NAA mini-revs are they good enough quality for CCW?

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I can almost postively garuantee that nobody (mainly criminals) have ever said, "No, I'm fine officer, he only shot me with a .22, let's go to jail!"

It's designed to be a last resort, handy little, "attitude adjustment". I have no doubt that it will do the trick when the trigger is squeezed. Don't underestimate the power of that "teeny" round.
 
There is nothing wrong with the quality. Shootability may be another matter. I would not carry one for my only armament. The Black Widow, a .22 Mag. with a two-inch barrel, sights and a larger grip, might make a reasonable backup gun.
 
I do believe Dick Casull invented them things
I know for a fact some few do have his name stamped on 'em
no idea how/when they got to be NAA Black Widows or whatever
seems like they have been around ever since gawd was a small child

Casull, interesting fellow
454
American 180
micro stuff like this
Freedom Arms
innovative guy, whatever notion he grabs onto, cannot ever say he does a sloppy job on it



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not for me, got no use for 'em, go figger, would not carry one for self defense "if my life depended on it"
but, hey, I have some some of that stuff too !
in similar/same class
"for the child within"
can't claim it ain't so
 
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Back in North Carolina some bad guys jumped a highway patrolman. We are talking about 25 years. They took his gun and cuffed him. They missed the NA mini 22. he had in behind his back I don't remember if it was in his pocket or what. He pulled the gun and shot and killed the first bad guy. at that point the second took off running. He was saved by the lowly 22 NA mini. Don't write it off as a good back up. Also don't forget the guy in south africa that fought off the guys with one.
 
I always did 'favor' the old Hi-Standard DA derringer over the NAA thing
always wanted one in 22 WMR
ran across the 22LR version NIB local way-back-when
still got it
used to carry it fishin' w/ couple of 22 shot shells in it for snake
until I concluded it sure wasn't no 410 on snakes

shoot it about once a year, just because
never did get the WMR
seen some in 22 WMR that had been actually shot a fair amount
good example of what an aluminum frame ain't... more's the pity
gave up the notion of 22WMR in that
still prone to think the Hi-Standard is a far more reliable and more shootable design, even though just two shots
would not take on a zombie invasion with either one
not real opposed to 22WMR as defense for some occasions, even though I don't do that
but not anything that small, not anything not a whole lot more shootable

even it came down to NO choice but only two, no other options, would take Beretta 25 acp over either.. and we all know what 25 acp ain't

LOUD, yes
6" AutoMag II or 6" S&W in 22 WMR plenty LOUD, even louder still out of too little barrel
great substitute for centerfire practice round, though
and a hoot to shoot
and gun enough for SD if/when the shooter is ill suited to centerfire, even w/ the loud factor
BGs notice loud and flame, too
have had guys ask me at range if that (AMT) was a real skinny 9, or what
 
Quality is there.

It is a fine work of art.

However, the chambering is IMO in the mouse gun class.

I would consider the NAA Mini to be a tertiary backup (e.g. it would be the last ditch if your primary and backup guns fail).

Think of the NAA Mini as an automatic ice pick (it has very short range and makes tiny holes, but it can be effective if you hit the right spot).
 
I think no doubt craftmanship wise they are awesome pieces. I think they feel a ninche for those who need the absolute smallest gun they can trust. I enjoy shooting mine. I find it fun. It has come in handy while walking when a copperhead decided it wanted to come a little to close to where we were playing. I wanted one of these for years. I finally gave in and got the 1 5/8" conversion cyl. No doubt it will do its part if I do mine. I like the fact that ammo is readily available and cheap even in 22 mag. I enjoyed bouncing sweetgums with the 22lr. I am trying to convince myself to keep mine. I have found that I can conceal it as well as my P32. I have had my P32 and trust it 100% for reliability. I find I can shoot it faster and am afraid I would have a hard time cylcling the mini when push came to shove. I can unload 7 - 73gr bullets quicker that 5-30gr and less chance of fumbling. I dont know just some random thoughts. The mini is awesome for what it is.
 
There is no doubt about both the quality and reliability; the power is adequate if the bullet is put in the right place. My problem is the size. I have handled those guns and would be very much afraid of not getting a good grip on it when a problem arose. The last thing I would want to do is draw, try to cock the gun, fumble and see the gun skidding across the floor to stop at the BG's feet. Not good at all!

Yes, I know, practice, etc. But I just feel better with a larger gun, even if it is a .22, and one that has a DA trigger.

(For deep cover, I would prefer a .25 auto, but the NAA would be OK.)

Jim
 
In No Second Place Winner, legendary Bill Jordan recommended the .22 Magnum as a back-up round, though he was thinking of the J-Frame S&W chambered for the round. And it definitely beats the larger-caliber gun you don't have WTSHTF.

My only reservation comes from the fact they are single-action revolvers, which slows follow-up rounds. That's why I would still stick with my S&W Airweight.
 
Out of curiosity, do you guys that carry that little gem in your pockets keep it in some sort of holster??
If not is there a possibility of it going off?
I suppose it's single action yes or no?
 
My only reservation comes from the fact they are single-action revolvers, which slows follow-up rounds. That's why I would still stick with my S&W Airweight.

I can fire single action pretty danged fast. Depends on the shooter, I reckon.

Out of curiosity, do you guys that carry that little gem in your pockets keep it in some sort of holster??
If not is there a possibility of it going off?
I suppose it's single action yes or no?

It is possible that you could bump up against something and hit a cartridge rim on an unprotected NAA as the rounds are exposed at the back of the gun. I have a holster/grip on mine, folds up like a lock blade knife and locks in position when open. Just flip it and it's open. I've carried it that way for 25 yards and once open, it give me a full grip to control the gun. Even has a belt clip on it to clip to the top of my shirt when wad fishing. That grip helps protect the exposed rims from any external whacks, so it's a bit of a safety device, too. Any NAA I buy is going to get a holster grip. I may be the only one on this board that uses one, seems like no one even knows about the holster grip let alone how great they work, but they really work well. Almost as concealable in a pocket, yet total control of the gun with a full grip. The gun isn't much bigger than without it once folded and it rides in a pocket quite well, like a lock blade knife.

I carry the gun fully loaded with the hammer down on a safety notch. I've seen people complain that theirs had worked out of the safety notch and they carry on an empty chamber, but I've never had that happen in 25 years of carry, so it's not something I worry about.

I'm getting a super companion and have ordered THIS for it.....

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Here's my .22....

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I carry mine in a small kydex pocket holster as well. I have the hammer lowered into the notch and feel confident of its safety. I have never sold a gun before and I really want to like it. I think I may let it go to be able to finance a J frame purchase.
 
I have had one for 23 years. It has gone with me places that I would've been unable to carry anything else. 1) it has good quality
2) it is a contact distance weapon. Mine gives a 5 ft pattern @ 5 ft.
3) it is a safe queen mostly
I've often thought of getting a mini=master for backpacking, but have never followed through with that thought.
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Very high quality but shootability takes getting used to and is nearly impossible if you have large hands. The foldable grip/holster is a good concept, but it actually makes the NAA mini MUCH bulkier. I have one but never installed it. One is better off with the P32 -vs- the grip/holster attachment. I know, because I have both.
 
They are hard to hold, but I have a with the wallet holder and It works well. I got it for jogging and am real happy with it.
 
Well fwiw I think one of those with the nifty folding grip/holster would make a great gift for someone who hikes,fishes or likes to take long motorcycle rides in the country side.
Like me!!
Think what you want of it but I like it.
 
i carry a pug in my back pocket in a custom holster 24/7
as a secondary or primary depending on where i am
a lot of times in my work my g32 has to stay in the truck or home
 
BTW, the NAA is has very reliable ignition. If it misfires, it sure ain't the gun. I change out the ammunition in mine regularly. I've gone to the range before and tried to fire it after it'd been in my sweaty pocket for several months of summer and got all five misfires. With fresh ammo every couple of weeks, it never misses a beat. :D threaten me with a knife and see what happens.

And, btw, I carry mine in my weak side pocket. My strong side pocket usually contains my primary (nine or .38) or the back up to my belt gun. There's always the chance that I could be wrestling with someone and only have my left hand free. At wrestling range, screw it in his ear and let him have the full benefit of the noise. :D


My incident was too long ago for me to remember if the ammo was fresh or not (I do remember that they were HP Stingers) but it was in Miami so sweaty pockets were a possiblity.

I don't care; I picked up a .25 Jetfire and never looked back.
 
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Anyone have any experience with the laserlyte on these, I put one on a magnum barely got it on and adjusted and my daughter ran off with it. Got another one coming from The ammo bunker [$77] I am looking for a watch pocket holster for a magnum plus laser, or will the folding grip be enough?
 
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