Need a strong & reliable 9mm; Ruger or Beretta?
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scubasteve
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lol (really my answer would be sig, but just to follow the trend)
Walther P99
Kahr PM9
Springfield XD 9
Walther P99
Kahr PM9
Springfield XD 9
BlackJack
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If Rugers and Berettas are what you have to choose from, you already know the answer. Both are suitable--Ruger is cheaper--Beretta has a better reputation but is better. I'd buy a Beretta.
If you're set on either of those two, my vote goes to the Ruger. I have 6,000 rounds through my P95 without a single problem.
I second the vote for the CZ75 too. Fine gun for a little more money.
BTW, I paid $349 for my Ruger, and then got a $40 rebate from Ruger on it.
And I live in Maryland; land of outrageous gun prices.
I second the vote for the CZ75 too. Fine gun for a little more money.
BTW, I paid $349 for my Ruger, and then got a $40 rebate from Ruger on it.
And I live in Maryland; land of outrageous gun prices.
dhoomonyou
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Glock
hollowpointt
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reliable
How about an H&K USP9. Price shop, you should be able to come close to the price of a Beretta. The HK in my opinion is a far superior firearm, and worth a little extra.
How about an H&K USP9. Price shop, you should be able to come close to the price of a Beretta. The HK in my opinion is a far superior firearm, and worth a little extra.
Among the two, it's prob slightly harder to hurt a Ruger. Or any Ruger, for that matter. Not that the the Beretta is a pansy, by any means. Any particular reason you're looking for something extra strong?
I like Ruger's revolvers, but not their semis - too funky and blocky. I handled a new P345 last weekend - blech! Now it's just a skinny, ugly and non-ergonomic (for my hand) brick. I had a P95 for a while - a very reliable firearm. It's gone, but I wouldn't sell my Beretta 92 Centurion.
I like Ruger's revolvers, but not their semis - too funky and blocky. I handled a new P345 last weekend - blech! Now it's just a skinny, ugly and non-ergonomic (for my hand) brick. I had a P95 for a while - a very reliable firearm. It's gone, but I wouldn't sell my Beretta 92 Centurion.
outofbattery
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I really don't think there's much anything in it in terms of function when comparing virtually any current , quality production autos : virtually every Sig , Beretta , Glock , CZ , Ruger , HK , Smith , Browning ... is going to go bang when you want it and place a chunk of copper and lead where it is aimed . Buy whatever strikes your fancy and fits your hands best and be happy . Unless you're just dead set on the Beretta or Ruger do some shopping around and you might be surprised at what you like and for what price . As an example , I hadn't really considered an SW99 but after handling one - and seeing the $359 price tag - it really changed my mind .
misANTHrope
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I like my P94, and for the price, I personally think it can't be beat. However, I am a bit unhappy with the location of both the safety and slide release- I have to shift my grip to hit either of them with the shooting hand. If I had it to do over again, I think I'd take a closer look at the CZ75B. But this is not meant at all to imply that I'm disappointed in my Ruger.
When you say strong do mean you'll be falling off of mountains and being dragged behind trucks strong or just strong as in won't fall apart? If it is the latter, you cannot go wrong with any of the big names:
Ruger
Beretta
Sig
Glock
H&K
Springfield
CZ
and so on.
I can't think of any 9mms there that have a bad reputation for reliability or lasting ability. The only questions at that point are which one is better in your hand. They will all feed reliably, all shoot accurately, and all last a long long time. I would even throw Taurus and Smith & Wesson in there with some exceptions (Sigma anyone?).
The question is not what we like more, the question is what do you like more.
Ruger
Beretta
Sig
Glock
H&K
Springfield
CZ
and so on.
I can't think of any 9mms there that have a bad reputation for reliability or lasting ability. The only questions at that point are which one is better in your hand. They will all feed reliably, all shoot accurately, and all last a long long time. I would even throw Taurus and Smith & Wesson in there with some exceptions (Sigma anyone?).
The question is not what we like more, the question is what do you like more.
Flashpoint
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Out of the two I'd say Ruger. They have earned a rep for being built like a tank for a reason.
Heysoos
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choices...
I've gotta go with the Ruger. My P95 is, as others have already pointed out, built like a tank and won't quit. I've heard stories of people with thousands and thousands and thousands of round thru em. For the money, I don't think it could be beat. Keep in mind, they're not really designed for concealed carry (unless you're a relatively big person), but if you want a great gun for the nightstand, you've found it.
I've gotta go with the Ruger. My P95 is, as others have already pointed out, built like a tank and won't quit. I've heard stories of people with thousands and thousands and thousands of round thru em. For the money, I don't think it could be beat. Keep in mind, they're not really designed for concealed carry (unless you're a relatively big person), but if you want a great gun for the nightstand, you've found it.
Penforhire
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Ruger has the tougher reputation. Early examples were "bulletproof" while the same could not be said for Beretta's early wondernine.
GroovedG19
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HK P2000.
CZ52GUY
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Both have notoriously awkward DA pulls. My P95DC can't be fired by everyone...one guy I let try it just couldn't make it work. Beretta operational controls can be awkward for some hands...I found this to be true when handling at a gun shop.
Both have their following around here...if they fit the user, great!
Autoloaders are about ergonomics, they're like shoes...they need to fit or you will be miserable.
Take your time, check out both. Rent them if you can. Try to go beyond simple SA practice to verify accuracy and feel from the shooting position. Try some DA/SA transitions. Operate the controls. If permissable...simulate some draw from holster exercises (if needs be, start at low ready). Safety on/safety off. Acquire, shoot, safety back on and/or apply decocker after shooting.
Consider some of the good alternatives suggested. Consider how you expect to use it...a bench gun simply for practice is different than a competition gun which may be different from a carry piece.
If politics is important to you, some consider the Ruger company to have betrayed the 2nd Amendent cause. The late Bill Ruger once said "...no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in a magazine", or something to that effect. Ruger was largely supportive of the Clinton Ban. Some believe that no honest man would tell another honest man how many rounds he needs to defend loved ones, life, limb, and property. I bought my Rugers without the benefit of that knowledge. How that knowledge influences your decision is completely up to you.
Good luck, and safe shooting,
CZ52'
Both have their following around here...if they fit the user, great!
Autoloaders are about ergonomics, they're like shoes...they need to fit or you will be miserable.
Take your time, check out both. Rent them if you can. Try to go beyond simple SA practice to verify accuracy and feel from the shooting position. Try some DA/SA transitions. Operate the controls. If permissable...simulate some draw from holster exercises (if needs be, start at low ready). Safety on/safety off. Acquire, shoot, safety back on and/or apply decocker after shooting.
Consider some of the good alternatives suggested. Consider how you expect to use it...a bench gun simply for practice is different than a competition gun which may be different from a carry piece.
If politics is important to you, some consider the Ruger company to have betrayed the 2nd Amendent cause. The late Bill Ruger once said "...no honest man needs more than 10 rounds in a magazine", or something to that effect. Ruger was largely supportive of the Clinton Ban. Some believe that no honest man would tell another honest man how many rounds he needs to defend loved ones, life, limb, and property. I bought my Rugers without the benefit of that knowledge. How that knowledge influences your decision is completely up to you.
Good luck, and safe shooting,
CZ52'
pauli
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whatever fits your hand best... and i'd try a few others as well, as neither the ruger or beretta are known for having human hands as part of the design spec.
axeman_g
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neither
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The S&W 5906 has a better fit and trigger pull than either.
So does the Sig P228.
If you don't mind Plastic guns, the Glock 19 is the best 9mm out there.
The Walther P99 is right behind it as is the new H&K P2000.
The Ruger P89 is a good solid pistol, and fits most people better than a Beretta (which is WAY oversized for a 9mm) but still a bit large.
The CZ75 series is also excellent.
So does the Sig P228.
If you don't mind Plastic guns, the Glock 19 is the best 9mm out there.
The Walther P99 is right behind it as is the new H&K P2000.
The Ruger P89 is a good solid pistol, and fits most people better than a Beretta (which is WAY oversized for a 9mm) but still a bit large.
The CZ75 series is also excellent.
Gunsnrovers
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There are just far too many quality semi-auto's out there. Just try to find a place to try as many as you can and get the one you like. So long as it's of quality from a major manufacturer, I just don't see how you can go wrong with any of the suggestions above.
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