have all of those, and agree about all of them.

From my own personal experiences, I would add a few more classics:

Browning Hi Power
1911
Ruger P series
S&W Gen III

 

[HollowDawg]

Hollow- What does this mean? On a CZ75B you pull the trigger and no boom, and then what? Thanks for info and feedback.

With a CZ 75B pistol, without cocking the external hammer, the first trigger pull is a long Double Action trigger pull. Subsequent shots are shorter and light pull Single Action. If at any point "no boom", hammer is in down position and a long Double Action pull is possible for a second hammer fall on the cartridge that didn't fire on the first hammer strike. Most striker fired pistols require racking the slide to reset the striker(which also ejects failed unfired round). Valid argument to be made as to whether it is best in a tactical situation to rack the slide on a failure to fire rather than a second trigger pull on a DA/SA pistol. Trigger pull is faster in my opinion but not if the cartridge fails to fire a second time. Most(all) of my shooting is recreational/target/range. I like the second strike option there. My carry is a striker fired so I know how to clear the weapon quickly in a fail to fire situation. At the range, I think most people are gonna feed a failed cartridge back thru their striker fired pistol anyway since ammo now is apparently cast in gold per the prices! Comes down to personal preference.

 

[JR24]

Most(all) of my shooting is recreational/target/range. I like the second strike option there. My carry is a striker fired so I know how to clear the weapon quickly in a fail to fire situation. At the range, I think most people are gonna feed a failed cartridge back thru their striker fired pistol anyway since ammo now is apparently cast in gold per the prices! Comes down to personal preference.

I've yet to have a bad primer, factory or handload go off on a second strike from a hammer fired gun that failed on the first pull.

I've had a number that failed on strikers, even on a second strike, that popped just fine in a Sig Hammer fired or 1911.

 

[Zack856]

Had a kel-tec p-11 that refused to jam. Prefer a ramped 1911 though. That will run exactly as good as I tune it to run.

 

[d2wing]

H&K USP9 Torture tested for I don't recall how many rounds, most likely the most reliable handgun made, but any H&K is going to be top notch.

 

[Rexster]

I have experienced 100% reliability with: two samples of the original HK P7, an S&W 3913*, an S&W 3953, a Glock 17 Gen3, a Glock 17 Gen4, and two samples of the Glock 19 Gen4.

I experienced 100% reliability with a Kahr K9, until it encountered Cor-Bon 115-grain JHP +P, which, for whatever reason, resulted in some failures to feed. My wife’s Kahr K9 has benever malfunctioned.

My Uzi Carbine, original version, which can be seen as a glorified pistol, was 100% reliable.

I have some recently-added 9mm Glock and pre-owned 3rd-Generation S&W pistols, which have yet to be fully vetted.

Good reliability seems to be the norm with well-made 9mm pistols. The time frame, for my experiences, was early Eighties, to the present day.

*One obviously over-pressure cartridge resulted in a case stuck in the chamber, which I cannot blame on the pistol. Technically, this was one failure to extract, but I had to drive the case out, with a metal rod and a mallet. It was a STUCK case, with a flattened primer. Other spent cases, from the same box of ammo, also had flattened primers. I cannot fault the pistol, so factored-out this one.

 

[bassjam]

Practically ANY full sized handgun from S&W, Springfield, Ruger, Glock, HK, SIG, Beretta, FN, CZ, and Walther should be within a small fraction of a percentage of each other in terms of reliability. There's specific models from Taurus and Keltec that have a reputation for being pretty good as well. Even more so if you aren't using it in combat and it's just a nightstand or conceal carry firearm. But there's always flukes with any firearm. I had a Glock 23 that locked up on me 3 times within 1500 rounds, I have rimfire semi-auto's like my Buckmark that are more reliable than that. On the flip side I have a Hi Point I picked up used that's been so flawless I trust it to protect me in my garage.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I'm thinking 20 days and 140 post are enough for this thread...lets move on to another subject