BulletBender, I am very familiar with what the law here in PA says about use of force. It* does NOT say specifically any of the things that you have claimed it does. No mention of family or assailants known to the victim. Nothing in the quoted section that really gets into the area of subjects we might call "threat threshold." (Or "threat distance.")
(* -- Nor does Michigan law, which would be more relevant to the case we're discussing here, nor, I'm betting, does the law wherever YOU live, which should be informing the statements you are making.)
I have no argument with any of these statements:
If can be avoided.. avoid it. however if the "threat threshold" has become high IE: cannot avoid then force is justifiable.
And Section (2) says each situation is different so "the Threat Threshold" is different in each situation.
...but they are a far cry from what you were saying previously. You have tried to change your arguments mid-stream to avoid admitting that your previous statements were not at all true.
xxBulletBenderxx said:
Without a doubt I have proven my position, and with a quoted PA Law I might add... Sometimes its just out of the range of a person's scope to comprehend the legal wording. For example the wording in the PA Codes that I found and posted above for reference to the law.... That is why I gave an example with extemes on both sides of the spectrum to paint a clear picture. If this is not within scope, Well I cannot paint a clearer picture without the use of crayons....
You really, really do need to dig up that book you've got packed away and figure out what it really said -- which things it says are law, and which are simply principles which may guide your actions under some circumstances.
I think you are pretty confused, and are in a hole which digging further is not going to get you out of. Stop. Review your actual source material, and get a better handle on things. Then come back and re-enter the discussion if you wish, with a clearer understanding.
Simply quoting random snippets of law doesn't provide proof of anything, other than your lack of understanding, apparently
This is distressingly so.
Please -- I've asked very nicely and directly -- please answer these questions:
Me said:
Right. But what class, what instructing agency, WHAT state? I am very seriously curious who is teaching this material.
If that material did come from an state agency or department, or acceditied training group of some sort we can probably locate it and read along with you to help figure out what they were really saying.