Motorized Case Trimmer

[horsemen61]

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[Dog Soldier]

I have been using the Lyman for the past 2 years. It is a good trimmer. It has a powerful motor. It seems Lyman has dropped it from their catalog?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lyman-Power...071172?hash=item3f741e20c4:g:AuoAAOSwEzxYa9EB

 

[dgod]

Ok, Just took pictures. #1 id the adapter that replaces the handle that is turned.


Picture 2 is the Trimmer with adaptor, and Drill attached (Notice the Deluxe Trim Head) Trim to size and Chamfer at the same time


Opps, Camera is upside down...

Last, 4 cases, Trimmed, Chamfered in less that 10 second includes handling


The Trimmer Works, and it works faster with the attachment and a drill..

Good Luck

 

[DRAINSMITH]

I shouldn't jump in the middle of this, but....if someone offered me $100 for something that sucked, I'd be all over it

Now boys and girls this is why I have 4 Hornady Ammo Plants set up on my bench. I have also bought and sold at least 20. I pay $150.00 for press and $100.00 for case feeder or bullet feeder.
In this world there are three different types of people 25% are doers 25% are can't doers 50% are won't doers. After talking 5 min. I can tell where a person falls.
The wont doers I just make my offer. Some sell and some don't. I don't care one way or the other.
Now the can't doers I try and walk them threw it turning them into doers.
Now the doers just need a little help,and most end up liking the Hornady.

 

[jmorris]

I shouldn't jump in the middle of this, but....if someone offered me $100 for something that sucked, I'd be all over it

Wouldn't be a good financial move, if it had more value to others.

Kind of like people who have animals that leave poop everywhere and wish someone would just haul it off for free. Then they figure out people are taking the "stuff" and putting it in a bag with an "organic fertilizer" label and selling it at a premium price. All of a sudden that crap is worth something.

That said, I'd spend $150 on another LNL.

 

[Doublehelix]

I use the Giraud Tri-Way Trimmer chucked onto a buffer (grinder) motor mounted so I can run it vertically:

 

[silicosys4]

Now boys and girls this is why I have 4 Hornady Ammo Plants set up on my bench. I have also bought and sold at least 20. I pay $150.00 for press and $100.00 for case feeder or bullet feeder.
In this world there are three different types of people 25% are doers 25% are can't doers 50% are won't doers. After talking 5 min. I can tell where a person falls.
The wont doers I just make my offer. Some sell and some don't. I don't care one way or the other.
Now the can't doers I try and walk them threw it turning them into doers.
Now the doers just need a little help,and most end up liking the Hornady.

Lol, whatever buddy. Hey, I'm glad it works for you. Since you are such a fanboi I'll sell you mine, gladly, but not for $100. Get real.

When it comes to tools that are overly expensive, perform poorly, and are designed poorly, you are right. I'm not going to bang my head against that wall. Its a better use of my time to seek other options. That way I can "doer" more reloading.
I've read the reviews and threads posted by others experiencing the same problems. I know my problems are more common than fanboi's would like to admit.

Have fun trimming those cases, I don't know about you but it takes me about an hour per 1k cases on the Dillon, and I KNOW you aren't getting anywhere near that on the Hornady.
Maybe that's how you prefer to "doer" your time, But i'm not into banging my head against a shoddy tool in an attempt to prove something. My time is more valuable than that.
I'd rather be "doer-ing" something else for hours other than raising blisters.

Yea, the plastic gears...they work so well that Hornady had to replace all of mine as well as the cutter spindle.

Its just a poorly thought out tool that has been outdone in spades by other manufacturers at a lower price point with a higher level of quality and design.
Even when working perfectly It costs more, is less precise, slower, more poorly engineered and manufactured, and does nothing better than any of its competitors.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Lol, whatever buddy. Hey, I'm glad it works for you. Since you are such a fanboi I'll sell you mine, gladly, but not for $100. Get real.

When it comes to tools that are overly expensive, perform poorly, and are designed poorly, you are right. I'm not going to bang my head against that wall. Its a better use of my time to seek other options. That way I can "doer" more reloading.
I've read the reviews and threads posted by others experiencing the same problems. I know my problems are more common than fanboi's would like to admit.

Have fun trimming those cases, I don't know about you but it takes me about an hour per 1k cases on the Dillon, and I KNOW you aren't getting anywhere near that on the Hornady.
Maybe that's how you prefer to "doer" your time, But i'm not into banging my head against a shoddy tool in an attempt to prove something. My time is more valuable than that.
I'd rather be "doer-ing" something else for hours other than raising blisters.

Yea, the plastic gears...they work so well that Hornady had to replace all of mine as well as the cutter spindle.

Its just a poorly thought out tool that has been outdone in spades by other manufacturers at a lower price point with a higher level of quality and design.
Even when working perfectly It costs more, is less precise, slower, more poorly engineered and manufactured, and does nothing better than any of its competitors.

O.K. I will answer you post in two parts and one statement.
1. cases per hour.
2. plastic gears and cutter spindle.
1. I can do about 100 cases an hour. But sense I reload with my 5 year old grandson, every minute with him is a blessing to me, and it will be a fond memory for him when I am gone.
Your time is more valuable to you doing other things, for the little time I have left mine couldn't be spent any better.
2. Maybe your gears and cutter spindle went bad is because you tried to do 1000 an hour. To much pressure on the handle?
O.K. I was serious on the $100.00. Any one out there want to offer him more? I mean he did such a fine sell job on it!
Now if you noticed I never said one bad thing about any other brand, and you never will. I guess I remember what my Momma told me "If you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all"

 

[clearcut]

I realy like the RCBS power trimmer ,with the right cutter head it will cut length and inside and out side.

CC

 

[dgod]

Amen, I've had my RCBS Trimmer since early/mid 80's, added the Deluxe Trim Head, and am pleased with it. As said above, I agree, if you look at the Opening Post... Poster was looking for help with his RCBS Case Trimmer. If he had owned another Brand, or different type, I would not have commented at all.

As was said earlier, I am an Elder Citizen, enjoy time with my Grandson, who helps me reload (He's 8), he can do everything except charge cases with powder. I use a Single stage, I have learned that Speed it not everything, there will always be people that want you to know their stuff is better than yours, I have had mine a long time, I like it. If I was in a position to go out and buy the ****-Hot equipment, I would, but I don't so I will continue using and defending my equipment.

Thanks CC, I agree with you Drainsmith,

 

[RainDodger]

I COMPLETELY agree with the guys who say the big Hornady case prep machine sucks! I have one and the only thing I use it for now are the de-burr and chamfer tools, and even they run too slowly. I would never use the case trimmer portion of it again. In my mind, it's a waste of vertical space. Far too slow and as someone said, the cutters turn too slowly. I would have returned it long ago, but it was a gift and it needs to stay visible for the wife, if you guys get my meaning.

I have both a WFT (early version) and a Trim-It. I find the WFT a pain to adjust quickly, but their new models have fixed that. The Trim-It is absolutely fantastic. I have mine on a flex shaft run from my drill press. I have it clamped in a horizontal position where I can sit in front of it and trim huge batches of cases at a time. Works great. Adjusts quickly. Definitely worth the money.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Tango Yankee dgod. Only use old geezers Know the importance of "grandkid time"

 

[Kaldor]

I use a WTF2. Being able to pop in a different trim chamber or whatever they call it to change calibers saves me money. One trimmer for many different calibers.

 

[JO JO]

I have no grand kids yet but I enjoy every minute with my son and daughter , the thing is some find reloading a chore to do so they can shoot more and some find reloading a relaxing hobby, what is the saying
1. Reload to shoot or
2. Shoot to reload
I am closer to #2 most of the time and when I take my kids shooting I do not shoot much mostly enjoy teaching and helping them shoot I agree with Drainsmith , reminds me of taking them out fishing and
teaching them to cast spent the bulk of time untangling the rat nest on the line in the reel best of times and and still doing this for the older one, me I have no need to load at a 500 case hour I slow down and my reloads always go bang and hit my mark I feel being in a rush can result I a O CRAP moment at the range sorry for getting of topic

 

[Nature Boy]

Now the doers just need a little help,and most end up liking the Hornady.

There's no doubt that Drainsmith drinks deeply from the red kool-aid pitcher

 

[InfoLoader]

FRANKFORD ARSENAL Makes motorized trimmer with collets to keep case tight
It indexes off the shoulder with different shoulder collets as well. The cutter doest have a pilot but frankford says it doent need on but some guysnare changing out the factory cutter for onevfrom an ordinary manual trimmer head cutter lije the onesbon rcbs trim pro manual one. You just unscrew it and thread it in to frankford (obviously its just preference and doesn't have to be changed ) but also i ordered a rcbs trim pro carbide cutter head to thread in and love it. So now it has a cutter with a pilot to center itbeven getter.
Also cones with three other motorized places to attach things as a prep station.it comes with some things like debur chamf ect.
One thing i bought separate was rcbs version of sm and lg military crimp remover.because i lije their mod 2 version.
Frankford also sales a kit for $ 29.99 that has sm, lg uniformer, sm lg military crimp remover and some other attavhments if you want their version.

 

[InfoLoader]

I forgot to add that it can cut just about any case with several diff size collets to choose from that come with it.
I picked mine up for about 135 dollars.
It does run a little slower rpm than using it on a high speed drill or drill press but technically lower rpm is better for metal cutying heads anyway.
Def beats manually trimming and no need to buy additional adaptors for different case calibers.

 

[InfoLoader]

Worth noting i did read somewhere that reamers are recomended if reloading softer brass like factory (non nato) brass that is still made for 7.62x51 not 308 .
I guess federal uses fc brass for nato spec 7.62x51 like american eagle 168 otm m1a on the box. This brass even though its 7.62x51 is a softer factory brass so if swaged with lets say...a dillon swager or rcbs swager, one could see signs of early primer pocket expansion to the point that primers may fit too loose and render brass useless.
But if reamed or cut/ slowly grinded away it doesnt seem to affect the whole primer pocket as much on subsequent reloads only on that type of particular brass.
Mil spec nato brass cases are of a harder brass which actually can withstand to be swaged which actually press forms the primer pockets rim to alleviate primer seating issues when seating

 

[JimKirk]

technically lower rpm is better for metal cutting heads anyway.

Higher cutter speeds give much better cuts in brass than slow speed ... but in this case slower may be more suited to the user ... rather than the metal being cut ...

 

[Chuck R.]

I use 3 methods depending on quantity/precision:

1. Forster in manual mode
2. Forster with power adapter run with rechargeable drill
3. Trim-It II chucked up in a drill press (High volume .223/5.56)

Chuck