My Hornady progressive press has arrived, beauty

[bbqreloader]

Good points but no pictures anymore in that post.

Ya, Reefer, I think the pictures got lost when they moved over to the new site, the post was pre- new site. Bummer, because he did have some good pics for the examples
And I corrected the post, it was bobotech that had the pictures.

 

[Paddy]

My LnL ap / lee CC combo is also working amazingly well. The fact Is that for what the LnL is, and for what Hornady charges forit, there isn't a better value on the market period.
As a side note thanks to all for not making it a red vs blue debate. We all know those are nice too, but darn it these Hornady presses are a well made piece of kit, and very well supported too!

The only thing I'd wish for on this press is a sixth station.

 

[rskent]

The only thing I'd wish for on this press is a sixth station.

And a primer pocket swager.


Are you listening Hornady?

 

[Blue68f100]

So how many problems did you have with the Hornady case feeder? I'm really on the fence with this as I've heard so many issues and for me up here its over $600.00 for case feeder and both pistol case feeder plates.

I had problems with brass ridding on top causing jam's. They have since fixed this. Remember mine is one of the early presses before they went to the Ez-Eject. I did update the shell plate when it was offered. I also had problem with brass tilting when the shoe pushed the brass into the shell plate. This was an easy fix, I just added a piece of leather to the bottom of the shoe so it pushed from a lower point and it no longer tilts. This only happened on the small 9mm case. My press is around 10 yrs old and has quite a few miles on it. Would I buy it again, YES. It's a very simple press design that has it's advantages. There are only 2 pieces of plastic on the whole press. One holds the Primer supply feed tube the other hold the primer actuator rod at the top of the press.

Now if you compare this to the 650 your within $100 of the LNL-AP. Till you start adding in caliber conversion cost, and extras needed. That was what killed the deal for me. I load for 10 calibers. And the fact that it has a history of setting of primers. This was a problem that showed up when I first looked at them in the earliy 80's. Run 40 years forward they still have not fixed it. All due to a plastic part failing in the primer system, a 10 cent item. Now it only happens if you force it through the hang, which is not a good thing to do on any AP.

 

[JohnMc]

I started with a single stage, but bought a LnL AP when I started loading for pistol. I don't regret the decision at all- the time savings is worth almost as much as the fun I had setting up and learning to run a new press. I guess I'm in the "toys and tools" contest, but I don't expect to win since I only have 7 presses...

Oh, crud, looks like I may be losing; I only have three presses. There's a show in Raleigh today, I'm off to work on winning!

 

[mstreddy]

BillBloggins, welcome to the LNL AP. I'll echo what many have said, it's a fine press and you will get the feel of it in no time. You will be able to tell when the primer is not right. And given the retainer spring, it's a simple thing to remove the case and check the primer when you think something isn't right. Yes, it slows you down, but it's better to check than have it go around, get a bullet and then have to be pulled.
As said above, if you encounter any glitch, stop, pull the cases off the stations, figure it out and then continue.

As some, I started on a RockChucker single stage, I moved on to a Lyman turret, and then I moved to the Hornady Projector, and then the LNL AP. Now, I have two LNL APs. I load 9MM, 380 ACP, 32 ACP, 45 ACP, 40 S&W, 38 Spcl, 357 Mag, 45 GAP, 45 Colt, and 300 Blackout. All on the AP. I load 223 Rem, 308 Win and 30-06 on a combination of the RC and the AP. I do the sizing on the RC. Process the cases for primer pocket crimp, trimming, etc, and then go on the AP for priming, powder, and bullet seating.

I load and shoot around 4K rounds a year across the various calibers. 9MM accounts for half of that.

 

[Reeferman]

I had problems with brass ridding on top causing jam's. They have since fixed this. Remember mine is one of the early presses before they went to the Ez-Eject. I did update the shell plate when it was offered. I also had problem with brass tilting when the shoe pushed the brass into the shell plate. This was an easy fix, I just added a piece of leather to the bottom of the shoe so it pushed from a lower point and it no longer tilts. This only happened on the small 9mm case. My press is around 10 yrs old and has quite a few miles on it. Would I buy it again, YES. It's a very simple press design that has it's advantages. There are only 2 pieces of plastic on the whole press. One holds the Primer supply feed tube the other hold the primer actuator rod at the top of the press.

Now if you compare this to the 650 your within $100 of the LNL-AP. Till you start adding in caliber conversion cost, and extras needed. That was what killed the deal for me. I load for 10 calibers. And the fact that it has a history of setting of primers. This was a problem that showed up when I first looked at them in the earliy 80's. Run 40 years forward they still have not fixed it. All due to a plastic part failing in the primer system, a 10 cent item. Now it only happens if you force it through the hang, which is not a good thing to do on any AP.

I have the LNL figured out no issues. Just not sure if adding a case feeder is worth the $600.00 or not. That's a $100.00 more than I paid for my LNL thanks to our .73 cent Canadian peso. But it would be nice not having to do both cases and bullets.
How high is the top of case feeder from the top of the LNL?

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Well I read your post right after you sent it out, but waited to respond until the BLUE DOGS hit. But the last few post that anyone has said any thing good about the Hornady they have remained quite. But I was ready to attack if they had.
I want to thank (thomas15 and bbqreloader) on their kind words about my timing method. But believe me I have had many tell me that it was foolish to have to go that far to get a press timed.
Now if you want to see my way of timing it is in the "reloading library of wisdom" then go to sub section "what clever little things have you "invented or discovered" that you can share?" go to post #1334 on page 54.
I made this timing system to help out my son in law. He has a tool box that consist of a shoe box with one large rock and one small rock. And the mechanical ability to go with it. And it works for him, so I think it is fool proof.
Now if you ever have a question please pm me I will do my best to help.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

And a primer pocket swager.


Are you listening Hornady?

They heard you.

 

[9mmepiphany]

They heard you.

That is what I use also...works great and faster than any other add-on primer pocket swaging system

 

[rskent]

They heard you.

Not really, I was thinking Dillon 1050.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Not really, I was thinking Dillon 1050.

I knew it was coming. I have a suggestion for you. Buy a Dillon 1050.

 

[rskent]

I knew it was coming. I have a suggestion for you. Buy a Dillon 1050.

Good idea. Can I count on you for a place to stay when my wife sees the bill?

 

[Paladin7]

Congrats on that new Hornady Lock N Load Press, you will love it. I added the Case Feeder and it is even better. I also love the simple mechanical design of this press and the cheap caliber conversions vs the competition. I still hand prime my brass, never liked doing it on any progressive. Also, one recommendation, I purchased an RCBS Powder Checker Die, Hornady makes one as well, and it has been a great addition. Instead of visually checking charges, the die will indicate whether your powder charge is over or under, so it makes a great addition to safety. I would highly recommend it. If you need to free up a station on your press to use a Powder Checker Die, Hornady sells a PTX Expander insert for your Powder measure which will eliminate the need for a separate expander die. This way you can expand the case mouth when you dump your powder charge and free up a die position for a Powder Checker Die. Very worthwhile investment.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Good idea. Can I count on you for a place to stay when my wife sees the bill?

Sure. Come on down. But you are going to have to stay one week. It takes that long to knock some sense in some folks. Don't worry I won't leave any marks (permanent). But the bad news is I can't protect you from the wife after you go back home and sell your Dillon to get a Hornady.

 

[Nature Boy]

I read your post right after you sent it out, but waited to respond until the BLUE DOGS hit

 

[rskent]

Well Drainsmith, if you can’t give me a more permanent place to stay, I guess I will have to keep the Hornady. No 1050 for me. I’m sad


Back to my original thought. Wouldn’t you think you could set an Hornady AP up with a swager in place of the priming punch?
Throw a bunch of brass in the case feeder and decap and swage the brass. Then run it through again to prime and load it?
Or Hornady could build a press with a swager and a sixth station. Or I could just buy a 1050.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Back to my original thought. Wouldn’t you think you could set an Hornady AP up with a swager in place of the priming punch?
Throw a bunch of brass in the case feeder and decap and swage the brass. Then run it through again to prime and load it?

If you're going to run it through twice anyway, it would be more effective and a whole lot easier on your press, to use Hornady's swaging system/shell plate.

While the 1050 was designed form the ground up to to swag with the case retained by the shell plate, it really doesn't work very well as an add-on to other presses...just ask the folks who added it to the 650s and voided their warranties when parts started to break

 

[AR-Bossman]

If you're going to run it through twice anyway, it would be more effective and a whole lot easier on your press, to use Hornady's swaging system/shell plate.

While the 1050 was designed form the ground up to to swag with the case retained by the shell plate, it really doesn't work very well as an add-on to other presses...just ask the folks who added it to the 650s and voided their warranties when parts started to break

What exactly broke, because I've seen this discussed a few times and most people can't point to this massive breaking problem. Sure, maybe a shell plate broke.. big deal. There isn't any proof of any mass breaking problem. I've seen plenty of guys with jacked up presses just because they operate them like a gorilla on meth.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Looks like good target practice to me. But than again I did get kicked out of the indoor range for a week for drawing big old ears on a target.

 

[DRAINSMITH]

Well Drainsmith, if you can’t give me a more permanent place to stay, I guess I will have to keep the Hornady. No 1050 for me. I’m sad


Back to my original thought. Wouldn’t you think you could set an Hornady AP up with a swager in place of the priming punch?
Throw a bunch of brass in the case feeder and decap and swage the brass. Then run it through again to prime and load it?
Or Hornady could build a press with a swager and a sixth station. Or I could just buy a 1050.

I tried to make one out of and old primer punch but it set to high to let the shell plate rotate.

 

[9mmepiphany]

What exactly broke, because I've seen this discussed a few times and most people can't point to this massive breaking problem.

The parts I've seen or have discussed with their owners are the Shell Plate Bolt, the Shell Plate, and the Ring Indexer

Sure, maybe a shell plate broke.. big deal.

For some people, voiding the Lifetime Warranty, is a big deal...after all, you are paying for it up front when you buy a Blue Press.

For some folks it doesn't matter. It doesn't seem to affect the sales of their 1050...with it's more limited warranty

There isn't any proof of any mass breaking problem.

I'm not sure what form of proof you'd like. I would think folks saying that Dillon won't replace their broken parts, when they've added after market parts, would be pretty convincing

 

[Elkins45]

The major reason I went with the Hornaday over the Dillon is the extra die station.

 

[Paddy]

The parts I've seen or have discussed with their owners are the Shell Plate Bolt, the Shell Plate, and the Ring Indexer


For some people, voiding the Lifetime Warranty, is a big deal...after all, you are paying for it up front when you buy a Blue Press.

For some folks it doesn't matter. It doesn't seem to affect the sales of their 1050...with it's more limited warranty


I'm not sure what form of proof you'd like. I would think folks saying that Dillon won't replace their broken parts, when they've added after market parts, would be pretty convincing

But, all the mfg offer lifetime warranties. Just saying.

 

[9mmepiphany]

But, all the mfg offer lifetime warranties. Just saying.

Without a smilie, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic