My Second Gun Accident

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Or, "why I check everything today."

I had a Ruger .45 Blackhawk I was customizing. I cut the angles off the grip frame and made a modified Bird's head out of it. This was before Ruger had the Birds Head. I say modified because I left the backstrap relatively straight instead of curving inward. This allowed a better brace against full recoil loads.

I was always holding this weapon, testing it, finding the right balance for the new grips I'd carved to fit. Perhaps they needed just a little more wood removed. In this way I slowly carved it to perfection for my hand.

Trouble ensued one night before turning in. I grabbed the weapon one last time before sleep to test the balance. I aimed at a Lyman case tumbler and dry fired to feel the thumb reach. The gun went off and my Lyman had a neat hole in it's side. There was also a hole in the wall. The load was approx 800 fps with a 250 gr cast so it didn't exit.

To say I was stunned is an understatement. I simply could not believe what had just happened. It was my fault all the way. I'd loaded the weapon because I was turning in- but forgot and tested it.

I ran across the house to assure my wife all was well, if not safe. She'd only heard a bang and thought a primer went off.

This happened in Summer and a window was open to the alley. That alley was bad place of feral cats and gangbangers. It was behind a burger stand and the cats loved it.

I knew the neighbors must have heard something. I turned out all the lights. Who knew what reaction the local cops might have? This was California- could I lose my 'right' to keep arms with an accidental discharge? How much money would this cost?

A police Cruser pulled up across the street. Two cops got out and searched the alley briefly. The sound had hit the wall of buildings and rebounded; the neighbor who called it in probably thought it was from the alley- just another gang banging incident. We had shots fired frequently in the hell hole of Fontana, Ca.

Never reload or shoot when tired. I added another rule- any gun I was working on could not be at the bedside for home protection- I kept the projects seperate from defense weapons after this.

I'm not proud of this. Perhaps this will remind some to be more carefull where I was not.

The modified Ruger- one of my two favorite packing guns, a SS 4.5/8" 45 colt.

The hole in the wall? I rented the house from the owner of the gun shop I managed. It needed some work. But all the hole needed was some crayony type goo the same color as the wall paper. I haven't seen this stuff since in Home supply but it worked great- you could not see the hole. I figure someday that bullet will be found and they'll wonder who was murdered. It was my Lyman case tumbler- never breathed again.


munk
 
Man-OH-Man munk my friend!

Glad no one was injured. Just goes to show that accidents
can and will happen; even too the best of us.

I sleep with a loaded weapon underneath my pillow; but
I never retrieve it for playful purposes!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
I sleep with one nearby, but not so close that I can reach it without some "head clearing". A deputy friend in NC used to sleep with his 4" Python under his pillow. He had inherited some expensive antique furniture, and his house was "over-furnished" while he sorted it out. A noise woke him at OhDarkThirty one morning, and he put a round through a dark figure in the corner of his bedroom. Turned out to be the reflection of a curtain moving in the breeze....a reflection in a $2000 antique mirror he had leaned in the corner temporarily.
 
And people call me paranoid because I check, double-check, and triple-check my firearms before cleaning, dry firing, or handling.....

Glad no one was hurt.
 
Thx for your candor munk .... it ain't easy to admit mistakes ....... but it sure gives us all a more than useful nudge to prevent compacency and carelessness creeping in.

You have done all the flagellation needed on yourself .. little need for us to criticize .. that's easy to do. Salutary event - but thank heaven no harm done.

Appreciate your sharing the episode.:)
 
Many times I have had to remind myself not to practice dryfiring late at nite. Your story helps reinforce that. Glad there were no serious consequences.
 
Haven't had a neglegent or accidental discharge yet, thankfully.


Had a close one once that involved a rifle that still had a round chambered after coming back from an outting, friend was about to test the trigger on the gun to compare it to my varmint rifle. Thankfully the safety was on and it didn't fire, I asked him to check the chamber since the safety was on and a round was ejected. Scared the hell out of me and now I have a super compulsive disorder whenever I'm leaving the range or packing it up to go home.


As for home defense firearms, I only have 2 that I keep for home defense. One AR15 and one shotgun, the others don't get loaded but that doesn't mean that I don't check them with the same overly compulsive disorder I use at the range.
 
Dad Gum Munk!!! You at least could have made the best of the opportunity and told your wife that if she ever gave you that look again........! Could have walked around the house with a twitch, studdered words like "I'm sick and tired...bla mumble bla", "Everyone better start listening to me, mumble bla bla $%#@&^" "Where's that damn dog"?

LOL :neener:
 
I could have run into the room screaming;

"They've come to get us! If we survive this, in God's name let me get an H-Bar."





munk
 
Thank you for the story. It's never easy to admit things like this, but I believe, as you hoped, that a lot of the people reading it may reflect on it before dry-firing, and maybe a few will end up popping out a round, thus saving other innocent tumblers.
 
Lamp with .357 GSW

Someone I know, Name is being withheld to protect the party, was dryfiring one night. Well he THOUGHT he was dryfiring. Now he has a really pretty green metal lamp with an entrance wound, covered by adhesive bandage, on one side and a big honkin' exit wound on the other.
The round fired also went throough a window and expended itself somewhere outside. No person was injured, but that lamp looks pretty funky.
Another reminder to be ever vigilant in checking chambers.
 
I know someone:uhoh: who put a round of birdshot into a wall at a distance of 6" when they were looking at Gpaa's guns one night.
Yep, that what they mean, finger now stays off the trigger.:banghead:
Tony
 
It takes a Big Man to openly post errors like this!!
Thank God that I have'nt had one yet! I try my darndest each time
I pick-up a weapon to manually check and clear if necessary (depending
on the situation).
I get so super complusive about it especially when I'm working on a firearm
until its all broken down!
It's not that I don't maintain several loaded firearms at all times, I do
(four) on average, and they all get extra hot potato treatment! ALL
family members (Adults,no young children in home) are aware that one
or more are loaded, ALL have handled firearms and if uncomfortable
would contact one more familar or a former law enforcement associate
if anything happened to me or if I was unavailable.
 
Though it's not for anybody, the Young get away with being sloppy because they're fast and have good memories. I'm 48 and don't even drive as fast as I used to. My eyes aren't as good.

There are three small children in my house, distraction aplenty, and I'm going to clear every gun as if I was behind the counter again. I simply don't have the resources to keep track of what's where- and I can imagine going shooting someday with my sons and having several weapons out.

The first accident was when I was into firearms for about a year and a half. Most everything I know is self taught to a large extent- I had liberal friends (long since disowning me- some wouldn't even come to my house knowing a GUN was inside.) My hiking buddy and shooting friend was also learning along side me. He was a engineer type, and on matters of space and physics, or just the brake pads in the truck, I deferred to him.

Never defer to anyone when your instincts shout NO.
We wanted to test a 41 against a small iron street cover for a gas line. It was about 7" across and had sides about the same. I was going to shoot at an angle so I wouldn't get hit. My buddy interceded and insisted the shot be directly center. Like a fool, I listened to him. My concerns were brushed aside- he was the engineer type. The shot bounced back and hit me in the forehead from about 15 feet away.

Initially I thought I was a goner. My skull was ringing a bit. But the remains of the hollow point had broken the skin, left a nice hole, and stopped against solid munk bone.

to this day there are some very small parts of bullet in my forehead.

If you thought the first confessional poignant, I guess this stops that. I am blessed by Powers that Care about Me, they call it Grace, I think, and am happy to be alive.

munk
 
If it was a cover for a gas line, doesn't that mean there was a gas line under it? I realize it probably wouldn't have gone thru, but was there a chance?

I guess getting shot in the head is a little worse though... Thanks for telling us.
 
Let me add something- there can be no third mistake.
..........

I've another friend who did not unchamber a round as he crept over a barbed wire fence while hunting. He fell, the 270 rifle spun around on the ground in front and hit a snag in the trigger guard. As he watched in horror- microseconds being infinite time, the barrel pointed at his chest and he knew he would die. But the gun continued its motion, and when it discharged, blew away his left hand instead. Hanging by threads, he made it to emergency care where they pronounced his hand gone.

Surgery saved the hand. It is still attached, albeit at a strange angle.

Such accidents are not uncommon in the Reservation where he lived at the time.
...........

The engineer type to this day now defers to me on all matters of shooting. As he should, as I'm the one who used to literally go to sleep with ballistics charts beside me on the table next to the bed. He is sorry for the accident. I put his name as the middle one in my second son's name.

I could easily start a thread about behaviors I've observed amongst hunters, that after seeing I will never hunt with again.

The mistakes this Fool survived occured many years ago now. It's too bad I didn't know of the Brotherhood of the Gun back then. We have much to teach every generation. Charlton Heston is right- it must be passed on.


munk
 
I suppose you might still defer to him on matters of space and brake pads, but I think you should find a new physics referee. ;)

Now you need to determine what your special calling is, 'cause somebody is definitely looking out for you. :D
 
That's funny; when I worked in a psych unit for many years my motto to many isolated and injured people was simply- "If a dolt like me can survive- so can you."


And no- the gas cover was lying in a junk yard in the desert.



munk
 
Ok, time for me to own up. Not an ND, but darned near one.

I was working on a Keltec pistol one night, fluffing and buffing, trying to figure out what's going wrong with it. Spent a couple of hours on the thing.

Time goes by, I'm sitting on the couch and I've got it clipped inside my pants to get used to the feel of the thing and see if it doesn't "agree" with me in certain positions. I'm reading up more on the pistol and how the trigger works so I retreive it from my pants, point it in a safe direction and give it a nice slow long pull.

Click.

Hmm, didn't feel any rough spots. Lets try that again. I rack the slide and the slide STOPS. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Look down into the port and whoa -- there's a live round that hung up feeding from me doing a slow slide rack.

OK, over to a safe corner, point gun in safe direction, unload pistol, clear jam, remind myself to check a gun EVERY SINGLE TIME I pick it up. I had loaded it in Condition 3 and forgot about it because I had been fiddling with it all night previously. Sat there for about 20 minutes wondering what kinda crap storm I'd have been in if I'd have discharged a round out my sliding glass door of the apartment.
 
I've another friend who did not unchamber a round as he crept over a barbed wire fence while hunting. He fell, the 270 rifle spun around on the ground in front and hit a snag in the trigger guard. As he watched in horror- microseconds being infinite time, the barrel pointed at his chest and he knew he would die.

Roughly the same thing happened to a guy near my hometown a few years back, except it was a 7mm magnum and it did catch him square in the chest:(
 
negligent discharge

rules,rules,rules: Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy. always treat every gun as if it were loaded. know your target and what is behind your target.
 
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