My Second Gun Accident

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"I didn't mean it man, I didn't know it was loaded."

Not my ND but I was associated with it for years.

I was set up at the Hartford City Indiana gun show about a month before the infamous Commander muzzle drop test.

My carry gun at that time was a Colt Lightweight Commander outfitted with the then new Colt ambidexterous satety. I had a regular customer who was interested in buying one and when he handled mine he commented on how much nicer the flat mainspring housing felt. Remember this was back around 1980 when only the Gold Cup came with a flat MSH.
I told him that so-and-so over in the corner from Missouri had some for sale.

He came back about 10 minutes later with one and asks if I can install his mainspring into the new housing for him. I tell him sure since it was that slow time in the early afternoon when most of the waiting for the doors to open guys are leaving and the after lunch crowd has just started to arrive. If fact I'll do it while he watches so he'll know how to do it incase he ever wants to switch it back.

He goes outside and gets his Colt Government. He takes it out of it's gun rug, drops the magazine and racks the slide. He then hands the gun to me. I check to make sure it's unloaded and he puts the mag back into the rug.

I field strip it. Which means the slide and barrel are off. It's definately unloaded. I swap out the mainspring housings. So far so good.
I reassemble the pistol. I check the bore out of habit.
Never know when you can sell a new barrel. ;)
It's fine so I finish reassembling.
It's still unloaded.
I rack the slide a few times to make sure the hammer strut has seated and everything feels smooth. Since I have dry fird it about 20 times I KNOW it's unloaded.

Oh yeah there's about a dozen lookie-loos hanging around since most of them have "never seen nobody fancyin' up a pistol before".

When I feel it's A-OK I start to hand it back to him. He has a wad of bills in his hand and asks me "How much for your time?"
I tell him "how about five-bucks". He hands me a $20 as I hand him his unloaded pistol.
I am getting his change as he's putting the pistol back in the rug. I think he popped the magazine back in about that time but I really wasn't looking since I was counting money.
One of the lookie-loos asks, "Does that make it shoot any better?"
"I say, ask him, it's his pistol."
It is only then that he realizes that he hasn't tried the feel yet. So he pulls it out, points it at the floor right in front of the table while I'm trying to find a five dollar bill to go with the ten.
He says, "Yeah this feels a lot better." and proceeds to cock the hammer and dry-fire.

Well friends and neighbors he dry-fired a round of WCC73 230gr FMJ right into the floor. :what:
The bullet bounced up under the table to the right of me and ended up in a cardboard box holding some other dealers empty soda cans. The funny part was that the ejected case hit me square in the chest. All I was aware of was a very loud boom and a flash of metal hitting me. They say I emitted a slightly high-pitched and very loud OH! and fell backwards into my chair. The dealer next to me on the left screamed, "He's been shot."

I now know how Moses felt back there at the red sea.
It seems that ½ of the people in the room were running away from my table while the other ½ were running toward it. I sat there for a moment trying to figure out why I wasn't bleeding profusely.

He stared at me, white as a ghost, and pleaded, "I didn't mean it man, I didn't know it was loaded."
Two deputies grabbed him and began to "escort" him away. I yelled at them to wait a minute.
"Hey buddy, you forgot your change."



Did y'all know that a .45 is so powerful that even the empty case will knock you down?
 
A good friend of mine had a similar occurance. He has 2 Model 66s, and was comparing the actions. Loaded one to go to work and 2 minutes later decided to compare just one more time. POW, a .357 diameter hole in the reloading bench.
 
I have to wonder Munk; this is your second negligent discharge, and you have learned your lesson. What happened after your first that prevented you from learning that lesson. not a flame, really, but wow.

BTW, a good story and another warning for everyone.
BOB
 
I hope you're wiser than I, Bobster.

If there is a lesson, it is that there is no 'one' lesson to be learned. It is a lifestyle, and as a Ruger Advertisment says, one must be ever vigilent, ever ready.

One can say, for instance, never point a weapon at a target you do not intend to shoot. Yet we know thousands of Gunsmiths and hobbyists dry fire testing themselves and their weapons at targets they have no intention of hitting. There are countless magazine articles on the virtues of the same.

I'm certain a legal argument could be made both incidents were 'negligent discharges, yet both were also very different.

In the first, we have ignorance of the physical qualities of projectiles. In the second, we have complacency. It is a fact that tired people do not always know they are tired. For many years I was an undiagnosed sleep apnea sufferer. What does this mean? Very little to me. I must take responsibility regardless- that's what owning and using firearms means.

I think a real mistake in reading of my idiocy is believing oneself removed from the possiblity of similar mistakes.

I believe we are safest when we know in our hearts and minds that it can happen here.


munk
 
101 Rounds

Went into my local Gunstore/Home Range one Saturday a while ago.

There in the "Used/ForSale/Consignment" Case was what appeared to be a like new S&W auto.

The Tag had a price and the Notation " 101 Rounds ".

I had to ask...
The Store personel all shook their heads and grinned
The Shop owner told me the story.

Guy came in and bought the gun new.
It was his first handgun.
Bought a couple of boxes (100 rounds) of ammo and took the new gun out back to the range to try it out.

Came back a while later all smiles.
Happy as a clam... Settled up and left.

Went home and was showing his mildly skeptical wife his new "Toy".

Promptly "launched one" through the Kitchen refridgerator!

He was back at the Store in less than an hour.
Put the gun on the counter, told his story and left saying"
"Send me a check for whatever you think its worth."

"One Hundred and One Rounds"
 
A Cop in Redlands Ca, had a child who was shot to death by an accidental discharge while handling Dad's service weapon. Dad became a legislator and fought for more gun laws. You living in Ca probably know who I am referring to.

An outfitter, who happened to be my best friend, raised three sons around loaded firearms throughout the home. The boys had access to weapons from the time they were out of diapers. Today they're Lawyers, Doctors and an Engineer. Yet occasionally from one of these type homes a kid dies. Then there is a cry about storage laws, safe gun handling, etc. What good answer is there to the question; "Why didn't you- (fill blank) ?"

The human brain is THE safety for all firearms. The brain can fail. Many of you think I'm a jackass and that's OK. I probably agree with you. But we live in a world where even a virtuous, intelligent, weapons-savy individual can die from gun or tool accident.

Has anyone in these forums ever had a loaded rifle in the truck while you were driving around the woods lookng for Game? Has anyone ever drank any amount of alcohol before or during shooting? Anyone ever hunted when they were absolutely dead beat? There are many scenarios, and in them all the question, "why didn't you?"

munk
 
I have been handling guns and involved with shooting activities for over 35 years and I cannot remember having a ND/AD yet. Maybe I am due for one but I hope not. I am very safety conscious, I think the term today is "anal" when it comes to gun handling as even if I am in the house alone and lay a gun down for a while, when I pick it up I check it as if it could have magically loaded itself. It has become a habit. I try to not get too many of my "toys" out at a time either.

I am glad no one was hurt and I hope this is the last accident you will have.
 
Munk, I'd just like to thank you for posting. I know we all get a good laugh at these stories, but it does help drill safety into your head. It proves that even the best of us can slip up from time to time.
 
Thanks, and ob:story

I'd like to add my thanks-- I'm new to owning my handgun, and hearing these stories reminds me that being safe isn't an "arrival", it's always a journey.

In Basic Training, one of my drill sergeants told us this story: He was trained as a Bradley gunner. His usual practice at the end of a live fire exercise was to target some other vehicle (another bradley) that was also going through the course and dry fire on it. He'd done it many times, but one night was about to do the same thing again, and something stopped him.

When his crew started cleaning up the vehicle, he was absolutely shocked to discover that he had one round left in the gun, and was so glad he hadn't actually pulled the trigger.

That was enough for him to never target anything but real enemies, ever again.
 
Thanks for the story of the Gunner, unix guy.

Those of you who offerred encouragment- Thank You. Thank you McNutt, Snug, selfdfnz, and others.


That's absolutely right about safety. It isn't 'done', it's not finished when the safety course or basic training or NRA coaching or whatever is finished.

Even writing this thread has motivated me to re-examine my current safety features at home. There are several things I'm going to change. There isn't a problem; but I can see one developing a couple of Right turns and a sudden Left down the road.

This brings me back to why I revere firearms and our freedoms so much; we earn them. Gun ownership has taught me more about reality and responsibility than any number of college courses.

Though these incidents happened a long time ago- they are fresh again.


munk
 
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