Arkansas Paul
People turning the victim into the bad guy isn't something I expected to see here.
Someone kicks in a man's locked door and steals his things, and it's his fault. Wow! Really?
What alarm company only charges $20 a month? I'm curious because I've been looking around, and it seems $35 (phone line) and $45 (cell) per month is the going rate around here.He needs to get a monitored alarm system. Heck, well worth the $20 a month.
I agree with this, so long as children aren't around (which you already covered but it's worth repeating that you need extra measures inside the house with kids around).When we concede that our own locked houses aren't "secure" then the RKBA and 2nd Amendment supporters have already lost the battle.
My personal opinion is that is very dangerous idea to have and let spread, especially among 2nd Amendment supporters.
2WheelsGood
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Originally Posted by Onward Allusion
He needs to get a monitored alarm system. Heck, well worth the $20 a month.
What alarm company only charges $20 a month? I'm curious because I've been looking around, and it seems $35 (phone line) and $45 (cell) per month is the going rate around here.
But leaving it unsecured, out in the open while he was out of town was very irresponsible and if I knew him, I would certainly say this in person.
There are ways to deal with this. Like I said, think like a thief. A smash and grab will check the nightstand, under the bed, (typically flip the mattress) and in the closet.What about the thousands of people who use ARs, shotguns, or other rifles as their chosen home defense weapon? My guess is that those people keep their long gun within quick grasp from their bed, like I do. Is that just as "reckless" and "irresponsible"? Are people supposed to keep their Mossberg 500s and Remington 870s in their nightstand?
Will I start putting my nighstand gun in a safe before leaving for extend periods of time now. Yes, I think I will. But it has nothing to do with being considered "reckless" and "irresponsible" if I don't. It's because I want to keep my gun collection in tact. Say what you will, but I will always have my nightstand gun within quick reach when I'm in bed, with the only exception being if we ever decide to have children or if children ever come into our home.
Very well said.To the op, sorry your home was violated, but I'm glad no one was hurt.
Now to enter in the controversy.
I'm a retired security pro; owned a access controls business for years. I've seen a lot of breakins both sophisticated and brutally simple.
My guns are always as safe as I can make them. There may not be any legal or moral liability for me leaving my guns out in a locked house, but God gave me a brain. My safe is hidden, bolted to concrete, and my sd gun is with me at all times. I have hidden a gun at times in my house for easy accessibility, but it was hidden well. A gun is not hidden if it's in a drawer or under a mattress, because these are first places a smash and grab robber looks.
For folks that haven't experienced a break in, it's easy to to think it will never happen. I can tell you from experience that it sucks and being prepared doesn't have to be expensive. Just like self defense, it's state of mind.
One of my primary reasons I'm this cautious is that I don't want someone hurt by my guns in the wrong hands; and I certainly don't want to come home and see the barrel of my own gun pointed at me. This happens more than many gun owners like to admit.
And analogy of the car is faulty. Even though cars kill far more people in this country than guns, they are not designed to kill, and aren't under scrutiny by people wanting to take them away.
And yes, I hide my car key too since it has become popular for thieves to load their loot up in the family wagon and steal it too. I hate thieves and want to make it as hard for them as I can.
Az
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Redneck2 wrote: I got an awakening a few years ago. One of the family friends works at the local court house. She said that, for whatever reason, they were talking about guns at work. She was telling her co-workers about my stuff...
I don't blame her. I blame myself. Note to self...keep mouth shut.
Actually, my post wasn't directed at anyone in particular, and it wasn't directed at you. I'm sorry if it struck a nerve.Corporal K
It's like the woman who gets raped and is accused of wearing too short of a skirt. There are a few on this board that are extremely self-righteous and if you believe what they post, you would think they would be a candidate for canonizing. It is unfortunate and sad.
What a ridiculous statement. There was nothing in my previous post that said he "deserved" to have his gun stolen. But leaving it unsecured, out in the open while he was out of town was very irresponsible and if I knew him, I would certainly say this in person.
My house was broken into years ago and several items were stolen, except for my guns which were locked in a safe. None of us live in Mayberry. Secure your arms and the neighborhood knucklehead won't be running around with them, as one certainly is in this case.
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