My first gun show from the other side of the table

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I've been to lots of gun shows over the years, but before this weekend I attended as a customer. It's going to stay that way from now on too, since working tables is surprisingly hard work for a fat geezer like me!

Back story: my friend Bob involved me in the organization and preparation for sale of the extensive gun collection of his ex-brother-in-law. According to Bob, he wasn't a very nice husband or father, but we both like his daughter Chris and the guy did have really good stuff. Chris has been spending estate money like water for his medical bills, and while she shoots and likes guns, she recognized that she was out of her depth.

As mentioned in earlier posts, I'd bought seven guns from the estate myself and probably gave Chris another grand for supplies and accessories, but that barely made a dent in the mass of stuff he owned. We circulated around the local gunshop and old boy network to sell more, but there was still enough stuff left to cover a couple of tables.

Being in California, gun shows here have become less about buying and selling actual guns (though there were a few good ones at this show) than selling ammo, parts, accessories, optics, reloading stuff, etc. Both firearms and ammo require licenses and other hurdles to legally sell, plus a paid partnership with a local brick-and-mortar FFL to pick up firearms after the pointless 10-day wait. It wasn't a realistic option for that part of this estate. Our rationale for getting a couple of gun show tables was to move the reloading components, bullet molds, gun cleaning supplies and empty ammo cans. We also brought a little of our own stuff to sell while we were here.

The show was held at the local Elks Lodge, a smallish but nice and accommodating venue. The inside is a bit of a warren, with two large rooms and two alcoves with tables in between. The larger room held the main attraction, which was ammo and mostly modern guns and magazines sold by established, full-time businesses.

Easily the most interesting guns were on a couple tables between the two rooms, in the prime if drafty spot directly facing the public entrance and next to the restrooms. They had not one but two Marlin centerfire pump rifles in 32-20 and 25-50 respectively, a restocked Martini Cadet in the original .310 chambering, a Springfield .22 Trainer and a cherry SMLE, among other things. Happily I forgot my wallet (my friend Bob was driving) or I would have risked going deeper into the hole than I already was with the estate.

On the second day I also spotted and handled the nicest Imperial German Reichsrevolver I've ever seen or am likely too -- shorter barrel model with the rounded grip. $1500 and cheap at the price, which I fortunately didn't have. The seller said it would probably be back for the next show.

Here's our tables right after setup (note the 70+ ammo cans in back):

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We were in one corner of the second room, which wasn't a bad spot by any means. There weren't many other 'yard sale' types like us in the show (we may have been the only one!), which is another change from past shows. Our neighbors were all fine company and we had a fairly steady parade past the tables, though we had quite a few lulls in the traffic by Sunday.

The bulk of our sales were on Saturday, going through 7K of our 9K primers and quite a few ammo cans before noon, along with a GI Joe my late wife Lisa still had in the box (USMC Navajo code talker edition) and some militaria Bob brought along. I'd rate the show a qualified success, the main disappointments for me being all of the unsold bullet molds and my military body armor collection. I sold only one vest out of nine to a very nice young man, and just three of the molds. I may need to gunbroker the latter for the estate, but even at the giveaway price of $35 each the geezers weren't biting, and the youngsters just said "Whoa, making bullets -- that's tight".

The tables still looked pretty full by day-two -- Bob decided to wear one of my vests all day, since the corner was a bit chilly:

GunShowSaturday.JPG

My throat is quite sore after doing the 'how to get started in reloading', "ammo cans make great lunchboxes", "every married couple needs a bag of foam earplugs" and 'the history of modern body armor' talks over again so many times. Bob has done numerous retail shows over the decades for his day job in jewelry, and knew to bring a package of Riccolas along.

We met some nice people. The young guys with interested questions made this very satisfying for me. More twenty-somethings, and families with kids attended than I've seen in shows from previous decades That was also an encouraging sign. Elks Lodge staff were all very friendly and accommodating, even if I suspect that bean burrito they sold me was the cause of some fireworks in my bathroom late Sunday night.

The gun show took a lot out of my feet, but we made progress. By the end we'd recovered about $1500 for the estate, including almost another $200 to go against my personal firearm purchase tab. I don't wanna do it again, but I found the whole experience enriching.
 
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I've been to lots of gun shows over the years, but before this weekend I attended as a customer. I'm going to stay that way from now on too, since working tables is surprisingly hard work for a fat geezer like me!

Back story: my friend Bob involved me in the organization and preparation for sale of the extensive gun collection of his ex-brother-in-law. According to Bob, he wasn't a very nice husband or father, but we both like his daughter Chris and the guy did have really good stuff. Chris has been spending estate money like water for medical bills, and while she shoots and likes guns, she recognized that she out of her depth.

As mentioned in earlier posts, I'd bought seven guns from the estate myself and probably gave Chris another grand for supplies and accessories, but that barely made a dent in the mass of stuff he owned. We circulated around the local gunshop and old boy network to sell more, but there was still enough stuff left to cover a couple of tables.

Being in California, gun shows here have become less about buying and selling actual guns (though were are still a few good ones here) than selling ammo, parts, accessories, optics, reloading stuff, etc. Both firearms and ammo require licenses and other hurdles to legally sell, plus a paid partnership with a local brick-and-mortar FFL to pick up firearms after the pointless 10-day wait. It wasn't a realistic option for that part of this estate. Our rationale for getting a couple of gun show tables was to move the reloading components, bullet molds, gun cleaning supplies and empty ammo cans. We also brought a little of our own stuff to sell while we were here.

The show was held at the local Elks Lodge, a smallish but nice and accommodating venue. The inside is a bit of a warren, with two large rooms and two alcoves with tables in between. The larger room held the main attraction, which was ammo and mostly modern guns and magazines, mainly sold by established, full-time businesses.

Easily the most interesting guns were on a couple tables between the two rooms, in the prime if drafty spot directly facing the public entrance and next to the restrooms. They had not one but two Marlin centerfire pump rifles in 32-20 and 25-50, a restocked Martini Cadet in the original .310 chambering, a Springfield .22 Trainer and a cherry SMLE, among other things. Happily I forgot my wallet (my friend Bob was driving) or I would have risked going deeper into the hole than I already was with the estate.

On the second day I also spotted and handled the nicest Imperial German Reichsrevolver I've ever seen or am likely too -- shorter barrel model with the rounded grip. $1500 and cheap at the price, which I fortunately didn't have. The seller said it would probably be back for the next show.

Here's our tables right after setup (note the 70+ ammo cans in back):

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We were in one corner of the second room, which wasn't a bad spot my any means. There weren't many other 'yard sale' types like us in the show, which is another change from past shows. Our neighbors were all fine company and we had a fairly steady parade past the tables, though we had quite a few lulls in the traffic by Sunday.

The bulk of our sales were on Saturday, going through 7K of our 9K primers and quite a few ammo cans, along with a GI Joe Lisa still had in the box (USMC Navajo code talker edition) and some militaria Bob brought along. I'd rate the show a qualified success, the main disappointments for me being the unsold bullet molds and my military body armor collection. I sold only one vest out of nine to a very nice young man, and just three of the molds. I may need to gunbroker the latter for the estate, but even at the giveaway price of $35 each the geezers weren't biting, and the youngsters just said "Whoa, making bullets -- that's tight".

The tables still looked pretty full by day-two -- Bob decided to wear one of my vests all day, since the corner was a bit chilly:

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We met some nice people. My throat is quite sore after doing the 'how to get started in reloading', "ammo cans make great lunchboxes", "every married couple needs a bag of foam earplugs" and 'the history of modern body armor' talks over again so many times. Bob has done numerous retail shows over the decades for his day job in jewelry, and knew to bring a package of Riccolas along.

The young guys with interested questions made this very satisfying for me. More twenty-somethings, and families with kids attended than I've seen in shows from previous decades That was also an encouraging sign. Elks Lodge staff were all very friendly and accommodating, even if I suspect that bean burrito they sold me was the cause of some fireworks in my bathroom late Sunday night.

The gun show took a lot out of my feet, but we made progress. By the end we'd recovered about $1500 for the estate, including almost another $200 to go against my personal firearm purchase tab. I don't wanna do it again, but I found the whole experience enriching.
Wow that's a good show IMHO. Seems like reloading stuff is very hard to sell here in OKC.... About the only thing people want is primers at 30 bucks a brick. Which as you know, ain't gonna happen. Even our cost as an FFL is 70-90 a brick depending on what it is. Bullets are hit or miss. Brass is basically unsellable unless your giving it away for nothing.... Sigh... Normal people don't really understand just how much money and time it takes to setup tables, (as you found out this weekend!!) Glad to hear y'all in CA are still having cool shows even if you have to wait 10 days for a gun which is a flawed logic. I'm probably preaching to the choir about that though...
 
Sounds like a show I attended a few years back in Priest River Idaho. Small with locals selling wares vs the ‘professionals’ who travel from show to show with trailers and need to meet a certain profit margin to make a living. Your show sounds more like a gun flea market atmosphere. Those ARE the ones you find deals at.

Sadly they’re far and few between these days. Note my concurrent thread running about a much larger gun show I attended Saturday.

At the Priest River show I picked up a clean stainless Ruger Single Six with birds head grip in .32 H&R for $450 or $500. Had it transferred to my out of state FFL. Felt good about that purchase.

Wish your show was much closer so I could have attended. No doubt my wallet would have taken a beating in a venue like that.
 
Thanks for sharing that, Dave. I especially liked your mention of the two Marlins in 25-20 and 32-20. I believe they were model 27s if I remember correctly. I have been lusting after one of those is either caliber , for years. At least I already have a Remington model 25 in 25-20.
The 32-20 was all original and $1400, the 25-20 was nicely refinished and a much more tempting $750.
 
Wow that's a good show IMHO. Seems like reloading stuff is very hard to sell here in OKC.... About the only thing people want is primers at 30 bucks a brick. Which as you know, ain't gonna happen. Even our cost as an FFL is 70-90 a brick depending on what it is. Bullets are hit or miss. Brass is basically unsellable unless your giving it away for nothing.... Sigh... Normal people don't really understand just how much money and time it takes to setup tables, (as you found out this weekend!!) Glad to hear y'all in CA are still having cool shows even if you have to wait 10 days for a gun which is a flawed logic. I'm probably preaching to the choir about that though...

We eventually sold all of the primers (@ $60/K), and about half of the brass (cheap), but relatively few bullets, even surplus .223 FMJs.

I think the tables here were $105 each, the cost split between Bob and the estate. Both came out well ahead, but not so much had we been paid by the hour -- Bob made a total of something like $400 for himself from his knives and bayonets, plus an aircraft bomb release lever some youngster bought for his Miata. My Navajo Joe went for $20 and the one vest fetched $75.
 
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Wish I had been there, Dave. I might have bought them both. But, not being a resident, probably not. California doesn't recognize C&R licenses if I remember correctly.

Beats me. I looked into a C&R license long ago, and concluded that the plusses weren't worth the hassle in this state. Kind of like me and Amazon Prime minus the potential for police raids. :-/

I can tell you that talking with the CA DOJ by phone requires a very stiff drink or two, and is likely to leave one either misinformed or uninformed afterward. Even some of those guys don't know what the laws here actually mean.
 
We eventually sold all of the primers (@ $60/K), and about half of the brass (cheap), but relatively few bullets, even surplus .223 FMJs.

I think the tables here were $105 each, the cost split between Bob and the estate. Both came out well ahead, but not so much had we been paid by the hour -- Bob made a total of something like $400 for himself from his knives and bayonets, plus an aircraft bomb release lever some youngster bought for his Miata. My Navajo Joe went for $20 and the one vest fetched $75.
105 a table?!!! Geeze... They are like 40 each for us...
 
They are like 40 each for us
And US$86/tbl at Will Rogers in Fort Worth--these things vary.

Being on both sides of the table is a very eye-opening experience. As is set-up time Friday afternoon.

On the vendor side, it can be tough, as you can feel very "trapped" behind that table/tables. And, for largely sitting all day, good shoes are as important on the vendor side of the table as on the buying side.
 
. I looked into a C&R license long ago, and concluded that the plusses weren't worth the hassle in this state.
They can be fantastic if one doesn't live in a state (California ) that requires all firearms transactions to go through a type 1 FFL. I once walked into a Cabela's in Nebraska and walked out with an Argentine Mauser, the same day, with no 4473 or background check.
 
On the vendor side, it can be tough, as you can feel very "trapped" behind that table/tables. And, for largely sitting all day, good shoes are as important on the vendor side of the table as on the buying side.

For day two I doubled up on socks and it helped. Back in the early noughties I worked 8-hour shifts five days a week, mostly standing up -- but I was younger, thinner and in better shape then.

The last CA gunshow that I needed good shoes for was the 1992 Great Western show in Pomona. My wife and I drove there from Fresno, spent 4 hours doing everything at a dead run, then drove back the same day. Exhausting but fun!

Those days are gone in CA, but then so are the days of $75 Nagant revolvers, Makarovs and Mosins.

I think the thing to do is whatever we can still do, make the best of it and work toward better times.
 
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Dave, back in the 80s I lived in Fremont, in the Bay Area and there were two gun shows that I regularly went to. The San Jose Show every month and the Cow Palace Show, a couple of times a year. Both were gigantic. The CP show required two days to see.

Sadly, both are long gone, but I still have a rifle I picked up at the CP show. A pristine Ross M-10 sporter in 280 Ross.
 
Dave, I feel your pain about the all around hassle of working a show - but mine were all fishing shows over many years - a few out of state but mostly local. I never had to pay for a table since I was generally working at a tackle shop's booth as a fly tyer.... Even sitting down behind the tying desk and just talking to all comers while busy tying and selling the flies that would cover my expenses, was very tiring - and a long day any way you looked at it. Yes, you meet lots of interesting folks - and occasionally make contacts with other businesses or individuals that will pay dividends later -but I'm glad that I no longer feel obligated to work this or that show....
 
Damn ! I wish I had known about that .32-20 rifle as I have a S&W 6" revolver in that caliber !

Mine's a 4" Hand Ejector, with a controversial Cerakote refinish.

Reloading brass courtesy Tark; before that I was shooing a workaround handload made from shortened 7.62 Nagant gas seal brass:


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I also have a .32-20 rifle, but it's a single shot bolt action from Sweden. Nice rifle, but the design didn't feature an ejector and it needs one!

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