"New" (but returned) XDM would you buy it?

[Tim the student]

OK, so I am thinking about buying one (a 40) from a local Scheels.

It is priced at $570. They said it was a return, but unfired. It does look "unfired" to me. There is some wear on the barrel a bit -not much, but some. (It is also out on the shelf, so it gets racked quite a bit.) They also said that Springfield would have no issues as far as considering me to be the initial purchaser.

So, what are your thoughts on this? Do you think Springfield would give me any grief over the warranty? Would you be hesitant to buy it for any reason?

 

[DeepSouth]

I'd buy it. Springfield will honor their lifetime warranty if there is something wrong. Honestly the fact that it had been back to them would probably make me more likely to buy it because it could easily be better than a "factory new" one once they got through with it.


EDIT:
Was it a return to the gun shop from a customer or a return to the Manufacture?
Either way I'd buy it and either way Springer will warranty it, but if it was a customer return I would like to at least look at the insides like Echo9 suggested.

 

[Echo9]

I'd buy it if I could take it apart and look inside.

 

[Nick5182]

I'd do what echo9 said. Field strip it and look at the internals, but if everything was sound, I'd buy it.

 

[bobelk99]

Like Echo said.

 

[Tim the student]

Thanks guys.

 

[rhinoh]

Can you also return it if something IS wrong?
If so I'd buy it.

 

[Tim the student]

Can you also return it if something IS wrong?

In theory. They do have a pretty liberal return policy. I've used it myself, but not on firearms.

 

[SwampWolf]

I might buy it if the dealer gave me a little break in the price (from what he's asking for a new, new one). I assume this is the case here, otherwise just buy a new, unreturned one.

 

[Enachos]

Those are very nice guns! Don't like the looks of them but they shoot very well!

 

[rd2007]

I absolutely love my XDm .40 and recommend it to almost everyone I know, but most already own one..

 

[lastrebel70]

I have a brand new one on layaway right now that there were asking $590 for. Two weeks before they had a used one that looked like it might of had 1 magazine thru it for $489, but I told my boss and he went and bought it.

 

[Erik M]

A guy I work with is selling one he got on trade, 'like new in box' for 575. I told him to rich for my blood for a gun that looks like an imitation glock. It feels solid its just to big for any application I have.

 

[carbuncle]

I'd buy it, no problem.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

My local dealer sells the black Springfield XDM in 40 S&W for $625 including the transfer fee. $570 doesn't sound like a huge break for a pistol that was owned by someone and then returned. Does it come with everything it should like when really new?

 

[grubbylabs]

I am of the Opinion that used is used even if it is only 5 minutes used, it's used. But they are great guns. So if they are selling it at a used price then go for it if not then buy a new one.

 

[Tim the student]

Was it a return to the gun shop from a customer or a return to the Manufacture?

As I understand it, it was a return from a guy who bought it, and then returned it quickly (like that day/next day type of thing.) I don't know why he returned it.

Does it come with everything it should like when really new?

It did. (I bought it.)

I was actually wrong on the price - it was $560. Too bad it looks like a couple places lowered their prices the day after I got it. Oh well, it happens.

So far, I have around 400 rounds through it. (God, I can't believe how fast I can go through a box of ammo!) I had 2 failures to feed - both were with Remington UMC 165g FMC's. It looked like both times the mouth of the brass got caught up somewhere near the feed ramp (forgive me if my terminology is wrong) before it was chambered. That certainly concerns me, but I am reserving judgement on the pistol because of the frequency that it happened, and the quality of the ammunition. Frankly, with the reputation of this gun, I expected/hoped for a little better. But, if it only happens with that type of ammo at a rate of .8%, I am ok with that. If it continues to happen with other ammo (which it hasn't) then I think it will be going back to Springfield.

So far, I like it a lot. It really feels good in my hand, much better than the M9 ever did. It has been a couple years since I have shot handguns a lot (well, not a lot, but regularly), so my marksmanship is lacking. I've forgotten how hard it is to shoot a pistol well. This gun really makes me want to get a progressive press - and a .22 to practice with.

 

[LiveLife]

I had 2 failures to feed - both were with Remington UMC 165g FMC's. It looked like both times the mouth of the brass got caught up somewhere near the feed ramp (forgive me if my terminology is wrong) before it was chambered. That certainly concerns me, but I am reserving judgement on the pistol because of the frequency that it happened, and the quality of the ammunition.

It's not the gun, it's the ammo - Remington UMC's are not very reliable and often do not push the slide all the way back for a clean strip of rounds from the magazine and results in feeding problem you experienced.

Try several other ammo (i.e. Winchester white box) and see if you have the same problem.

XDM's have tighter tolerances than the regular XD for match grade performance. Good purchase. Enjoy it.

 

[Tim the student]

It's not the gun, it's the ammo

Thats what I figured. I've used the UMC's in rifles and wasn't particularly impressed.

Try several other ammo (i.e. Winchester white box) and see if you have the same problem.

I did try other brands (not many), and had no issues. I'm not stressing about it. I'll start stressing when and if I get problems with a higher quality of ammo. I got a variety of the cheapest stuff I could find to play with it on my first weekend of owning it.

 

[OregonJohnny]

I bought my XDM40 Bi-Tone brand-new about 2 years ago when they had just come out (it has a serial number in the mid 500's). I paid $600.

It has about 400-500 rounds through it. It has had about 5 failures to feed. All have been with Remington UMC FMJ. I believe they've all been 165 grain. I've tested about 50 rounds of defensive ammo through it (Hornady T.A.P. JHP) without any problems. These Hornady rounds were also amazingly accurate compared to the UMC. Even my 180-grain plated reloads seem to function better than the Remington UMC. For reference, my XD40 Subcompact has had more like 1,200 rounds through it without a single failure. The XDM definitely seems to have tighter tolerances.

It's a great shooter, accurate, comfortable in the hand, well-made, lots of rounds on tap. But the length of the grip makes it impossible to conceal (for me). It's a great range/target gun, and could serve well as a primary home defense handgun. I just like handling and shooting my other semi-autos a little bit more.

 

[nwilliams]

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[jad0110]

Deleted.

 

[LiveLife]

I had 2 failures to feed - both were with Remington UMC ... I did try other brands (not many), and had no issues.

It has had about 5 failures to feed. All have been with Remington UMC FMJ

Ding ding ding!

 

[ilikepancakes]

My local dealer sells the black Springfield XDM in 40 S&W for $625 including the transfer fee. $570 doesn't sound like a huge break for a pistol that was owned by someone and then returned. Does it come with everything it should like when really new?

I'd normally agree with this. Used is used, get a better price! But since it's unfired AND you still get the warranty... not so bad a deal. Hope you enjoy your gun!