My TTAG article on the PT92.

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The Taurus PT-92AF Is Not Obscure, But I Sure Desired It Anyway

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In 1974, the Ministério da Defesa Brasileiro (Brazilian Ministry of Defense) awarded Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta the contract for their new 9x19mm service pistol, the Model 92. Part of that contract stipulated that Beretta build a factory in the country and hire Brazilians to manufacture the firearms, so that is exactly what happened.

Beretta set up a factory in São Paulo, Brazil and began to crank out Model 92 pistols for the Brazilian Army. In 1980, the contract expired and Beretta was left with a decision. Do they continue to make Model 92 pistols in Brazil or shutter the plant? Beretta went with a third option; they sold the entire package to Forjas Taurus S/A lock, stock, and barrel.

Taurus already had 39 years of manufacturing history under their belt at that point, starting with their Model 38101SO Revolver in 1941. So acquiring a fully equipped facility and well trained staff that is able to manufacture what was then one of the newest 9mm duty handguns for the Army was a no brainer.

Taurus moved the original Beretta tooling to its factory in the town of Porto Alegre. Which is about 700 miles south of São Paulo. And with that, the Taurus PT-92 was born.

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Taurus PT-99 on the left, Beretta Model 92 on the right.

Originally, the PT-92 was a direct continuation of the Beretta 92. The only thing Taurus changed at first was adopting the "combat" trigger guard before Beretta. But everything else was the same. Same barrel, same grips, same safety, same magazine, etc.

Yet not long after the deal was made Beretta began eyeing another military contract. They were going after the America's XM9 contract to replace the old slab slide in .45 ACP. We can get into whether that was a good move or not another time. We all know that Beretta won that contract. Part of that contract required Beretta to move the magazine release to the spot we are used to, right behind the trigger guard. With that contract, the Italian Stallion got a "combat" trigger guard too.

Seeing this, Taurus updated the PT-92 to be like its Italian cousin. They also moved the magazine release behind the trigger guard. But they did it in their own way. Hence why today, Taurus and Beretta magazines aren't interchangeable.

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Beretta magazine on the left, Taurus mag on the right. Both are 15rds in capacity.

But enough about the history of the gun and how it came into existence right? Let's get down to the brass tacks.

Why exactly did I want a PT-92AF? Basically because I'm a huge Beretta fan. I have a gaggle of various Model 92FS pistols in different configurations and I always wanted a Taurus because of the frame-mounted safety.

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What I lusted after, the frame mounted safety.

But I wanted a specific Taurus, you see. I wanted one that was still made on the original Beretta tooling by the Beretta-trained staff.

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Late 1980s Taurus print ad.

I wanted a gun from the era of that advertisement or just after.

In 1997, Taurus radically started to change the PT-92 via numerous cost-cutting measures in manufacturing. Gone were the blued and nickel finishes, the fine slide serrations, and the machined parts from forgings. All were replaced with plastic and MIM parts. Further on down the line, they added their safety lock too. I didn't want any of that.

No, what I wanted was this . . .

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My PT-92AF, made prior to the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban has all the features I wanted. No plastic or MIM parts to be found.

Made in the early 90s, this particular PT-92AF is just right. It has the frame-mounted ambi-safety which also functions as a decocker, the crisp, fine slide serrations along with the nice blued finish on the slide. All in all, I'm happy with her.

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The barrel, guide rod, and locking block all are swappable between Taurus and Beretta.

She takes down like every other Beretta and I've even swapped out some parts from my Beretta bin. The guide rod is from Beretta. The factory one is stainless and that went to another gun of mine, my 96G Brigader Elite II. The stainless guide rod looks better there.

Honestly, the gun screams quality. Comparing it to my Berettas, I really see no difference. The gun is the physical manifestation of the promise in this early 90s era ad.

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Taurus ad showing off their new stainless .40 S&W chambered PT-100.

I'm a sucker for John Woo films, too. Both the Taurus PT-92 and Beretta 92 get plenty of screen time. Both the Taurus and Beretta just look good on the silver screen.

"I feel the Beretta is a great character," he says seriously. "It's so strong and elegant. The other guns look dumb to me." - John Woo, SPLICED Magazine, June 16, 1997 at the Ritz Hotel in San Francisco.

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PT-92 in Hard Boiled.

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Chow Yun-Fat in The Killers with a PT-92.

The gun handles just as nicely on the range too. The sights are typical of the classic 92 pattern. They're still crisp, rugged, and useful.

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The sights are still capable.

I had no problem with it at the 20-yard line at Talon Range in Midway, Florida.

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I think the target speaks for itself.

A lot of people talk Taurus guns down. Well, I can tell you that this gun eats everything without a hiccup. No malfunctions whatsoever and I used the two original 15-round magazines made prior to the Clinton ban.

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All in all, I am very satisfied with this PT-92AF and I'm glad to have her in my stable. The quality and craftsmanship in this gun rivals that of my Berettas. So don't turn your nose at a Taurus if you run across one. The early 1990s era guns are real diamonds in the rough.
 
Nice article. Thank you for sharing.

I have one too. I bought it in 89 or 90. It still shoots just fine. I should replace this terrible picture. The old girl still looks pretty good in person. (Mine is the version with adjustable sights.)

 
The Tauri of the ‘90’s are one of the wondrous value flukes of my gun nut career, particularly the revolvers. Very nice guns. Only kept two, as I traded the others towards the acquisition of more prestigious brands (well, S&Ws and Rugers). Probably a mistake, especially those 431’s. But the 85CH and the 2.5” 65 aren’t going anywhere.
 
How funny... I just stumbled across that article today and was going to note it to you after your comparison post in another PT92 thread.

Todd.
 
Great article. I have a 1992 PT-99 with nickel finish. It is my favorite range pistol.
 
I've had a 92 and 99 for decades, no problems except for some foreign ammunition with extra hard primers. I have revolvers from that period also. Skipped the "New ones", I heard too many problems. The TX22 is a real winner. The G3 also. 2 XTX22.jpg B Taurus.jpg .
 
I have had both a beretta and a Taurus at the same time. Did that intentionally to compare them before deciding which one to let go of. I had made that mistake shortly before when I let a Taurus 689 go for a gp100 and eventually a 686. Honestly the Ruger and S&W guns did nothing any better than the 689 and the 689 did it cheaper and more accurately, and I have regretted it ever since. With the 92s I ran them through every functional test I could imagine for a 9mm and I once again found that the Taurus stood toe to toe with its competitors. I like the frame mounted safety because the slide mounted safety is an awkward reach. The decocker is nice but I have never learned to trust it. The only upside for the beretta is popularity and aftermarket accessories, but most things can be modded easily enough to work with the Taurus. The Taurus was once again more accurate. I have since traded in and out of PT99 pistols and currently have one of the classics, no tactical rail, blued, with the nicer variant of wood grips. This one isn’t going anywhere.
 
I just went down a funny rabbit-hole regarding this thread.

Looking for a particular regarding PT-92s, (whether of not any were ever issued Service Pistols) my usual search parameters swayed me to the PT-92 Higgins boat that was made here during WWII, sent to Russia, stopped in England due to convoy shut-downs, used by England as an MTB and eventually sold to Italy for coastal duties.

Anyhow, I still don't know if any of the Taurus PT92s were ever an *issue* side arm.

Does anyone know?

Todd.
 
I've been a Taurus fan for over 30 years. My first was a PT99AF was in 88. It costs me about half of what a Beretta cost at the time.

FWIW, I was in a class at FLETC in 1989. Jim Cirillo was the instructor. The question came up which is the best 9mm. Cirillo made comments on them all. He said the only one he found that had the out of the box accuracy he liked was the Taurus. The accuracy he liked was consistent 50 yd headshots. Later that day I saw him do it.
 
I've been a Taurus fan for over 30 years. My first was a PT99AF was in 88. It costs me about half of what a Beretta cost at the time.

FWIW, I was in a class at FLETC in 1989. Jim Cirillo was the instructor. The question came up which is the best 9mm. Cirillo made comments on them all. He said the only one he found that had the out of the box accuracy he liked was the Taurus. The accuracy he liked was consistent 50 yd headshots. Later that day I saw him do it.
He was STILL there? I took the Firearms Instructor Class there in 1986 and I thought he said he was retiring in 1987. What a great guy! The stories he had from NYC. He was funny as hell and you had to shake your head and remember he was a stone killer.
 
I just went down a funny rabbit-hole regarding this thread.

Looking for a particular regarding PT-92s, (whether of not any were ever issued Service Pistols) my usual search parameters swayed me to the PT-92 Higgins boat that was made here during WWII, sent to Russia, stopped in England due to convoy shut-downs, used by England as an MTB and eventually sold to Italy for coastal duties.

Anyhow, I still don't know if any of the Taurus PT92s were ever an *issue* side arm.

Does anyone know?

Todd.
I’d bet money that they were issued in Brazil at some point for police depts etc if not the army
 
He was STILL there? I took the Firearms Instructor Class there in 1986 and I thought he said he was retiring in 1987. What a great guy! The stories he had from NYC. He was funny as hell and you had to shake your head and remember he was a stone killer.

I first met Jim when he was still with NYPD and knew him when he went to work for Customs.
 
I just went down a funny rabbit-hole regarding this thread.

Looking for a particular regarding PT-92s, (whether of not any were ever issued Service Pistols) my usual search parameters swayed me to the PT-92 Higgins boat that was made here during WWII, sent to Russia, stopped in England due to convoy shut-downs, used by England as an MTB and eventually sold to Italy for coastal duties.

Anyhow, I still don't know if any of the Taurus PT92s were ever an *issue* side arm.

Does anyone know?

Todd.
The Brazilian Armed Forces and number Law Enforcement Agencies issued the PT92 as has some other nations.
 
It's good to see positive comments on the PT-92 Taurus pistols, so many make such foolish disparaging remarks about them.

I have Taurus pistols in both 9mm and .40 as well as Berettas (also in both cal.) and in every measurable way the Taurus are the equal of Beretta and better in a few aspects...

The frame decocker is superior to anything Beretta has offered that I know of. Also the decocker profile on the Taurus is slim, AND the slide stop can easily be engaged / disengaged with the right thumb, not so for my "sainted" Beretta 92X performance, it has to be applied with the left thumb. Lastly the SS finish on my PT92 would be a several hundred dollar uplift on a gun like a CZ 75 but Beretta offers nothing like it.

My Beretta frame mounted 92X performance IMO SHOULD have had the safety and decocker that the Taurus have. As it is decocking the 92X necessitates a right thumb pinch under the rear sight, and with it's general unwieldy handling a tyro could have an AD.

Funny some mention the adoption of the "combat" trigger guard on Taurus, but NEVER mention that Beretta removed it on the pricey 92X performance. Such snobbery :)
 
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Second thoughts on "other" Beretta clones. The Girsan and other less well known attempts brought nothing to the table to improve on the Beretta design. The same/same slide mounted safety is there on them all.

Taurus is in a class by itself and the potential for it is IMO great!

If If Taurus were to make a steel framed original PT92, with better Beretta parts compatibility like the mag release and grips (any patents and IP are long expired) I think they'd do really well. Better still if they slimmed that stronger steel frame, ditched the rail and made the mags compatible with CZ or Tanfoglio mags I'd be first in line to buy two.
 
Those frame mounted safety/decockers were hands down better than any berreta variant. I liked dad's PT92 when he had one back in the late 80s. Sad that he traded it off for something because I would have bought it.
 
"Honestly the Ruger and S&W guns did nothing any better than the 689, and the 689 did it cheaper..."

Me too, but I kept the 689.

I've had some mediocre Taurus handguns, but I've also owned some that were pretty smooth. My PT99 still shoots well after 30 years of use.

 
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