My Future Bench Rifle

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Lol Surplus is really only good out to about 300 meters. Then you're trying to hit the broadside of the barn, lol. But the intended set up will be able to take all type of 8mm and should stay roughly accurate with everything I feed it, at least, that's what I'm intending. Trust me, I have thought about making it 7.62x54r. I just don't see any feasible way of doing that seeing as I want it to be a reliable repeater.
 
I don't mean to hijack your thread LJ, but someone asked what your twist rate of your .243 barrel is. I wanted to know, what would be the optimum twist rate for 1000 yard shooting with a .243 Win rifle 24" long.

I hope you don't mind me asking.

Mikey!
 
I think something that hasn't been addressed is your title of this thread, "future bench rifle". What you've already got would be adequate setup for a bench rifle. When most people think about bench rifles, they think of huge slab, chunky stocks, custom barrels, blueprinted actions, custom triggers, and ultra high end optics. I admit that I fall into this category too. Especially if you talk about shooting 1000 yards, it's even easier to start thinking along these lines. But in a reality a bench rifle can all kinds of things.

The point is, if you hadn't mentioned wanting to shoot 1000 yards, it wouldn't take much to turn your setup into an adequate bench rifle. But when you talk about 1000 yards, there's a BIG step from what you've got to what you need. Nobody here wants to see you sink a bunch of money into something and find out later that your money could have been better used in other ways.

And as far as wanting to be different and use the 8mm, I know the feeling. Sometimes I like to do unconventional things as well. If you're planning on reloading and developing loads for an 8mm, then you might want to look at some other calibers. If you have the equipment to reload, your caliber choice isn't just limited to mass produced common calibers like .308, etc. Take a look at some Ackley Improved calibers and others. I think you'll find a cartridge better suited for 1000 yards than the 8mm and it can still be something that isn't as common as commercial calibers.
 
You could always use the .243 for practice- as has been suggested- and then, after you've shot it out in another 2500 rounds, rebarrel to .260 Remington. You should hopefully be able to afford Leupold-quality optics by then. :)
 
I've already made up my mind to use 8mm Mauser, and I'm using what want, so. I appreciate the advice, but this rifle is going to be made into a tactical rifle.
Alrighty then, I guess you don't need our 2 cents.
 
LJ Mosin-Freak-Buck said:
I've already made up my mind to use 8mm Mauser, and I'm using what want, so. I appreciate the advice, but this rifle is going to be made into a tactical rifle.

Well it looks like your mind is made up, good luck with your new tactical rifle. Keep us informed of the progress and make sure you post some pictures on how it shoots out to 1000 yards.
 
LJ
The problem I see with your rhetoric is that now when you really come back here with a desire for HELP, nobody will believe that you really want HELP!

You're kinda like the 3 yr old who you tell that the stove is HOT... you can't understand HOT until you feel what HOT feels like.

Your rifle - scope combo will be HOT!
 
I don't mean to hijack your thread LJ, but someone asked what your twist rate of your .243 barrel is. I wanted to know, what would be the optimum twist rate for 1000 yard shooting with a .243 Win rifle 24" long.

I hope you don't mind me asking.

Mikey

If you are shooting 1000 yards with a .243Win you are going to want the long heavy bullets, something in the 105-115gr bullets. As far as I know, to stabilize 115gr pills you are going to need a 1:7" to 1:8". Some people find the 1:8" to work fine while others have stated they needed to go as fast as 1:7". I haven't tried my hand at 1000 yards with anything so my first hand experience with the ultra heavy barrels is limited.
 
I've stated that I abandoned the 8mm and 1000 yarder idea and I'm just going to make the rifle an 8mm tactical rifle for ranges only up to about 600, if I can get the round to work in the magazine, so. Yes, I really do appreciate the advice, but I don't like to be steered away from things I really want to do. That is, I don't want to be steered to another caliber that I have no interest in owning. That goes for 260 Remington, 270 remington, 7mm Remmy Mag... They're just rounds that I don't want to commit to. The rifles I have all shoot similar rounds and I want a change of pace, something that isn't seen too often, if at all. And you can't tell me that it wouldn't be cool to see a tactical sniper chambered for 7.92x57.
But I've also said, if I can't realistically get the round I intend to use to work (and that is if I can't figure out a way to modify the action and the magazine to accept the round) then I'll just go with .308, the original caliber I had in mind for this rifle. I won't need to change bolt-heads, but I might need to get a stronger main spring for when I want to use mil-surp in the rifle (for either caliber I choose, I've heard military primers are harder).
 
Respectfully, if you didn't want people giving their two cents about caliber choice, you shouldn't have posted a thread. There is usually a reason that people suggest these things and it's not to start an argument. The .260, .270, 7mmMag that you mentioned, those are all still fairly common commercial cartridges. Did you do any research on the Ackley Improved stuff that I recommended earlier? If you want uncommon and not seen often, that's a good way to go.

And I'm somewhat confused by your contradicting statements. You say you want something that's uncommon and rarely used. Then a few sentences later you say if you can't modify your magazine, you'll just go with a .308. It doesn't get any more common than a .308 in a tactical rifle.
 
Contradictory it may seem, but that was my original caliber choice, but I don't like being of the million, I like being one in a million. .308 is what I'll end up with if I can't figure out a way to make my intentions work.
 
And the cheek piece is actually made out of an old t-shirt's sleeves (short) rolled up, duct taped to the stock, then colormatched (kinda) to the stock with Electrical tape. It works great.
 
And the cheek piece is actually made out of an old t-shirt's sleeves (short) rolled up, duct taped to the stock, then colormatched (kinda) to the stock with Electrical tape. It works great.

It may work great... But custom it is NOT!


Mikey!
 
Bullets?

Your 243 is closer to a 1000 yard rifle then a 8x57. Have you looked at the supply of 8MM bullets that would work at a 1000 yards?
Google 1000 yard bench rest. Read. Save money.
 
just throwin this out there - Since you've abandoned 1,000 yarder idea; why not tweak your Turk or get another 8 mil mauser to tweak into a 'tactical 8mm'. then you can still have your .243
 
.243 is too expensive round in my tastes and area, and if I had my choice it wouldn't have been a .243 in the first place. I recieved the rifle as a gift from my step-dad for a birthday one year, it was a hand-me-down, but I had talked to him before recieving it about wanting to make a bench rifle, and I knew Savages were really easy to work on, so he gave it to me as a gift.
The rifle itself as I have known it was never going to remain in the .243 chambering. And we've had this discussion before on your post, lol, I'm not comfortable with commiting that blasphemy:D:eek::rolleyes:;)
 
LJ,

Just so you know. I hope for your sake, I am not the only one who knows something you ask about in the future, because I will not help you any further. You are immature and for the lack of a better term "Annoying!" Good luck getting your cheaper than .243, 8mm rifle shooting 1000 yards tactically or whatever whim you've changed your mind to. May your bullets never drop and your tacticool scope serve you with nothing but crystal images! And that custom cheek piece with shirt sleeves rolled up and adhered with duct tape, not be too lumpy to sleep on! Don't forget the 1/4" vent holes drilled in such a precise non-straight line. That is classic! Love your efforts there prince LJ MFing Buck!

Mikey!
 
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