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Neighborhood Kid with AK is Wreaking Havoc!!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Bainx, Mar 12, 2004.

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  1. Bainx

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    Just over a mile from my house, a 16 yr. old with an AK has shot and killed a deputy sherriff after having beat up his [the suspect's] mother early in the morning.

    I can't believe that CNN and other majors, have blacked-out this story. This has been going on since early this morning. The kid has over 200 law enforcement people including BATF, SWAT teams, sherriffs, U.S. Marshalls totally baffled and held at bey. He has wounded at least three SWAT team members trying to get to him. There are several helicopters buzzing around and a number of other suspect vehicles chased down and pulled over during the day, according to what I am hearing on the scanner. There are police from at least three surrounding counties lending assistance in this matter.

    One possible kicker....the 16 year old who is holed-up in a house, is the son of a Loudon County district attorney. They are trying to make a peacefull settlement to this. Stay tuned.

    Prayers from the community are out to the wife of the killed deputy. She is to give birth at any minute today.
     
  2. Cosmoline

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    Actually I find it a good sign that they news hounds haven't started flying choppers overhead. It's far better for them to stay back until things have been resolved.

    I do have to wonder--don't these LEO's have some long guns? They aren't trying to go up against an AK or AK semi clone with handguns are they?!?! I hope not, man I hope not. Short and one sided ain't in it.
     
  3. FPrice

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    "http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1110&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040312%2F1958512725.htm&sc=1110

    Tenn. Sheriff's Deputy Killed in Shooting
    By DUNCAN MANSFIELD

    LENOIR CITY, Tenn. (AP) - A heavily armed teen shot and killed a deputy sheriff responding to a domestic violence call Friday, then held about 150 officers at bay while hunkered down inside his family's lakeside home, authorities said.

    Officers were unable to approach the house because of heavy gunfire coming from the home. The 16-year-old had semiautomatic weapons with multiple 30-round magazines, said Knox County Sheriff Tim Hutchison.



    ``At this point, the only response we see out of him is when he starts shooting at officers he sees,'' said Hutchison, who said officers plan to try to wait the teen out of the house. ``And we hope he will come to some realization that he needs to come out and he needs to surrender.''

    The suspect first attacked his mother during a morning fight, then fired on officers who were called to the house.

    Deputy Jason Scott, a three-year veteran of the sheriff's department, was killed after getting hit four times by bullets. Four other officers received minor injuries from debris as the teenager shot at them when they hid behind a woodpile. The officers have been treated and are OK, police said.

    ``He has about as much inside the house as we do outside,'' Hutchison said.

    Authorities said the boy, who has not been named, is still alive. A SWAT team once made it into the garage before turning back.

    ``The only thing we've got out of the house is gunfire,'' said Knox County Chief Deputy Dwight VanDeVate. ``We are still hopeful we get some positive outcome, but we have had absolutely no success whatsoever in establishing contact with the suspect.''

    The shooting occurred about 8:30 a.m. as two Loudon County deputies answered a domestic call at the home. The sheriff's office had received a call from the boy's mother at a neighbor's house saying that she and her son had fought, Guider said.

    ``Deputies answered the call not knowing there were any weapons in the house. Officer Scott was the first one to arrive and was shot as he stepped out of the car,'' Hutchinson said.

    The second officer pulled up, saw his colleague's body, retreated as shots were fired and called for backup. Officers from several counties and the Tennessee Highway Patrol were later called to the scene.

    Robots sent into the house were rebuffed by obstacles set up inside the house. Officers also shot tear gas inside but there was no response. The teen was not responding to calls or to efforts to reach him through a PA system.

    Officers were able to remove the body of the slain officer, whose wife is expecting their first child. Through tears, Guider described Scott as ``a wonderful young man, very lively, very friendly, very outgoing.''
     
  4. MagKnightX

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    I dunno. I don't mean to be callous, if that's the right word, but this reeks of that DiFi/Brady plot to get the AWB extended that we've all been worrying about.

    It's not at all hard to bribe a 16-year-old into doing something tremendously stupid.
     
  5. MicroBalrog

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    Like beating up his own mother ?

    Zippo lighter, anyone?
     
  6. MagKnightX

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    In many of my friends, I've noticed a severe animosity towards their parents. Some, I would not be surprised if they came to blows. Some, it might just require a C-note or two.

    Bainx: Do you mean Loudon County, VA? Or is there one in TN?
     
  7. Politically Incorrect

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    They only do that when there is a group of children with assault style weapons.
     
  8. Wildalaska

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    Tinfoil hat time

    WildgimmeabreakAlaska
     
  9. Langenator

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    This kid has apparently read up some on police/SWAT tactics. Obstacles set up inside the house to stop robots? That shows planning. Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit and those obstacles are to slow down any SWAT guys entering, and just happen to have the bonus effect of stopping the robots.

    So, he's got at least one AK-clone semi-auto rifle (excuse me, but where does a 16 year old get such things?), lots of ammo (ditto), and he's got obstacles inside the house, and just probably a gas mask, too. Either the kid's been planning, or he's improvising with a lot of things in his favor.


    This is like the Antis' wet dream-DiFi's AWB, Kennedy's AP ammo ban, and Boxer's trigger lock bill all in one.
     
  10. WonderNine

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    I bet Fox News picks this up before CNN does if either do at all.
     
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    Hey, I was pretty knowledgeable about such things when I was his age. Means nothing.
     
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    My heart sinks to one level lower ....... chances are this punk will die .. just a matter of time because it does not sound like he is taking prisoners.

    And after it all ... the mess and tragic loss ... yeah, another field day for anti's. Give them one inch even and they'll make a yard out of it ... and assault will, I guarantee be headline.:(
     
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    This piece of dirt killed a Loudon County Sheriff's Deputy in cold blood as the deputy was stepping out of his car to answer a Domestic Violence call.

    Every SWAT team in this area code is congregating in front of that house at the moment. Knoxville PD SWAT, Maryville PD SWAT, Knox County and Loudon County SWAT, THP SWAT, and every law enforcement agency outside of TN Wildlife Resource Agency are on the scene.

    These are not federal kitten-stompers, the victim is a county deputy who is about to become a father post-humously.

    The subject hit his mother over the head with a pipe because she wouldn't let him take his car to school. The mother fled to the neighbor's house, where she placed a call to 911. The deputy was shot four times as he exited his car.

    What is this world coming to?

    :(
     
  14. MicroBalrog

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    And why can't they treat a murderer the same way they do someone who cuts a shotgun below limited length?

    I mean, sure this kid is still technically a child, but still...
     
  15. Bainx

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    MagKnightX, it is Loudon County, Tennessee.

    Yes, Marko Kloos this kid has to be some kind of dirt-bag to beat up his own mother. It was revealed that she stopped him from driving his car because of the huge drunk he pulled the night before. He evidently was in too poor a shape to drive to school.

    Sad.
     
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    I don't mean to be disrespectful, but someone needs
    to step up and kill this kid; before he kills again! :(

    Sounds like it could be a druggie, hopped up on PCP. I
    once encountered one of these during my days as a LEO;
    and after several strikes from an ASP, it still took six of
    us to wrestle this thug down. "Freeze+P" had NO effect
    on this idiot! :uhoh: ;)

    I express my deepest sympathy and condolences to the
    family of the slain deputy, and his unborn child. May GOD
    speed to their rescue!

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
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    The local NBC affiliate has it up. http://www.wbir.com/News/news.asp?ID=17418

    Kid is now ID'd as Michael Harvey, son of county ADA Frank Harvey. Apparently attacked his mother with a pipe, then opened fire on the Sherriff's deputy who responded to the domestic disturbance call when the deputy stepped out of his vehicle.

    The wife of the slain deputy has apparently gone into labor.

    If I was on one of the long rifles in the SWAT team, I'd have a hard time NOT shooting the little prick.
     
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    Here we go again!

    Now how many copycats will we see?
     
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    I think we'll only see copycats if it's widely publicized.
     
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    Suspect Michael Harvey

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    However according to Knox County Sheriff, Tim Hutchison, the suspect is believed to have "as much (weaponry and ammunition) inside the house as we have outside," including automatic rifles and scopes.

    Oh yea, I have a feeling this one is gonna end badly....:(
     
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    Not necessarily. I don't believe most conspiriacy theories either, but you can't deny that The Brady Center To Prevent Gun Violence United With The Million Mom March (TBCTPGVUWTMMM for short) isn't going to use incidents like this against us.

    It is this kid's fault that he killed that deputy. He should bear the burden of punishment.
    It is an adult's fault that he got the gun and ammo. He or she should bear the burden of punishment.
    It is his mother's and/or father's fault that they raised a child that would do this atrocious act. They should bear the burden of punishment.

    But you have to *know* that TBCTPGVUWTMMM will decide that it is your fault for selling guns to law-abiding people in Alaska, and that it is my fault for owning a gun just like the one he used and we will be the ones to bear the burden of punishment.
     
  22. WonderNine

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    No.
     
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    This will only end badly, if the kid lives and others get hurt or killed.

    The punk should be taken out ..... sorry but ... he is owed no favors and in my book ... culpability and right and wrong start way before age 16.

    The aftermath is what worries me as much as anything .. such mileage to be gained.
     
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    Does this smell like "roid rage" to anybody else?
     
  25. WonderNine

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    Hmm, never though of that. Could be. Also there are alot of drugs based on steroids including over the counter stuff like asthma medications....
     
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