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Thanks for the post Caribou. Good to see there are still people living like this.
My oldest son, the Seal Hunter
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Thanks for the post Caribou. Good to see there are still people living like this.
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Where are you in relation to Cold Bay AK.. I almost moved there a few years ago (aircraft related job oportunity), but had family ties here that made the move impossible...
I AM IN AWE..... And I call myself Outdoorsman..... Now I have see REAL pictures if what being an Outdoorsman is all about.... I AM IN AWE...
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I AM IN AWE..... And I call myself Outdoorsman..... Now I have see REAL pictures if what being an Outdoorsman is all about.... I AM IN AWE...
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"Since internet access depends on satellite relay, I would have thought that it wouldn't have been realistic to expect satellite access.
How about Emergency Medical Care?...Dental?
A book, 'The Grapes Of Wrath' delt with subsistence living down here. Are you aware of a book (books) that offer a deeper glimpse into the life that your folks live?
Where do the building materials come from?"
Well.....we can hang a dish outside ur house and get TV, radio, Internet, and power with a generator if we want, but since were inna village, we use "The Grid"
In camp we have a small computer that has batteries and we downloaded digital pictures, then up load them later. When were in a camp or on the move, we just use cameras and when at home we have a "real " computer.
As for medical care, the local folks here sre Eskimo' and were never defeated in combat nor traded or cecceded any lands to the US govornment, but since they werent allowed to own lands, being Native Americans, untill 1924, they were treated as "wards of the US Gov" and the Indian Health service established Hospitalls in "Hubs", of our 11 villages Kotzebue is where you get to, if you live to get there, they will patch you up enough to live onto Anchorage where they do surgery and other stuff.
Anyway, in the 60's with cicvil rights the US gov and the new state of Alaska were divving up, but a group of western, collage educated Natives made the claim that th egov only purchased the rights to govorn and tax the Alaskan territroy, and in the end got what is called the "Alaska Native Lands Claim act" as they sucessfully proved that they were inded the original owners of the lands, even with out a peice of paper that said so.
So there were repreations and cessions and with the seccession of lands by the Natives stted with a $$$ payout and land titals to chosen places (mostly their homes and ground under it, and used the money to form land and money manging corperations that made all tribal members "Shareholders" in these capitalistic endevors that were to benifit the tribes, and give control to lands that were granted to the tribes but are owned in common, with common use, so hunting grounds remain unfenced, unraoded and preserved to keep the Hunters Hunting.. They gave up claim to to the tune of 90% of the state of Alaska, so it wasnt a give away, either.
The Corperation that formed in 1971 around here is NANA Northwestern Arctic Native association.
The corperation owns and operates the largest lead/Zink mine in North america and currently funds 93 % of the tax base in our Borough, runs our 11 village school systems and ourr public safety needs, as well a s Search and rescue, fire depts, and trail staeking.
The NANA corp is also the largest employer for those who want collage and a job, they will fund the bright ones ann hire those who want to work their way up. As well they manage the lands so that this way of life can contenue, Hunting/fishing/gathering, so theres a choice for anyone on how they wantto make thier living.
Aswell, there is "Maniilaq association" a non profit community health consoratoium that has established clinics for heallth care and emergencys taht will patch you up and fly you to Kotzebue where you can get on a jet and to a hospital. Ifits a bad injury,most dont make it.
So, inna nutshell, the locals have control over land/waters for subsistance use, health care and jobs, and mostly fund their own 'thang"
Subsistance, in essence, is useing the animals, vegitaion and materials at hand,to make aliving so I'll say most of my building materials, wood to burn for heat, artwork materials that we make $$ from, and food come from the land,water and animals, but most of the house and its contents came in an airplane or barge. After we built the house, we were not bargeing much more, but the internet and the US post are great to "live like TV" after we mail Money to the bank so we can do such.~~LOL!!~~
How about Emergency Medical Care?...Dental?
A book, 'The Grapes Of Wrath' delt with subsistence living down here. Are you aware of a book (books) that offer a deeper glimpse into the life that your folks live?
Where do the building materials come from?"
Well.....we can hang a dish outside ur house and get TV, radio, Internet, and power with a generator if we want, but since were inna village, we use "The Grid"
In camp we have a small computer that has batteries and we downloaded digital pictures, then up load them later. When were in a camp or on the move, we just use cameras and when at home we have a "real " computer.
As for medical care, the local folks here sre Eskimo' and were never defeated in combat nor traded or cecceded any lands to the US govornment, but since they werent allowed to own lands, being Native Americans, untill 1924, they were treated as "wards of the US Gov" and the Indian Health service established Hospitalls in "Hubs", of our 11 villages Kotzebue is where you get to, if you live to get there, they will patch you up enough to live onto Anchorage where they do surgery and other stuff.
Anyway, in the 60's with cicvil rights the US gov and the new state of Alaska were divving up, but a group of western, collage educated Natives made the claim that th egov only purchased the rights to govorn and tax the Alaskan territroy, and in the end got what is called the "Alaska Native Lands Claim act" as they sucessfully proved that they were inded the original owners of the lands, even with out a peice of paper that said so.
So there were repreations and cessions and with the seccession of lands by the Natives stted with a $$$ payout and land titals to chosen places (mostly their homes and ground under it, and used the money to form land and money manging corperations that made all tribal members "Shareholders" in these capitalistic endevors that were to benifit the tribes, and give control to lands that were granted to the tribes but are owned in common, with common use, so hunting grounds remain unfenced, unraoded and preserved to keep the Hunters Hunting.. They gave up claim to to the tune of 90% of the state of Alaska, so it wasnt a give away, either.
The Corperation that formed in 1971 around here is NANA Northwestern Arctic Native association.
The corperation owns and operates the largest lead/Zink mine in North america and currently funds 93 % of the tax base in our Borough, runs our 11 village school systems and ourr public safety needs, as well a s Search and rescue, fire depts, and trail staeking.
The NANA corp is also the largest employer for those who want collage and a job, they will fund the bright ones ann hire those who want to work their way up. As well they manage the lands so that this way of life can contenue, Hunting/fishing/gathering, so theres a choice for anyone on how they wantto make thier living.
Aswell, there is "Maniilaq association" a non profit community health consoratoium that has established clinics for heallth care and emergencys taht will patch you up and fly you to Kotzebue where you can get on a jet and to a hospital. Ifits a bad injury,most dont make it.
So, inna nutshell, the locals have control over land/waters for subsistance use, health care and jobs, and mostly fund their own 'thang"
Subsistance, in essence, is useing the animals, vegitaion and materials at hand,to make aliving so I'll say most of my building materials, wood to burn for heat, artwork materials that we make $$ from, and food come from the land,water and animals, but most of the house and its contents came in an airplane or barge. After we built the house, we were not bargeing much more, but the internet and the US post are great to "live like TV" after we mail Money to the bank so we can do such.~~LOL!!~~
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OK...he killed some seals. WHY?
I mean, why did your son kill the seals? Did they taste good? Did their deaths bring wealth? Did their deaths bring a sense of "exceptional accomplishment"? I have killed (hunted...or "Harvested") animals for all of these reasons - and I like what I have done. I just don't understand why anyone would want to kill an adult seal on a block of ice. I mean, wouldn't it be cool if we killed a baby seal for its ' fur (I could at least get behind this)?
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Oh wonderful, here comes PITA!!! Bill, if you had taken time to actually READ the post and not react to a picture, you may have actually had your question answered for you! Caribou and his whole family sustenance hunts. They use EVERYTHING they kill for needs. From the skin to the bones. EVERYTHING is used for living!
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Naw...he don't have nuttin' like 1980's Big Box Super Markets - he's got year-2000 High Speed Internet! I wonder, how many seal pelts does it cost for a months internet connection - Verizon just don't seem to know? [total sarcasm]
Seriously...read my question again, please. I meant no sarcasm.
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There is so much I am missing in life. Thanks for the peek into your world caribou.
There is so much I am missing in life. Thanks for the peek into your world caribou.
I admit I did. You can get the Internet in far places because of satellites and by installing a dish, but that doesn't put food on the table. He doesn't live in urban America, he up on the Artic Circle. If he and his family were living in the Amazon jungle he'd be doing the same thing - hunting to feed his family.
In this country if they closed the super markets half the people would starve.
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Bill_Shelton, Your statements are beginning to read a bit "trollish". You OBVIOUSLY have not read his entire post or the followup post. Before you step on your lower extremities more, please read and then come back and apologize to our dear friend Caribou. After that, please take your P.I.T.A. membership card out and put it where the sun don't shine.
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Bill_Shelton,... ...Please take your P.I.T.A. membership card out and put it where the sun don't shine.
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It's PeTA: People eating Tasty Animals.
Always happy to help out.
And thanks, caribou. Awesome photos and storytelling. I'm going ice fishing tomorrow in your honor.
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"Why?" is a legit question, so let me further explain;
Seal oil is a ganish that people here have used for thousands of years to boost caloric intake and make the frozen foods that are eaten frozen outside in subzero weather have enough energy to digest and gain energy rather than expend energy to thaw and digest foods, and lose caloricly, something that will lead to death at subzero temps.
Raw frozen Whitefish, Caribou, 1/2 dryed and frozen seal meats as well as frozen fruits and vegtables (I love frozen grapes ) Yes I get internet for 80$ a month, aand a dozen eggs is 10$ inthe store, so i preferr to gather seagull and duck eggs in season and eat Whitefish eggs in winter.Seal oil also does not stick tto the arterial walls, so a local diet is Heart healthy.
Seal oil never freezes, even at -40 it can be burned for light and eaten. Seal blubber has a slight sea tatse to it, and dosent spoil. Old timers used to take a dry fish or two and a bag of water, a bag of seal oil and go for days, replentishing the water with ices and melting it with body heat and eating his huntings raw and frozen, with no fire needed in camp of in a snow hole taking shelter from the storms of many days.
The pelts are home tanned and use dto make clothing, arts and crafts in a tradional manner and sold for good money to museums and private people and collectors.
Its the way we feed ourselfs and make $$$ to live comfortable like. It IS The U.S.A. and if we can find it on the internet, put it in the post office, we can have it. Still gotta eat, and make a living, Subsistance Hunting, Fishing/Gathering is useing the resources at hand, that grow natuarally around you and is different in different areas, but its using the local resources to do so, and often Money is a facter. We make most $$ by turning our gatherings into arts and crafts. I'ma 2011 Hunter and internet user.
This is one reason "Why"
With Bowhead Whale muktuk, Carrots, frozen Whitfish, frozen Whitefish eggs, Frozen Caribou meats too, with some dryed salmon along with. Pretty good I must say !!!
Seal blubber renders at room temp annd all the small peices of chopped blubber will become Oil. They watch and stir out any bubbles a couple times a day , then , if summer, bury it in buckets on permafrost to keep it mellow in taste.
Hers Art work, Ink on winter blaeched Sealskin.......coulda payed the internet for a few years.
Cut meats for boiling.
Streched Seal skin from an Oogruk, a very large and delicious Seal.
A RingSeal skin, like those in the original post
Seal meats and intestines drying .......with little fish
My wife and her sister skinning a Seal out his mouth, to be used as a storage bag for 1/2 dryed meats, fish vegtable stuffs and all packed and preserved in Seal oil.
The
Poke" holeless Seal skin storage sack. basicly turned inside out and dryed, to be stuffed with "stuffs" and Seal oil. In this picture shes just finished cleaning it and inflateing it for drying...it will turn brown and she will "oil proof " it with ashes and let it dry black.
Intestins cleaned and inflated to make a water proof, extreamly tough and very very klight garmet to wear over fur clothing.
There ALOT you can do with a Seal skin. And you were wondering if this is difficult, so...let me think.....yep.
Freezing cold, sitting still, slippery and the prey can submerge and be gone at an instant. Limited light and no hope of help if something gos wrong. Hunting on the Oceans thin ice or inthe ice pack is not for the weak, feint of heart or the stupid. They simply do not comeback, annd sometimes the Best do not return either....
It is the relm of the polar bear, his back pad and my size 11 snow boot.
Seal oil is a ganish that people here have used for thousands of years to boost caloric intake and make the frozen foods that are eaten frozen outside in subzero weather have enough energy to digest and gain energy rather than expend energy to thaw and digest foods, and lose caloricly, something that will lead to death at subzero temps.
Raw frozen Whitefish, Caribou, 1/2 dryed and frozen seal meats as well as frozen fruits and vegtables (I love frozen grapes ) Yes I get internet for 80$ a month, aand a dozen eggs is 10$ inthe store, so i preferr to gather seagull and duck eggs in season and eat Whitefish eggs in winter.Seal oil also does not stick tto the arterial walls, so a local diet is Heart healthy.
Seal oil never freezes, even at -40 it can be burned for light and eaten. Seal blubber has a slight sea tatse to it, and dosent spoil. Old timers used to take a dry fish or two and a bag of water, a bag of seal oil and go for days, replentishing the water with ices and melting it with body heat and eating his huntings raw and frozen, with no fire needed in camp of in a snow hole taking shelter from the storms of many days.
The pelts are home tanned and use dto make clothing, arts and crafts in a tradional manner and sold for good money to museums and private people and collectors.
Its the way we feed ourselfs and make $$$ to live comfortable like. It IS The U.S.A. and if we can find it on the internet, put it in the post office, we can have it. Still gotta eat, and make a living, Subsistance Hunting, Fishing/Gathering is useing the resources at hand, that grow natuarally around you and is different in different areas, but its using the local resources to do so, and often Money is a facter. We make most $$ by turning our gatherings into arts and crafts. I'ma 2011 Hunter and internet user.
This is one reason "Why"
With Bowhead Whale muktuk, Carrots, frozen Whitfish, frozen Whitefish eggs, Frozen Caribou meats too, with some dryed salmon along with. Pretty good I must say !!!
Seal blubber renders at room temp annd all the small peices of chopped blubber will become Oil. They watch and stir out any bubbles a couple times a day , then , if summer, bury it in buckets on permafrost to keep it mellow in taste.
Hers Art work, Ink on winter blaeched Sealskin.......coulda payed the internet for a few years.
Cut meats for boiling.
Streched Seal skin from an Oogruk, a very large and delicious Seal.
A RingSeal skin, like those in the original post
Seal meats and intestines drying .......with little fish
My wife and her sister skinning a Seal out his mouth, to be used as a storage bag for 1/2 dryed meats, fish vegtable stuffs and all packed and preserved in Seal oil.
The
Poke" holeless Seal skin storage sack. basicly turned inside out and dryed, to be stuffed with "stuffs" and Seal oil. In this picture shes just finished cleaning it and inflateing it for drying...it will turn brown and she will "oil proof " it with ashes and let it dry black.
Intestins cleaned and inflated to make a water proof, extreamly tough and very very klight garmet to wear over fur clothing.
There ALOT you can do with a Seal skin. And you were wondering if this is difficult, so...let me think.....yep.
Freezing cold, sitting still, slippery and the prey can submerge and be gone at an instant. Limited light and no hope of help if something gos wrong. Hunting on the Oceans thin ice or inthe ice pack is not for the weak, feint of heart or the stupid. They simply do not comeback, annd sometimes the Best do not return either....
It is the relm of the polar bear, his back pad and my size 11 snow boot.
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caribou----can i spend a week with u LOL. you could teach me much jedi master
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