Muron Primers...anyone use them?

[Pat Riot]

Hi Everyone,
I did a search but didn't find much regarding Murom Primers.
I found a source for these primers on AmmoSeek, but have never heard of them. All I have found is that they are made by Tula or the Russian company that makes Tula ammo.

Does anyone have experience with these?
I am mostly just curious. Not a fan of Russian ammo...or anything else, for that matter.

 

[EricBu]

Yes. They are pretty good primers, especially for reloading....not so much on new brass. And there are some limitations. they have really hard cups, and they are a tiny tiny bit bigger, so a bit hard to seat in new brass. In once fired brass, they've given me some of the best SD numbers I've ever gotten. Pistol: You can use the standard primers interchangeably between magnum and standard. The non-toxic variety does not have much oomph, and will be inconsistent with anything other than really fast powders, like TiteGroup. Rifle: Small Rifle is perfect for AR rounds, really nice.....and Large Rifle is great for that .308 brass that's been around the block a few times and the primer pocket is a bit stretched.

As far as the cups go......don't use these for striker pistols (XDs, Glocks), they can be inconsistent. Also, DAO light weight revolvers can also have a hard time punching them. On the rifle side, they will not work with rifles that have notorious light strike issues, like CZ 527 and such.

 

[Pat Riot]

Yes. They are pretty good primers, especially for reloading....not so much on new brass. And there are some limitations. they have really hard cups, and they are a tiny tiny bit bigger, so a bit hard to seat in new brass. In once fired brass, they've given me some of the best SD numbers I've ever gotten. Pistol: You can use the standard primers interchangeably between magnum and standard. The non-toxic variety does not have much oomph, and will be inconsistent with anything other than really fast powders, like TiteGroup. Rifle: Small Rifle is perfect for AR rounds, really nice.....and Large Rifle is great for that .308 brass that's been around the block a few times and the primer pocket is a bit stretched.

As far as the cups go......don't use these for striker pistols (XDs, Glocks), they can be inconsistent. Also, DAO light weight revolvers can also have a hard time punching them. On the rifle side, they will not work with rifles that have notorious light strike issues, like CZ 527 and such.

Thanks very much. I was thinking of getting some for 9mm and .38 Spl reloads. Perhaps I will just wait for some quality American primers to become available somewhere. I am not desperate...yet

 

[Blue68f100]

Be careful on who you buy from. There are a lot of scamming trying to lure you in. Knowing primers are scarce. Verify the company before you dive in.

 

[wcwhitey]

Check Natchez Pat

 

[Pat Riot]

Check Natchez Pat

I do, often. No primers today.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Hi Everyone,
I did a search but didn't find much regarding Murom Primers.
I found a source for these primers on AmmoSeek, but have never heard of them. All I have found is that they are made by Tula or the Russian company that makes Tula ammo.

Does anyone have experience with these?
I am mostly just curious. Not a fan of Russian ammo...or anything else, for that matter.

Their LR primers are my goto's for 7.65Arg, .303Brit, 7.62Russ and .30-06 NOT for the Garand. I suppose they're fine for the Garand but as @EricBu says the primer cups are thick and the brass they're made from has a higher tin content, so they tend to be "hard". Eastern European standards for "brass" are a little different than US standards. The Ruskies had all kinds of problems during the Cold War when they stole some of our Skunkworks aircraft designs because their formulas for a lot of steels and copper alloys are different. Their brass is more brittle and their bronze doesn't have the same lubricity. But their titanium-aluminum alloy was pretty good compared to our T10.

 

[Pat Riot]

Yeah, I am going to go with my initial thoughts and just skip them.
Besides, I have a healthy Cold War bias and don't trust anything Russian...including the salad dressing.

Thank you all for your input.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Yeah, I am going to go with my initial thoughts and just skip them.
Besides, I have a healthy Cold War bias and don't trust anything Russian...including the salad dressing.

Thank you all for your input.

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