New Browning 1911-380 to be announced tomorrow.
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ljnowell
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Shhhh! Don't use facts! Anytime someone hates on any product made of aluminum they call it pot metal.
Field Tester
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They said they had issues with the small grip size. Can anyone explain why (i.e. entertain guesses) they didn't just build it as a double stack?
In my mind this just gives more options for CCW, but you can still use single stack for purists.
Is it not feasible from an engineering standpoint?
In my mind this just gives more options for CCW, but you can still use single stack for purists.
Is it not feasible from an engineering standpoint?
SC Shooter
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Although I have been called old and stodgy, I like to consider myself a traditionalist. That being said, my question is this, "What's the point?" A 1911 is a .45ACP, a High Power is a 9X19mm, a Makarov is a 9X18mm, etc. They all became loved by their followers because of their original design. Oh yeah, I also like walnut stocks on my long guns and my martinis straight up with an olive.
1911Tuner
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aka "What is it for?"
To sell.
wally
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Looks to me they are looking to sell into the same niche -- a large .380 for folks with hand problems that can't tolerate a full sized 9mm pistol's recoil. It should be heavier than the Browning if it has a steel (or aluminum) frame and thus even softer shooting.
Don't see either of them as much of a range gun for folks without hand issues, given the price and availability of .380ACP vs. 9mm ammo.
While one may like the idea of a double stack, there are capacity issues in a fair number of states that make the niche even smaller, and a fatter grip probably doesn't help someone with hand issues.
I'd prefer aluminum over polymer. There's not much tech info on the Armscor piece.
huntsman
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^ Aluminum frame and nickel plated and I'd be all over it.
^ Aluminum frame and nickel plated and I'd be all over it.
I will be more interested in the Browning if it does have an aluminum frame.
The micro 380 ACP pistols such as the Kel Tec P3AT (I have one) do not really light my fire. The P-32 shoots better for me due to the smaller cartridge.
About the smallest 380 ACP pistol that I like to shoot is a Colt Mustang/Sig P-238.
I like the size of the Colt 1903/1908 pistols but I would not carry one of them due to their age and value.
The Browning might just satisfy that need.
Of course, others will have different opinions.
ApacheCoTodd
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Poly or aluminum/alloy?
Both a no for me.
I'd definitely be a buyer for true steel. Then again, I recognize that the cost might sway me away.
So, I guess it just ain't gonna happen where I'm concerned.
Got a 230SL
Got the prettiest CZ83 I've ever seen - outside of plated/engraved
Got a 1903
Want a Mustang and Govt .380
Maybe a Browning will come my way used/estate - then I'd be happy.
Both a no for me.
I'd definitely be a buyer for true steel. Then again, I recognize that the cost might sway me away.
So, I guess it just ain't gonna happen where I'm concerned.
Got a 230SL
Got the prettiest CZ83 I've ever seen - outside of plated/engraved
Got a 1903
Want a Mustang and Govt .380
Maybe a Browning will come my way used/estate - then I'd be happy.
herkyguy
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Read the article. It says they tried 9mm, but the 85% wouldn't handle the pressure.
The article makes some good points.
1: .380 velocity out of a longer barrel is a good thing for self defense.
2. They found it incredibly accurate and reliable.
add to that the 8+1 capacity and I think it could fit some CCW niche.
Someone always brings it up, so I might as well, but I reload so .380 cost isn't a factor to me.
I did however just pick up 3 boxes of Buffalo Bore .380 100 grain hardcast with an advertised velocity of 1150 fps if I'm correct. Add a few more inches to the barrel and the little 100 grain bullet might be travelling 1200+ fps....
that's gotta be worth something. I think it's a cool gun.
The article makes some good points.
1: .380 velocity out of a longer barrel is a good thing for self defense.
2. They found it incredibly accurate and reliable.
add to that the 8+1 capacity and I think it could fit some CCW niche.
Someone always brings it up, so I might as well, but I reload so .380 cost isn't a factor to me.
I did however just pick up 3 boxes of Buffalo Bore .380 100 grain hardcast with an advertised velocity of 1150 fps if I'm correct. Add a few more inches to the barrel and the little 100 grain bullet might be travelling 1200+ fps....
that's gotta be worth something. I think it's a cool gun.
Willie Sutton
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Suppressed... gonna be fun.
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powwowell
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Maybe it will have the success of the Glock 42?
Some of us "older folk" can shoot .380 (non-blow back), when the larger calibers become a bit much. Some of us really take to lighter weight pistols, that don't rattle our teeth when firing. Some folks buy a pistol to just shoot.
Due to my unexpected, pleasant, experience with the G42, I'm not prejudiced against the Browning.
Some of us "older folk" can shoot .380 (non-blow back), when the larger calibers become a bit much. Some of us really take to lighter weight pistols, that don't rattle our teeth when firing. Some folks buy a pistol to just shoot.
Due to my unexpected, pleasant, experience with the G42, I'm not prejudiced against the Browning.
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