My response from Senator Barbara Boxer

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It seems that she thinks that those who carry guns legally are just waiting to on a shooting spree.
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And that, my friend, is the core problem with antis. They don't trust themselves to resist the urge to become murderous demons and believe it the presence of a gun is to blame. They then think that everyone shares this same mental illness...I believe it's called projection.
 
like my Girlfriend's mom said, when people have guns it becomes the first resort. If she hadn't been completely serious I would have died laughing right there. instead I felt a bitter chill come over me, because that sort of thinking is ridiculous but still that's the way many people think.
 
These regulations have been in place for 25 years and have helped make our national parks a safe place for visitors and wildlife. Please know that I strongly oppose all efforts to repeal these regulations, and I will work to keep our national parks and wildlife refuges safe for all.
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Translation: This law has been in place for 25 years so I see no reason to change it. On the other hand, the Bill of Rights, especially the 2nd Amendment has been in place for over 200 years but I aim to change that.
 
A friend of mine that I work with has a form letter from WI Gov. Doyle tacked up on the wall of his office. It has an even smarmier response than what you got from Boxer over a gun issue.
 
steverjo, your letter writing is 1) to be commended. Most Americans won't even take the time to do that. 2) might be better spent working on your friends and neighbors. Your senator is in power and has been for some time due to one thing only: Those friends and neighbors keep voting for her. Changing the minds of the population leads to changes in the government.

Out here in "flyover country", California is known as the "Land of Fruits and Nuts". It's a perception that is fostered by the government of your state, not the people. Unfortunately, the people haven't changed the representation for some time.

BTW, I was stationed in Ca. for a few years. Northern Ca. and southern Ca. are two different animals. Unfortunately, everyone gets painted with the same brush. And same state reps.
 
Letter from Boxer

Hello all. I read the board regularly, but this is my first post.

I think several of you are correct that Boxer represents the views of her constituents perfectly. I also think it is appropriate for her to say she isn't changing her mind about this issue. Her views on this issue have kept her in office for years and years. If we elected someone based on pro-2A views and they changed their mind after a few letters, we would scream and howl "traitor" and crucify her at every opportunity, and rightly so.

I also agree that we have to stay above personal attacks. If we adhere to facts and logic, intelligent people cannot argue with us. Let them be the ones to resort to juvenile personal attacks.

Stay safe -

Darren
 
I was an intern in my congressional district office for a summer over high school. They almost always gave us the letters to respond. They had a few saved on the computer for the big issues. If they didn't we had the talking points to base it on one. In the three months I worked, I never saw the congressman.

Once done, the staff person would proof it, then if it passed muster, sign the congressman's name and mail it out.

Look to either the bottom right or bottom left corner. The offices here in OH usually put the initials of the person who wrote the letter, to keep track of everything.
 
1) Writing to the senator was good. More letters = more consideration.

2) Acting surprised about what we heard back? Be serious. We know it's a political football for her.

Now, if everyone else fires her a unique letter, that's a good thing. But use the energy instead of just getting outraged.
 
It is obvious that the majority of voters in California have left-wing political leanings, and this includes their views on guns and firearms issues.

It is further obvious that this majority tend to elect politicians with similar outlooks, and that most of them belong to the Democrat Party.

Therefore if others who disagree with their stance choose to live in California (and other so-called "blue" states) they might as well come to the conclusion that unless there is a massive (and unlikely) change in demographics they're some things they will have to get used to, and an anti-gun environment is one of them.

I don’t like this, but reality is reality. I admire those that keep fighting, but I think they are getting nowhere. :banghead:
 
I think several of you are correct that Boxer represents the views of her constituents perfectly. I also think it is appropriate for her to say she isn't changing her mind about this issue. Her views on this issue have kept her in office for years and years. If we elected someone based on pro-2A views and they changed their mind after a few letters, we would scream and howl "traitor" and crucify her at every opportunity, and rightly so.
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You are quite right about Boxer's and her constituent's views, but the problem is that those views run contrary to the Constitution. She needs to be crucified(not literally) and labeled a traitor for that reason alone, and only because she acts in line with those views even though she knows they are contrary to the Constitution.

There are law abiders and law breachers. It is clear the majority of her constituents are of the same cloth as she, for she campaigned on an agenda to breach the Constitution - actually told the people who would elect her that she would breach the Constitution. Giving her constituents the benefit of ignorance of what the Constitution limits her to, I must place all the disrespect deserved in this situation on her.

Now, if she was honest and campaigned to amend the Constitution so that it would embrace her views, I would actually respect her. I doubt she'd get elected to that end, but you never know. I can respect honesty, but not duplicity.

As for the people who post comments here, yes, respect is in order. Regardless of their views, unless they are in a position to enact upon those views if contrary to the Constitution, respect is deserved and shall not be diminished other than by their own low valued manor.

That said, it isn't about disrespecting those who insult, besmirch, and debase. It's about disregarding them.

Woody
 
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I have class with a T.A. who used to work for a Senator in D.C. In case you were wondering, it's all cut and paste and done by assistants.
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It is effective and we should do the same.

We already have sticky in the Activism Forum with a sample letter, but I think we need more than that. I wonder if we could add a new sub-forum in the Activism Forum that is a repository for form letters, rebuttals, and stats that we can freely use?
 
However, her letter is an excellent model: clear, concise and focused.

We could profit by her example.

If my opponent wields the pen to take away my sword,
I'll master the pen in order to keep it.

Remember: never bring (only) a gun to a penfight.
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We could learn from her example. Someone could come up with a form letter for us like she has and post it. Then everyone who reads the thread can cut and paste like her little interns and email it to their respective Representatives and Senators.

And I love that quote about mastering the pen. It even supports my idea of making our own form letters!:D
 
If enough people contact her she may change her vote.
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Bwahahahahahahaaaa! This is Barbara Boxer we're talking about, right?

She should vote by her voters opinions not her personnel ones.
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Should but does not. She is one of the Enlightened Illuminati, and she knows what is best for you and yours. If you disagree with her, it is simply because you are less enlightened.
 
It sounds more like she thought he was talking about using the park as a shooting range.
 
I'm curious about something, and forgive me if this is a silly question, but I'm not au fait with US politics. Do you guys feel that it's more important for a politician to vote for or against laws based on their own personal beliefs - or to vote according to the dictates/wishes of the majority of their voters?

I'm aware that it wouldn't change a politician's mind either way - I'm just curious as to whether a politician is truly representative of the people or if they storm forward with their own agenda (for good or bad) regardless of people's wishes. Or are there politicians out there who actually do listen?
 
I'm just curious as to whether a politician is truly representative of the people or if they storm forward with their own agenda (for good or bad) regardless of people's wishes.
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If they get paid with tax dollars, I expect them to represent the values of their constituents. If they find those values abhorrent, they simply should not purport to represent that group. While there are arguments to be made that significant social injustices can sometimes only corrected via independent acts on the part of elected representatives, I remain convinced that the dangers of such behavior outweigh the benefit.

In most cases, the pols come to believe over time that they are SMARTER than their constiuents. By the time they get to the national stage, they are (for the most part) so steeped in their own press releases that they can no longer even see the 'will of the people'.

Having said that, it seems to me that the process is sort of self-leveling, in that in many cases the people elect folk that seem to espouse the values they hold. So, in a reverse sort of way, the elected official *is* representing the will of their constituents simply by being who they are.

In the case of Barbara Boxer, she actually is probably closer to the values of her constituents than not. I just don't care for those values. :)
 
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Beyond reform

"'Enuf said

She's beyond reform"--DoubleTapDrew

Seems there's a lot of'em beyond reform.

Maybe they could all go to some kind of recovery program, and we could hold office?:)
 
Your vote counts. Start a movement and vote her out of office. Nothing will changed until they are gone. However, it does seem as though she represents a sizable majority of the her voters in CA just like Nancy Pelosi.
 
We just need change.

Change change change.

Listen up - BHO will give you change.

Pay attention.

:cool:
 
Seems there's a lot of'em beyond reform.

Maybe they could all go to some kind of recovery program, and we could hold office?
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As much as I'm against adding gov't programs, maybe a public assistance program to help cure these poor politicians suffering from hoplophobia after declaring it a genuine mental disorder?
 
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