moving from FL to NC

[nccavediver]

Hi all,

In an effort for some quick info I am posting to ask those folks who live or have lived in North Carolina some basic gunny questions. I am moving from Florida to North Carolina. I have my FL CWP and enjoy the FL laws which are nice and gunny. I know these laws are on the books but I wanted to discuss it here. Is there anyone who also recently moved from FL to NC and looked for info?

Here in FL if someone breaks into your house and you feel your life is in danger you can shoot...you don't have to flee until you are cornered until you can shoot. Is this the same in NC?

In FL you can take your weapon into a restaurant that serves alcohol, so long as you stay in the dining area. You can also drink! Now I really doubt this one will be the same, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway to see what you folks say.

Also, if pulled over by law enforcement in NC, must I declare that I have a weapon?

Are there any weird law(s) that I should be aware of in NC that I wouldn't expect? ... Or is there anything that you would advise that I am missing?

Just looking to start some conversation about my move to a new state...

diver

 

[cuervo]

AFAIK, NC does not have a specific castle doctrine law, but you are not required to retreat, either.

No carry in any establishment with on-site alcohol drinking. It wouldn't matter if the restaurant were separate from the bar.

You are required to notify the LEO you have a CCW, regardless of whether you're actually carrying at the time or not.

Lots of places you can't carry:
any place requiring paid admission
schools
banks

Here is some other info:
http://www.ncrpa.org/ccwfaq.htm
http://www.ncdoj.com/law_enforcement/cle_handguns_reciprocity.jsp

Some counties are better than others. With an NC CCW, at least you can bypass NICS. No type of registration required for the state but Durham does have a voluntary registration system.

 

[rantingredneck]

What he ^ said.

To add to this one.......

Also, if pulled over by law enforcement in NC, must I declare that I have a weapon?

Yes you must inform him of the permit and the location of the weapon. But he/she will already know when they pull you. CHP information is linked to your plates through DMV database.

 

[benEzra]

NC does not have a specific castle doctrine law, but you are not required to retreat, either.

NC does have a limited castle doctrine law. It applies if someone is in the act of breaking into your house, but ceases to apply once he's in (go figure). If an intruder is IN the house, ordinary self-defense rules apply.

Carry in restaurants that serve alcohol is not allowed, even if you are a teetotaler.

On the whole, NC's laws are worse than FL's, but not a great deal worse. Definitely get a CHL, as it frees you from the Jim-Crow-era handgun purchase permit requirement.

More here:

http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

 

[Tim Burke]

You are required to notify the LEO you have a CCW, regardless of whether you're actually carrying at the time or not.

Do you have a cite for that?
NC GS 14‑415.11 states that the permit holder "shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer." Hard to do that when you aren't carrying a weapon. It doesn't say you have to do either, it says you have to do both.

 

[Duke Junior]

Do you have a cite for that?
NC GS 14‑415.11 states that the permit holder "shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer." Hard to do that when you aren't carrying a weapon. It doesn't say you have to do either, it says you have to do both

Very cool!Good research,Tim Burke.

 

[fletcher]

Do you have a cite for that?
NC GS 14‑415.11 states that the permit holder "shall disclose to any law enforcement officer that the person holds a valid permit and is carrying a concealed handgun when approached or addressed by the officer." Hard to do that when you aren't carrying a weapon. It doesn't say you have to do either, it says you have to do both

If you're on foot, you don't have to say anything unless you're carrying. If you're pulled over, it is, at a minimum, highly recommended that you roll down your window halfway and say you have a permit and indicate whether or not you are carrying.

Here in FL if someone breaks into your house and you feel your life is in danger you can shoot...you don't have to flee until you are cornered until you can shoot. Is this the same in NC?

If you're in reasonable fear of your life, bodily injury, or sexual assault, you can shoot. The reality is you can shoot someone with ill intent breaking into your home without a problem. You'd be hard pressed to find a jury here that would convict you if you were really in the right on that matter.

As mentioned elsewhere, you'll hear about how you can specifically shoot someone breaking in, but there's no such law addressing once they're inside. This comes from another condition - you can shoot someone in commission of a felony, and breaking into a house at night just happens to be a felony. Just something to keep in mind, but in general it's a non-issue.

 

[cuervo]

I was going off what my instructor had said, but that was several years ago and I could have remembered wrong. Since he was a deputy, he may have also added that as something most LEOs would appreciate, if not required. As I said, too long ago to remember.

Now that benEzra mentioned it, I do remember the part about breaking in vs. being in. You can shoot someone in the act of breaking in, but if you come across someone inside already, you have to have a cause to shoot.

 

[KINGMAX]

I am from NC

I am a native of NC, = (God's Country, that is why the sky is Carolina Blue). I have carried pistols since December 1973, (being over 21). I do not have a CCW as I have never felt it an issue. I carry open, either displayed on my dashboard of my vehicle, or either stuck in the seat beside my right leg. I have been through many roadside check points. I place my weapon upon my dash under the inspection sticker as a general rule. If an officer is doing his job, it is in sight for all to view, with no intention of concealing it. If it is beside me, I stuck in to the split in the seat to show the pistol grip in plain view. When I roll up to stop, I have my drivers license and vehicle registration in hand. As I hand the officer my ID and vehicle registration I state that I am armed and do no possess a CCW. Thus far I have never had a problem.