Move from CA to Oregon--still celebrating

[Guy B. Meredith]

I feel for you in Illinois and other equally over regulated states. I am not suggesting California is the worst case--yet--just that they have more than enough arbitrary laws. As Dan says it works for many people as it stands right now. Just limits his options to expand interests. I am just through dealing with elitist politicians who think they know what is best for everyone in matters where they are ignorant.

However, carry in metro areas of California is very limited. Issuing of concealed carry permits is under arbitrary control of local sheriffs and many of the more populated areas do not issue. This left the ridiculous option of empty open carry--great way to become a target. Now it looks like the open empty carry will be limited to long arms.

 

[Twiki357]

I'll cry a tear for you guys.
Happy New Year from the free (Brady rated ZERO) state of Arizona.

 

[Dnaltrop]

Happy New Year, Neighbor. Glad the "adjustment" wasn't painful

And yes, the Anti-california thing goes back Decades. Tom McCall- Welcome to Oregon, but please don't stay ( paraphrased)

The usual argument you get from deeply-rooted locals is "I couldn't afford to buy the house I grew up in today" because inflated values on homes sold down south allowed transplants to drive up real estate higher than local wages at an astronomical speed.

My Folk's house in 1976... $34,000. Today they could realistically see 650-800k or more. GREAT for them... But If I wanted to live anywhere near my old digs, I'd be in the 500k+ range minimum. I'm lucky to have a house on the outskirts but not in a High-crime area.

The other thing that drives us nuts are transplants who move up here then try to change everything to match what they left down south, and comment constantly on how great things were back there... Why'd Ya leave, and why are you trying to re-create it here???

Thank god enough of them house hunt at the beginning of summer... It's like a trap-door spider, everything looks great then **BANG**... the 9 months of grey overcast drives a good portion of them back south

Oddly enough, I never hear a Gun owning transplant saying ANYTHING fond about California... Save for In-n-Out. We have Burgerville though.. and Five guys moving in

As a child of a family who has been here since the mid 1800's (not even counting the ship captains out of Astoria) I officially welcome any further firearm-refugees to the land of sanity.

PS- Married a California transplant myself... But she's been here since age 4, better at hiding it

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

Thanks. My father was born in Dillard and some of the family is still in the Medford and Eugene areas. I found out there are some distant cousins, too, that I didn't know. I intend to look them up.

My wife and I have been scoping out all parts of Oregon and some of Washington for a few years, but I'd never brought the guns along. On one of our early visits I dropped into a gun shop on the edge of downtown Salem and casually asked about purchase. When he said there was not a waiting period and all that chalked up a big gold star on my list, but I was not aware of the total picture. Of course it has changed as California has increased their nanny provisions.

I have seen a message from an SF expat inviting her friends to join her in Portland and make it a new SF. Turned my stomach as one SF is enough. If I move to a new location I figure I become part of the preexisting community rather than being arrogant and telling the locals how is should be.

I am very sensitive to the disruption of the local economies by Californians. In our case the economic timing was bad. I was laid off and decided to go to retirement, we sold the house before it went under but came out with zilch so we are operating on a level with the local Oregon economy.

 

[Nushif]

I am very sensitive to the disruption of the local economies by Californians. In our case the economic timing was bad. I was laid off and decided to go to retirement, we sold the house before it went under but came out with zilch so we are operating on a level with the local Oregon economy.

This is coming from one of the un/underemployed OR types ... Thank you for even aknowledging it exists.

 

[BP44]

Welcome to the Greatest state out west All of the transplant talk I would have to agree with. I am happy for your new found freedom

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

Yeah. I became aware of what goes on outside my California bubble when I stayed in Oklahoma for a while twenty years ago.

 

[Kjay]

I'll be joining the ranks of former Californians escaping to Oregon this year. Left Portland 26 years ago in order to provide for the family but can now retire and come back. Looking forward to the rain!

 

[rromeo]

California wouldn't be so bad if everybody from the east coast didn't keep moving in.

 

[mwsenoj]

If it weren't for my great family, loyal friends, close knit church, dream job, and country ranch with a 400 yd range and backstop I would move to Arizona
I am still bitter at my 10rd Glock mags tho D:

 

[mdi]

Actually CA would be a pretty good place to live except for the tumors that are poisoning the whole state (L.A., Bay Area, Sac., mebbe San Diego too). My original plans were to move to N. CA, Fortuna area, but after the last election, I just kept looking north...

Not just an out-of-state complainer. Born and raised in L.A. County. Grew up in So. Central L.A. Worked for the City of Los Angeles for 25+ years. I know the good and the bad about the state. I'd like to see the State of Jefferson movement come up again, I'd vote for it.

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

I could really go for Morro Bay/San Luis Obispo after spending time there at the International Revolver Championship and some personal holidays. Can't afford it, though, and still have the SF influence and silly gun laws.

Hogue sponsors a great action shooting range at the Sportsmen's range just north of SLO.

 

[bergmen]

You guys are something else. For all your bitching and moaning about how bad things are/were in California, at least you had SOME form of carry that some of you were able to use. Compare that to those of us stuck here in the heartland where we have an entire state as crooked as "mdi's" description of L.A. and we STILL can't carry!

Here is what a California CCW license looks like (I've rubbed out the numbers, my last name and address):

Our Sheriff (Tom Allman) thanks us for having a license each time he sees us. He always asks if we are carrying at the moment and scolds us if we are not.

Gotta love it.

Dan

 

[Jeff F]

However, the icing on the cake for me was the OJ incident. When they failed to convict a guilty man I could not believe my eyes and ears. And when I talked to people from CA about it I realized that is no place I ever want to live.

Well we got the Juice over here in Lovelock and he ain't getting out any time soon, so at least theres partial justice.

I to am a California eject, same boat just to a different state. Nevada is pretty gun friendly and I'm proud to live here.

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

Dan,

I would love to have traded sheriffs with Mendocino County when I lived in Contra Costra county. There are a number of counties that amount to "shall issue", but most are in the rural areas--probably where they are least needed.

I was looking for a photo of the Marion County (Salem) permit but cannot find one. The application does not ask the number or kinds of firearms. I'll have to go ahead and get a permit to see what it's all about.

Another interesting item is that with the permit there are almost no restrictions on transportation. Carry of loaded firearms in plain sight in a vehicle is legal for everyone other than in some cities that have their own regs, but the CHL over rides all local regulations.

 

[Mauser lover]

ApacheCoTodd,

Movie???? I am not sure what you are talking about....