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My Krazy Cowboy Carbine idea

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, Apr 23, 2010.

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  1. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

    Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow member

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    Yeah, HSO, where is that from? Yes, like that, but a pump, with a P-grip and buttstock, and a forward-mounted ESD of some sort.

    KKK..... hhmmm, oops, didn't think of that. OK, then it's the CCC - Crazy Cowboy Carbine.
     
  2. Yo Mama

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    Yup, ccc just sounds better to me! :)
     
  3. shagmcnasty

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    great idea
     
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  5. Still 2 Many Choices!?

    Still 2 Many Choices!? Member

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    Acera:

    If you didn't notice, the ATF makes a distinction between a "handgun", and a "pistol". All pistols CAN BE handguns(or not), but all handguns not pistols. Pistols are allowed to have a second grip! Pistols can be handguns because they CAN be fired with on hand, and have a short stock below the bore axis; they don't HAVE to be designed that way like DEFINED HANDGUNS though.

    The ATF doesn't regulate HOW you hold/fire PISTOLS, or HANDGUNS(yet:scrutiny:); but how many STOCKS are on a HANDGUN. Specifically a handgun that was purpose built with only one stock, by adding a second GRIPPABLE STOCK, it is modifying the original design to something new. As stupid as it is, I see their logic.

    Still 2 Many Choices!?
     
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  6. jeffmack

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    Hey Dr. Tad,
    Did you ever get it made?
     
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    Please say yes!!!

    Actually, I think that could be a pretty slick gun.

    Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
     
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  9. Dan Forrester

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    Well I only read the first page but I think it’s a great idea. I have looked at the various pump action pistol caliber rifles but it seems like the lever actions are the way to go. I had a Marlin lever action with a 3 lug barrel and a Gemtech Trinity that I messed around with for a while. It was a great combo. Even though the Trinity is a loud suppressor it still was very pleasant out of the rifle barrel with .38 spl.

    I sold that particular gun but am planning on building another now that the stainless steel Marlin .357 lever guns are out. I always opt for stainless over blued living around salt water. I also now have an AAC Ti-Rant which is a fantastic suppressor. Once they come out with the three lug adapter for it I’ll be making another lever gun.

    If you do go with .44 or .45 LC I would look at the new 2011 AAC Ti-Rant .45 ACP since it is now possible for the end user to disassembled the can and remove the baffle stack with a supplied tool. This will allow you to remove lead buildup if shooting cast bullets. The Ti-Rant is also probably tied for the quietest .45 can on the market along with the Silencerco Osprey. However AAC revealed at the shot show that for 2011 their Ti-Rant 9mm and .45 ACP suppressors will be end user serviceable for internal cleaning.

    If you want big bore quiet you could do a lever gun in .44 magnum if you wanted. Douglas barrels makes a stainless steel fast twist barrel which can be chambered in .44 spl or .44 magnum. The barrel is 1:11 twist so you could easily stabilize 300 grain and up cast slugs at under the sound barrier. I would go with a Marlin .44 magnum lever gun in stainless with the tube cut off at the end of the stock along with a Douglas 1:11 fast twist barrel fit to the gun. That would make for a compact package firing 300 grain plus lead slugs at 1,000 fps with probably no more noise than a pellet rifle. You’d be surprised how quiet this new generation of suppressors from AAC and Silencerco are on manually operated actions.

    Post a write up if you build anything.

    Dan

    Edit: Just realized I’m replying to a year old post. Oh well. I got excited!
     
  10. Harve Curry

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    Nothing New

    I once saw a antique 1892 Winchester 25-20 in a beautiful fitted case. Guess what accessory slot was missing, the suppressor.It was considered a gentleman's varmint gun for shooting around the estate.
     
  11. Kentucky_Rifleman

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    If you get this done, I may have to follow suit. I always wanted a Delisle carbine. This would be an acceptable substitute.

    KR
     
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