New 9mm, suggestions?

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Alright, I have never owned a 9mm before, and am thinking of getting one.
I currently own 3 ruger handguns, including the Mark II, which is the only semi i have ever owned. I recently shot a P series from Ruger, and really liked the feel for it. It had a trigger job and everything. 1ounce pull. It was a goverment officials gun :) .

So I only have a few criteria for the new gun:
-Not a bank breaker, but not a cheap gun.
-Not looking for a Glock
-I dont care where it is made
-I also might get it used

So far, I have considered the P series from Ruger, and I have looked at some Taurus' that felt pretty solid besides that, I havent pickup or held any others. I am open to pretty much any company (aside from Glock) and am willing to do some research.

So give me some ideas, or anything I need to know before buying a 9mm.
Also, what does Luger mean? And whats they cheapest you guys get your 9mm ammo, just for targer shooting?

And will someone explain the DA and SA concept in a simi? I have a few revolvers and I under stand DA and SA, but in a DA semi does that mean you never have to cock it?

Thanks, Collin
 
Collin -

I just posted a thread about my Ruger P-series pistols...they are an excellent choice.

Another good choice would be a CZ...they are accurate, reliable and a good value. Plenty of threads around here with details.

Stepping up in price, you might consider a Beretta. That's going to put you into the $500+ category (for NIB).

One of the things you'll need to decide to narrow your search is the list of features you want in your pistol. Do you want a manual safety? A decocker only? Frame mounted? Slide mounted? Single stack? Double stack (i.e., higher capacity)? It seems like a lot but those are the kinds of things you trade off between the various brands and models of pistols. Finally, you need to decide how much you want to spend. You can get an NIB Ruger P-series for under $350 -- or you can spend $700 on a Sig. There are lots of options in the range between them.

One of the best things you can do is go out and try as many of them as you can -- either rent them at the range or hook up with other shooters in your area and try their guns. Most of us are more than happy to let someone test out a gun. Talk to them about the pros and cons of that particular weapon and get an idea for yourself of what features you like and don't like.

Hope this helps,

Jim
 
Hey Jim thanks for the advice.
Most of those features are new to me. I would like a manual saftey (is that normal on a 9?) but dont have to have it. I would also like a de coocker.
What do you think about Taurus?
And what would a CZ run me?
 
Ruger makes fine 9mm, P95,P89. I recently bought a CZ75B 9mm, and it fast became my favorite gun. I've ran 300 rnds of Winchester bulk 115gr fmj (12.00 a box of 100 from walmart)and 500 reloads through this gun without 1 problem. This is the only gun I own that shot,spot on, out of the box! And its accurate:) Have fun picking a gun:D
 
The Browning Hi Power is the ultimate 9MM. They can be found from $400 and up if you get an FN which makes all the Browning Hi Powers as well. The CZ-75B's are around $350 - $400 and there are several variants to choose from, while the Hi Power is single action only. Still the BHP is the best if you are OK with SA.
 
Definitely take a look at the CZ offerings, as they have a range of models that fit your criteria.

My first gun was a Magnum Research Baby Eagle 9MM. It is the full-sized model, and all steel. Sure, it's a bit heavy, but that helps soaking up the recoil....and as a range gun, it doesn't bother me one bit. They have 3 different sizes, but even the smallest model is not that small. Avoid the polymer models though.

I only shot the older Ruger model, and didn't care for it - seemed way too heavy and not very natural in my hand. I shot the Taurus 92 model, which is their 'copy' of the Beretta. Seemed nice, and think you can get them just over $400, so a good deal.

Search the forums, and then if you think you see an interesting model, go to their website, look for the gun-specific forum (for example, CZ has a good one out there), and then scan gunbroker or online retailers to see what a good price would be.

Happy hunting.
 
Will you explain the DA and SA concept in a simi? I have a few revolvers and I under stand DA and SA, but in a semi does that mean you never have to cock it?
 
I have to chime in with another recommendation for the CZ. I've had mine for a few years now, and it has been trouble free. If I could just get my wife to let me have it back, I'd be a happy guy.

The CZ 75 series comes in a few different configurations, the B model seems to be the most common and most popular. They also offer a decock model, the CZ75BD, and a single action model, the CZ75SA. Around here the 75B seems to be going for $400 or so, I don't know about the other models.

The Ruger 9mm's have a good following as well. I can't speak first hand on them though. I do have a P90, but much prefer 1911's in .45 caliber and with the CZ I can't seem to find another 9 that I like as well.

Good luck, there are a lot of choices out there.
 
Hi!
Ruger P95DC is my hany full size 9mm. very good 9mm pistol. I wish I would have gotten a stainless slide tho.

Above and beyond, I recommend the Taurus PT111 Millenium Pro. I have one in stainless. Top Quality pistol! today mine hit about 2,200 rds. since I bought it last November. Zero Malfunctions, 100% reliable, and quite easy handeling!
Take-down and cleaning is simple, easy to re assemble aswell. I put some Handall Jr slip on grips on mine, and its is wonderful in the hands! I like the grips off for carry as shirt like to hang up more on the rubber.
Slide and frame ride together close, tight, less debris/dust gets into this guns action.
Its easily concealable. lightweight, and still has a 12+1 capacity.
aboout everyone who has shot mine, now has one of their own, even my instructor.
The price is great, about $300 new in box, with 2 mags ;) available with night sights, Titanium, stainless, or blued-black slide,. and in every caliber from .32Auto to .45ACP..


want something bigger? Id say check out the Taurus 24/7 series of pistols.
taurus is verry reliable, and very affordable, My new prefrence.

I also like a S&W Sigma .... Great pistol aswell.
 
Taurus PT92 AR. I have one and it has been 100% reliable and is quite accurate. The stainless version looks very nice and you can get them for about $330 brand new. In that price range or a little more the CZ 75 is also very accurate and a good choice.
 
Will you explain the DA and SA concept in a simi? I have a few revolvers and I under stand DA and SA, but in a semi does that mean you never have to cock it?
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The only difference in regards to DA and SA in semi-autos is, you have to rack the slide to get a bullet in the chamber. It'll then be cocked. If you have a de cocker and decide to de cock it, you'll have to recock it again if you have a Single Action. With a Double Action, you wouldn't have to recock it.

P.S. I might have my double and single backwards. I still get mixed up between the two. Since you know what each means, then you should understand what I mean if I've got them backwards.
 
I'll have to agree with innerpiece9. I'm glad I bought a P95, even though it's a bit too big for me to CCW with it's been a great gun. Will shoot anything, bought some high capacity mags and good SD rounds........ it's a perfect house/car gun.

I just ordered a Taurus Milpro PT-145, basically the same size as the 9mm Taurus PT-111. I've heard so many great things about them and it fit all my requirements perfectly. I wanted something small, in a large caliber that could carry more than 6 rounds, that was reliable and didn't break the bank. Although I haven't shot one yet, I've had the chance to get my hands on the PT-111 and PT-145 and they fit my hand perfectly and have a real natural aim.

If I like the PT-145 as much as I think, I may look at buying a PT-111 for the wife (ok.......partly for me too).

Jerry :D
 
Here it is the best 9mm going (my opinion) SIG P226
A little price heavy new but you can find used or factory certified for a good price.
 
The only difference in regards to DA and SA in semi-autos is, you have to rack the slide to get a bullet in the chamber. It'll then be cocked. If you have a de cocker and decide to de cock it, you'll have to recock it again if you have a Single Action. With a Double Action, you wouldn't have to recock it.
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Well if thats the case, then I would definetly want a DA.

I am going to my local range/gun store tomorrow. I will be browsing everything from CZ to XD to Taurus to P series.
Im sure I will find somthing I like.
 
If you want a decent lower price 9mm . I would reccomend an FEG HP copy.
They are fairly good for the low price . But if you want a more expensive 9
the Sig 226 imo is an excellent gun .
 
CDNN has some excellent deals on new and used (police trade-in) firearms, including SIGs. Go to this link and download their catalog to your desktop. Then take a look for yourself....


http://www.cdnninvestments.com/dowournewcat.html

Some of their better deals (IMHO) would be a S&W 5906 in very good to excellent cond. for $399.99. The 5906 is a reliable, durable, hi-cap (double-stack) 9mm service pistol. Also, it's all steel construction/weight (~36oz) further reduces the already very managable felt recoil of the 9mm cartridge.

Another would be a SIG P226 9mm w/night sights in very good to excellent cond for $399.99. I currently own a P225, and a P220 9mm and I can personally attest for SIGs reliability, accuracy, and trigger.

Still another would be a "new with tiny blems" SIG P226 9mm for $499.99.

I've bought 2 pistols, a number of magazines, and other parts from CDNN, and I've always been very pleased with their service.


nero
 
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My vote goes to Beretta or CZ. I don't have one but a CZ compact may be better for carry.
Also, what does Luger mean? And whats they cheapest you guys get your 9mm ammo, just for targer shooting?
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9mm Luger, 9mm Parabellum, 9mm NATO and 9x19 are all the same thing. And I get my cheap ammo at the gun shop. Magtech is good for killing soda cans and milk jugs. Walmart has WWB cheap too.
 
Get a Glock 19 or Glock 26...Rent a bunch of different 9mm range guns - shoot them - pick the one that you shoot the best - buy it.
 
I know you said no GLOCKs but you are missing out. They are some of the best 9mm handguns on the market today. That being said, I once owned a Ruger P95 and it was O.K. The trigger is not very good. Another 9mm to consider is the Smith & Wesson model 910. They are often overlooked in my opinion. The DA trigger is very nice and being a revolver shooter myself, I found it easy to shoot. Side by side with a SIG 229, I actually liked the trigger better on the S&W. If you are willing to go used (due to price), the SIG 226 and the Beretta 92FS are also great 9mm pistols.

Based on your criteria, I really think you should look at the S&W 910. It is a traditional DA/SA pistol i.e. once you insert a loaded magazine, you rack the slide back to chamber a round. The hammer can then be decocked by engaging the safety lever. By flipping the lever back up the weapon is safe to carry and can be fired by simple pulling the trigger. The first shot will need a longer (double action) pull and each shot after that is lighter (single action.

Hope this helps.
 
loki.fish said: The only difference in regards to DA and SA in semi-autos is, you have to rack the slide to get a bullet in the chamber. It'll then be cocked. If you have a de cocker and decide to de cock it, you'll have to recock it again if you have a Single Action. With a Double Action, you wouldn't have to recock it.

P.S. I might have my double and single backwards. I still get mixed up between the two. Since you know what each means, then you should understand what I mean if I've got them backwards.
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That's not entirely accurate.

A single action gun, handgun or revolver, means squeezing the trigger only drops hammer. It doesn't cock it, and the hammer only moves one way when pulling the trigger - forward. The hammer must be manually cocked, as in the case of single action revolvers, or the movement of the slide cocks the hammer, as in the case of a 1911 or Browning Hi-Power.

A trigger on double action guns moves the hammer rearward to cock it, and then once it reaches its full arc, forward to fire. On traditional DA/SA semi-automatic handguns, the first shot is usually fired double action as the hammer is down, the subsequent shots are fired single action, as the slide's motion rearward cocks the hammer. A double action only gun will not operate this way, though, as the hammer is designed to return forward for double action fire.

I suggest doing some research on the various features and operating systems of semi-automatic pistols, and what you are going to use it for, before deciding on what you want.
 
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