My carry gun is in pieces!

[jdege]

My carry gun is in pieces!

It's a Kel-Tec P11, that I've finally (after dremelling off the belt clip pins) have disassembled to do a full fluff-and-buff.

I'm doing the full set of trigger performance improvements, and described on the KTOG site, and after an hour, I'm still polishing the transfer bar flat.

So the pieces go in the desk drawer. I'll carry on tomorrow.

As for my carry gun, I guess it's the Cougar for the next couple of days.

Never have just one gun!

 

[andrew1957]

What exactly is a Kel Tec? Better get a CZ..

 

[dude]

at least you are happy about it

........I still remember the first time I had my Garand all dissasembeled and on the table a few years back, AGGAHH!

 

[nextjoe]

Garands are pretty easy. You don't need much in the way of tools. If you want something FUN, try a gun that requires piecing together sub-assemblies on slave pins. If you don't know how to use slave pins, you'll NEVER get the darn thing reassembled.

Best,
Joe

 

[10-Ring]

Good luck w/ your project. Don't forget to tell us how she turns out when you're done!

 

[E357]

Do that "White trigger stop" thing also. Its easy and makes a GREAT difference.

Elliot

 

[firestar]

Most Kel-Tec owners know their pistols inside and out. Most have taken them apart compleatly at least once to do the fluff and buff or to replace broken parts. It is a great gunsmith training gun because if you want it to work, you had better be a darn good gunsmith.

 

[9x19]

firestar,

What a load of BS...

My Kel-Tecs (all five) have been excellent performers... 'tis a shame you've had such bad luck with these handguns.

Posted in the interest of balance.

 

[22luvr]

That's the beauty of Kel-Tecs...

If you've ever seen an exploded view of either a P11 or P32, you would be astounded at how FEW moving parts they have. I learned more about what makes autoloaders function taking apart my P11 than any other single activity.

 

[alamo]

From what I've seen of his postings, firestar has trouble with about every gun he has. Even his friends have trouble, like the friend with the Makarov who said the safety and other parts flew across the room.

 

[George Hill]

Guys, see the sign? It says "Don't Feed The Trolls."

Keep. It. Civil.

 

[denfoote]

Lose that nickle plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock!!!

 

[brian0128]

What exactly is a fluff and buff? Polishing etc or does it include deburring and rounding the edges as well? Is it all internal or do you do external stuff too?

 

[jdege]

Fluff-and-buff:

http://www.ktog.org/tecwerks.htm

 

[firestar]

"firestar,

What a load of BS...

My Kel-Tecs (all five) have been excellent performers... 'tis a shame you've had such bad luck with these handguns.

Posted in the interest of balance."
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Who you gonna believe, me or some guy that was foolish enough to buy FIVE Kel-Tecs?

 

[Bren]

"please don't feed the trolls".

"From what I've seen of his postings, firestar has trouble with about every gun he has. Even his friends have trouble, like the friend with the Makarov who said the safety and other parts flew across the room."

ROTFLMAO!

 

[yzguy]

jdege (back to the topic),
just in case you did not already know here are a few pages I put together on KT's that you might find usefull:
http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/index.htm

 

[jdege]

I like your site - especially that you include your mods that didn't work, e.g. cutting down the firing pin spring.

Well illustrated, too.

 

[firestar]

You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Haha.

"Yep, yzguy's the maestro.
Do all his trigger mods to your KT, let some guys at the range shoot it with that new trigger pull, and they'll try buying it for $600 or so.
I'm not kidding, either.
Flyer"

Come on now, lets come back to the planet earth for a second, shall we? What kind of people are offing $600 for a P-32 with "trigger mods" ? $600?!?!

 

[Lastryghts]

Maybe the kind of person who can't get his own guns working would pay 600 for a p-32! Just a thought.

 

[GunnerBS]

As a "darn good gunsmith" (translated- Kel-Tec owner, see firestar post above) myself, I have to throw my $.02 in. I'm glad I took the time to F&B my KTP-11, so now I can take it apart and troubleshoot it whenever I need to. Worked out of the box and I trust my life with it every day.

Kel-Tec isn't about cheap, it's about value.

jdege, I trust your gun went together without incident. see ya 'round

bob sends

 

[jdege]

Nope

It didn't go together without incident.

Or rather, it went together, and now it doesn't work.

Polished, and Mil-tec'ed, and assembled fine. But though the hammer goes back when the trigger is pulled, the hammer never drops.

I very carefully didn't do anything to the hammer/transfer bar interface, this time around, so I'm not sure what is going on.

 

[Rick Blaine]

Another fine gunsmith from KTOG

jdege,
I recently polished the transfer bar on my P-11. It's easy to put it back together. Yzguy has very detailed instructions on his site.
The P-11 is a great design. It's simple, reliable, and easy to take down for cleaning. Did I mention accurate? It's a great little shooter. What's not to like? Enjoy.

jdege,
Sorry, I missed your post that you had a problem after putting your P-11 back together. yzguy is the man to explain all of this so go to 1bad69.com and follow his steps.

 

[firestar]

"Nope
It didn't go together without incident.

Or rather, it went together, and now it doesn't work.

Polished, and Mil-tec'ed, and assembled fine. But though the hammer goes back when the trigger is pulled, the hammer never drops.

I very carefully didn't do anything to the hammer/transfer bar interface, this time around, so I'm not sure what is going on."
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Do I even need to say anything?

 

[OEF_VET]

Here's another devout follower of the Kel-Tec faith. I love mine, it works wonderfully, and get this, I haven't even done a F&B to it yet. (I'm too cheap to buy a Dremel tool for one chore.) The only problems I had with mine was with cheap ammo, American Ammunition for those interested.

Frank