Neighborhood Kid with AK is Wreaking Havoc!!

[Jim March]

Well ya, if he was an in-patient, if there's drugs involved they're more likely to be psychiatric meds versus steroids, although the latter is still possible. This doesn't smell like "recreational" drugs, unless he got ahold of something really weird.

Heck, I dunno.

<scratches head>

Folks, what bothers me here is that I have SEEN irrational violence in a family member caused by purely medical issues. At age 15, my kid brother came down with late-onset hydrocephalus, which basically means his brain fluid wasn't draining properly, building up in his skull and physically distorting his brain. I personally saw this on both a CAT and MRI scan...I may not have been trained in such, but when the center empty area of his brain was a big off-center empty hole versus the normal skinny channels, it don't take a degree...

They finally got the fluid pressure sorted out with plastic drain hardware and a pressure valve - the normal cure. But the hardware got infected and it took a buttload of revisions to sort it out. 11 surgeries in about 13 months period, 4 months in a coma, over 6 months in-patient physical rehab by the time it was all done.

Meanwhile he went violently nuts, maybe three months into this before he was too weak to be trouble. He attacked me, dad, mom, etc. Didn't go all the way to weapons or a standoff with cops but...it was headed there until they got the brain fluid pressure under control.

Then he was fine. I'd trust him any day of the week, today, armed or otherwise.

Can drugs (esp. "psychiatric") do the same thing? Hell yes. So...I'm not ready to go as gonzo as Tamara.

Sigh.

 

[mattx109]

"Deputies answered the call not knowing there were any weapons in the house," Guider said.

Maybe I'm overly anxious about how this incident will be used by the gun control crowd, but the above quote seems odd to me. As if this might've been avoided if the officer had had access to information concerning what weapons, if any, would be found on the property.

 

[greyhound]

As if this might've been avoided if the officer had had access to information concerning what weapons, if any, would be found on the property.

In this case, seeing as he was the son of a local official, couldn't they have contacted the father and found out, assuming they had made the connection?

Also, aside from the weapons, what was a kid with these problems doing out getting drunk on a school night? (I am asuming [again] that he wasn't in his bedroom chugging gin.)

 

[stevelyn]

As this might have been avoided if the officer had access to information concerning what weapons, if any, would be found on the property.

Uhmmm..........Any officer responding to a residence and a DV call in particular, should assume there are weapons available and make his approach accordingly.
In this situation it would appear the little miscreant planned a hasty ambush for any police response. There is no way to avoid it without a tactical response.
I suspect, given the identity of those involved, the police opted for a low profile response to avoid pi$$ing off someone who is their ally and the officer paid with his life.

 

[standingbear]

alcohol does what to the effects of other drugs?probably,the youth was still drunk or drinking when he attacked his mother...coupled with whatever antidepressants(or even other pills) he was taking...it creates a chemical imbalance in the brain leading to violant and irrational behavior unless it is properly checked.sounds like alot of issues were going on here.tradgic.

 

[Tamara]

"Deputies answered the call not knowing there were any weapons in the house," Guider said.

This is east Tennessee; of course there are weapons in the house.

 

[zahc]

How would they ever know anyway? How could they ever possibly know what weapons were in a house?

 

[7.62FullMetalJacket]

Why, registration, of course. The media is stating that "if they only knew," then all would be well. IIRC aren't police supposed to approach every situation as if arms are present? Although, to the Deputy's credit, no one can reasonably expect an ambush with a rifle.

Problem is that registration is a canard even if it was legal. For example, businesses must report all hazardous materials to the Fire Department. I have seen the Fire Department roll to a location that had "registered" all the hazardous materials and DID NOT HAVE the information. So much for government efficiency

 

[Don Gwinn]

That's a stretch. More likely the deputies were too casual in their approach to the situation, and there's some butt-covering going on. Or the chief knows that some people are going to be Monday-morning quarterbacks and say that the deputies should have done this or that differently, and there's butt-covering going on.

The statement is probably meant to imply that it wasn't the officers' fault that they were so disorganized at first or that one was killed, because they hadn't expected weapons. On the one hand, we all know they should have known that anyone could be armed, but on the other, at least one has paid a higher price than anyone has a right to demand.


I don't know. The conspiracy is always possible, but I need more convincing than the fact that this is convenient for my enemies. That's easily explained by Murphy's Law.