new .22LR buying autoloader help

[slabuda]

Looking for a .22 as I want something cheap to shoot for tgt and whistle pigs.

Want auto loader, preferably heavy bbl, iron sights not required but ok.

Accuracy is #1 priority. Would like it to be able to do 1" @ 100yds (not that ill use it to there but thats the std guage) give or take as long as I do my part--how easy is this for a .22 baring the wind?

Price #2 is important but will pay for a tack driver, under $500 preferred.

Good trigger #3 is always nice! If its not great stock as long as its not hard or expensive to fix im happy.

Reliability, #4 want to shoot not sort issues. But minor niggles are ok as long as its cheap and easy fix. (I understand good mags make the differance).

Not intersted in a 10/22!!!!!

Looking at these so far.

Remmy 597 TVP/Yellow Jacket
Buckmark rifle
Marlin Model 60
Savage 64 BTV

So come on guys give me the skinny, which one and why. Especially if you have owned/shot more than one.

Rate accuracy out the box along with trigger, and reliability.

I go to Vegas in a weeks or so for a month and would like to buy when I get back, especially before I deploy this spring.

Edition to add I really lke the look of the 597 and savage with the laminate and thumb hole stocks.

I do have the opportunity to tryout a Buckmark from a friend.

 

[Dookie]

if you are willing to go as high as the yellow jacket, get the thompson r55. But since it seems you are willing to go for quality, forget the savage, and also think about the 10/22. but of the list, the rem is the better, but I have no experience with the buckmark rifle.

 

[U.S.SFC_RET]

Remmy 597. Never proved me wrong yet. Accurate right out of the box and yes I upgraded the scope.

 

[punkndisorderly]

Although the high end 597's may be much better, I've got the standard 597 and haven't been very impressed with it.

Had lots of problems with jamming and machinegunning right out of the box. Was fixed by new magazines, but interestingly now works with the original and new magazines. The "chrome" coating on the bolt and paint on the inside of the receiver is flaking off. The trigger is very heavy and gritty. The only firearm I have that has problems with rust unless it's drenched in oil.

As far as accuracy, it seems very accurate for an inexpensive autoloader, but not consistant. Some times it seems amazingly accurate, others fairly inaccuarate. Not sure if it's my shooting, the rifle, or something else.

Out of curiosity, why the empahsis on it being an autoloader if accuaracy and price are your prime concerns? Not to try to steer you to something you don't want but a CZ or Savage bolt gun will likely give you better accuracy than an autoloader at the same price point.

 

[moooose102]

i voted marlin. #1 reason, is i like the microgroove barrel. i know that some of it is just a gimmik, but my marlin 22 mag (microgroove) shoots uner 1" circles @ 100 yards with no trouble.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

I'd also consider the marlin 795, but it will still probably have a poor trigger, and not shoot MOA. I'm not sure about how reliable they are.

 

[jester_s1]

The Thomspon Center .22's are the only ones that will make your quality criteria, but the gun itself is around $500. Getting an inch at 100 with a .22 is hard. Subsonic match ammo will be required, which may not cycle the action on an auto. I look at .22 autos as volume guns, accurate to most squirrel engagement distances but not much farther. A bolt gun will give you a better trigger and better accuracy for the same money, and will work with anything.

 

[husker]

i have a rem 597/ rug.10-22 marli60, the rem is the best at 50 yrds. but my friend has a marlin bolt with the micro rifling. its the best 100 yrd 22 iv seen in a while he gave around $200 100yrds is pushing it on a 22 long. look at some 22 mags in the auto loader. i do think they make a rem 597 mag type.

 

[rangerruck]

going with just those choices, the remmy. to get rid of that stupid stock, plus I am a lefty, plus it has the best sights of any 22, plus you can get excellent hi cap mags for it.

 

[WarHall]

Obviously you Do Not want one of these:

This is my Ruger10-22/T, A serious tack driver, although a bit on the heavy side with the Bull Barrel. The advantage to the Rugers is there are a HUGE amount of aftermarket parts. I've since this photo changed the trigger, magazine release, bolt handle, etc...

But if you are serious about Rimfires, here's the place to really find out: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/ (I hope this doesn't break any rules, If so, politely delete the link!)

 

[Pilot]

Ruger 10/22. Simply because it can be highly modified with just about any aftermarket part you want. At the least put in Volquartsen, Clark or Power Custom trigger/sear/hammer parts and get a really nice trigger.

 

[22-rimfire]

The Thompson Center R-55 is the one I would choose if you want out of the box accuracy. I shot quite a few chucks with a 22 rifle in my teens generally within 75 yds. Aim for the ear or eye. Otherwise they will get back into their burrows and die a lingering death. A good scope and good shooting skills are important.

If you are into customizing a 22, the the Ruger is the way to go. You will probably need a new barrel, trigger job, stock etc. Weatherby is coming out with the Mark XXII SA which is a 10/22 with most of the extra's with the Weatherby look. Price is high.

 

[triggerman7.62]

nm...

 

[Dookie]

browning is also a choice, magnum research, volquartsen
Unfortunately, or fortunately, there a billion different semi auto 22's, most are good, so it gives you a choice of exactly what you want.

The early Rems had a lot of problems and that gave them a bad name, they have since fixed the problems and are coming up fast in popularity because of price and accuracy.

 

[husker]

dookie i couldnt have said it better on rem. its way better now.but the 10-22 i had in the early80 was a better gun than the new one i have now. i think they kinda went back wards. just my oppinion

 

[CoRoMo]

I chose 'other' because I'm voting for the one you aren't interested in.

 

[SGW42]

Voted Marlin 60.

I have a 795SS (clip mag-fed 60 action). Darn thing put ~75 rounds into a hole the size of a golf ball at 50 yards the first time I had it out, even with the goofy orange sight. About 150 rounds total that day and not one failure.

Trigger was terrible out of the box but after that work out it seems to be a lot better (but not perfect).

Whole thing is quite compact and weighs as much as a heavy pistol, which could be good or bad, depending on how you like your guns.

I have no doubt a 60 would be exactly the same and plan to pick one up as soon as I find a lonely one in a pawn somewhere.

 

[jgatsios]

Get a Browning BLR-22. It's the finest .22 on the planet.

 

[slabuda]

ok ok ill look more at the 10/22. I really dont feel like putting money into a new stock/barell etc. But its just at times I like something every tom/dick/harry doesnt have. I just like to be a bit different (Hence Dan Wesson CBOB)

Reason for the auto is I like to keep sights on and pop several whistle pigs in as little time while they pop their heads out. Im not the best at cycling the bolt quickly while off hand.

I heard about a light weight carbon 10/22 bull barrel. Maybe thats an option??? Or one of whistlpigs barrels?

And is 460 a good price for a T/C R55 in sporter or benchmark? Looked in Boise today for one but no luck. Have one more shop to visit. But can order one at my LGS.

 

[Schleprok62]

Hell, if you're going to possibly go that route... have a look at the Browning T-Bolt...

I have the Rem 597, and I have had it for about 2 years now. No trouble with it at all. Accurate? very! Mine is the base model grey stock and it actually loves the Remmy Golden HP's.... I know... I'm wierd, and so are my guns...

My OLD Marlin Glenfield Model 25's are more accurate than any $50 rifles have a right to be... and my "baby" Remington Model Five is a shooter for sure... I'd put it in the same league with the CZ 452 Americans... Which, is on my "to get" list...

 

[mr.trooper]

My 597 was complete trash. Constant stovepipes and feeding jams with every ammunition imaginable.

I got new mags. It didn't help.

I cleaned it. It didn't help.

i spent my Christmas money on that trash. Worst $97 i ever spent.

 

[jpwilly]

Armscor 22lr Quite possibly the worlds most underrated 22lr tack driver. When growing up this was the most accurate 22lr we had ever seen...to this day I haven't seen anything less than the bull barreled tricked out 22lr's match what this inexpensive rifle will do.

 

[husker]

this xmas? send it back. they shoot really good. the old ones not so good

 

[Red Tornado]

I voted for the 597, but for your descriptions, if I was buying it, I'd probably go for a Rem 552 instead. It's a tube magazine, but holds 15 LR and with a Spee D Feeder, you can go through a huge volume of shots in a very short time.

If you go up the the R55, you'll never be disappointed. Remember, nobody ever looks back in two years and says "I wish I'd saved $100 2 years ago." But, it's pretty common to hear "I wish I'd spent the extra $100 2 years ago."


If you want to be a legendary whistle pig slayer, you need two 10/22s and this, http://www.tacticalinc.com/ruger-1022-gatling-machined-aluminum-p-571.html
RT