Ridiculous table at Gun Show

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I am always a fondler before I am a buyer. If you piss me off during my fondling phase, I buy from someone else.

Let me clue some in to a basic marketing principle. If your product is indistinguishable from the competition in price, quality, features, and availability; then there is only one way to distinguish yourself - service. If your service sucks you are sunk.
 
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I am always a fondler before I am a buyer. If you piss me off during my fondling phase, I buy from someone else.

Let me clue some in to a basic marketing principle. If your product is indistinguishable from the competition in price, quality, features, and availability; then there is only one way to distinguish yourself - service. If your service sucks you are sunk.
Oh, I'm the same way!
I agree wholeheartedly with exactly what you are saying!

I, myself, have left gun stores if the man behind the counter didn't seem to have the time to show me a couple of pistols from the case that I wanted to see.

It works for cars, too. In fact, I saw a brand-new Mustang at the nearby Ford Dealer when I stopped in, but the salesman had the (beautiful-summer) day off and I happened to just meet up with him over at the gas pump, filling it with gas. I told him that I would really like to buy that car, trading in another car I had there with me. He told me "come back tomorrow, then we can talk." He drove off in the Mustang.

I went straight to another dealer, over an hour away from where I live and got to drive another sporty car and that day spent nearly $30,000 on a brand new car and drove the new car home with me that day!

I called the first salesman that night and told him "I was READY TO BUY, but you seemed more interested in enjoying your day off in the hot sports car, I can understand that, but I am letting you know you lost a BIG and EASY sale today! Enjoy the Mustang!" He saw me many times after that in my "other" new car and he probably didn't have a kind word for me - hey he can kick himself all he wants, he was the one who got the jollies on the nice summer day driving around in the brand-new Mustang Convertible!

I had done business there previously and never again (that was in 1994)!
 
Above all else, I try not to ABUSE the guns. That I could understand would not be cool from a seller perspective - some goof picks up a gun, scratches it up or whatever - not cool.

Let's just say there are three thousand people who walk through a gun show on a three-day weekend. Let's assume for a moment that one person in 100 is extremely clumsy, does not know how to handle guns and seems to ruin everything they touch.

Three-thousand people divided by 100 who show up leaves 30 people who just came out of the barn, they still smell like s***, and let's just imagine that out of those 30, only half happen to come by your table and pick up that brand-new gun, bumping the other guns as they pick it up, fumbling the action with the stock against their HUGE belt buckle and essentially not knowing if they are fondling a rifle or a shotgun - let alone what caliber it might be! There, 15 people who have somehow managed to put 15 marks of some sort on one gun and/or others.

Yes, you wipe the fingerprints all off and place it back on the table (because, of course they didn't buy) but you didn't see some drewel from the smokeless tobacky that fell down off his chin into the action.

You are back at your store with your inventory carefully set up again and the brand new gun can now be sold for $50 less, why? Because the person who wants to buy it opened the action and for some reason, there is rust on the main reciever, some on the bolt and some on two other parts in there that the buyer could live with, but for a PRICE.
 
And you guys wonder why some people like me will never consider going to a gun show.

Disarm yourself.

Pay exorbitant prices.

Pay to touch (inspect) the junk they sell.
 
I am always a fondler before I am a buyer. If you piss me off during my fondling phase, I buy from someone else.

Let me clue some in to a basic marketing principle. If your product is indistinguishable from the competition in price, quality, features, and availability; then there is only one way to distinguish yourself - service. If your service sucks you are sunk.

Economics 101; you understand it.
 
And you guys wonder why some people like me will never consider going to a gun show.

Being older my memory is feeble enough that every couple of years I forget that. Then I have to go to another gun show, to remember why I don't go to gun shows. :D

I have much better luck at pawn shops.
 
Vote with your wallet, if you don't like it then move along. If he doesn't sell anything maybe he will get the message.
 
I have only ever been to two gun shows.
Each show was dead of winter and below zero outside. Each show meant parking in some place (after spending 35 minutes finding a parking spot) and then waiting about 20 minutes outside at 5 below zero before even getting into one which was in a school gym, the other at a huge auditorium.

Then, once inside, there were so many people, it was literally packed almost so solid that you really could not move on your own, you had to kind of go with the flow of people.

I guess I remember things like people picking their nose, people coughing on the back of my head, people sneezing 10" from the side of my face, mostly junk for sale and when it wasn't junk - I could get the same thing for less at my local store! I bought about 1,000 pcs. of brass and I remember lugging that all around until my arms nearly broke off. When I finally got out of the place, I was so relieved to be in the quietness of my own car!

Once I got the brass home, what I thought was good brass was junk. About 1/3 of it I threw out and the other 2/3 I loaded and marked for "last shot only!" So, I guess if I need to shoot and not worry about picking up the empties, those are what I will take with me.
 
How a customer is treated.

This story was conveyed to me years ago. In the Amish country of NE Ohio, some Amish were in a tractor dealership looking at tractors. The dealer, was not taking them seriously and in fact was poking fun at their appearance, their hats, their beards. He was apparently not aware that the Amish pool their resources when it comes time for acquiring big ticket items and these guys were in effect, "purchasing agents" They didn't get mad, but they did shortly thereafter go across the road to another dealership ... and proceeded to purchase 17 tractors.
 
There are a lot of stories, true...:scrutiny:

But the person we are posting about had a legitimate reason...:confused:
His location of FFL and town he lived in set the mode I have a feeling...
 
How a customer is treated.

This story was conveyed to me years ago. In the Amish country of NE Ohio, some Amish were in a tractor dealership looking at tractors. The dealer, was not taking them seriously and in fact was poking fun at their appearance, their hats, their beards. He was apparently not aware that the Amish pool their resources when it comes time for acquiring big ticket items and these guys were in effect, "purchasing agents" They didn't get mad, but they did shortly thereafter go across the road to another dealership ... and proceeded to purchase 17 tractors.
Yes, I can see that happening, and I'm sure it was a CASH transaction as a lot of them I don't think believe in banks, borrowing money, credit, credit cards, etc.

Things may be more different now than they were where I grew up near Amish people back in the 60's.
 
It's definitely true, I live in Illinois. You just by default show it to the guys at the table and they say ok. Most don't even really look at it, and in the rare occurences you forget to show em your FOID, they don't say a thing about it. It's sad, but it's true. The FOID thing is really annoying.

Both the Wheaton and Kane county gun shows have degraded to a circus. The sellers all act like what they have is the best and rarest around. There are a few exceptions of course, but they are getting to be a rare commodity these days. Its not uncommon to see ammo on tables at 10 to 20 percent or even more than what you can get it at WalMart for. These people need to get out of their little worlds and taste reality once in a while. Someone needs to let them know the shortages are over.

As for the FOID thing. You dare not chance asking and "Looking" at it before letting someone touch a weapon. The Illinois gun shows have undercover police working the aisles and testing the vendors. If you violate it, you will be arrested. Just ask the promoters from the old Lake county gun shows.

Yes Illinois is the most repressive state in the union when it comes to firearm ownership, and also the dumbest. Most businesses that were worth a whit have left the state due to exhorbitant taxation, and the gov we have now is following suit with what everyone before him did. Illinois is only exceeded by California in the race to bankruptcy.
 
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As for the FOID thing. You dare not chance asking and "Looking" at it before letting someone touch a weapon. The Illinois gun shows have undercover police working the aisles and testing the vendors. If you violate it, you will be arrested.

What a discrace that this kind of thing could happen in America! :eek: :( :fire:
 
I go along with CZ. I go to a gun show and get griped seeing all the stuff selling for more than I can buy them from my favorite GS for less and determine I won't go to another show. Then I forget and go to another. I haven't seen any good deals at shows in the past few years. For good deals I go to Google nowadays.
I despise the Left Leaning government of Oregon but at least anyone can walk in a gun show and fondle the merchandise without permission of the state. No one's going to give you a problem walking out of the show with a rifle or pistol in your hand. It would be hard fom me to live in a restrictive state after spending most of my life in Alaska and now in Oregon.
 
Let me clue some in to a basic marketing principle. If your product is indistinguishable from the competition in price, quality, features, and availability; then there is only one way to distinguish yourself - service. If your service sucks you are sunk.


Love it! +1
 
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