New Colt Series 70 Gold Cup?

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I have one that was a result of one of those deals I couldn't pass on. However, my stainless version from the factory looks exactly as those seen in this article.

As to the gun itself? I like it but in the almost year that I have had it I doubt I have 100 rounds through the gun. Shoots fine and was accurate using some everyday Winchester 230 grain ball ammunition. I haven't run any hand loads through the gun yet. Overall I do have 4 Series 70 original guns in blue, two of which are Gold Cup guns so I guess we could say I do like the Series 70 guns.

A friend of mine bought the gun new in the box using money he should have not used. This got ugly with his wife who is actually responsible with money. I think I paid about $800 for he gun, unfired and still new in the box. :)

Would I buy one from a store? Yes, and that is after only running like I mentioned, about 100 rounds through the gun. I just happen to like the gun.

Just My Take
Ron
 
sounds like you have a stainless 70 series repro, not a new blued 70 series gold cup.

anyone else?
 
I have one of the originals. Very nice piece of machinery. I have a couple of other brands with the beavertail and never notice the difference when shooting them.
 
There is someone selling an 83 series 70 Gold Cup with low miles, "almost unused", he's asking a grand for it, what do you guys think. The last time I fired one was in the 70's or early eighty's, from an employee I shot competition with.
 
I guess no one on THR has purchased or shot a 2015 Series 70 Gold Cup.

If I get my hands on one I'll let everyone know.
 
Thank you, George, but that video is 3 years old and is on the Series 80 model, not the new Series 70 model, which is what my post is about. But I appreciate the effort.
 
My local GS got one last week. I fondled it a while. The biggest cosmetic difference is the flat top. The rear sight is in a slightly different position than the 80's Series. The trigger felt no better than the new 80's Series I bought in January. It is a nice gun, though.
 
Thanks ColtPythonElite.

It's odd to me that Colt would put out a "match" semiauto with the same trigger pull as a standard 1911 in their line. What justifies the inflated price and reputation, some would ask? Myself included. Frontstrap serrations? An adjustable rear sight? A NM barrel? Is that it?? No fitted barrel bushing or slide to frame? Hand honed trigger parts? And the thumb safeties on both of the 80 Series Gold Cups I have tried at the LGS have been practically immovable. One salesman said he was going to show it to the shop gunsmith to see if it could be improved.

Same with the Special Combat Government series. If they had 30PLI frontstrap checkering, a nice tritium white dot front sight and a one-hole test target at something beyond 15 yards (!) that would go a long way in justifying the $2000-$2200 prices I see online and in the LGS.

I guess the new 70 Series will have to remain a mystery until I can find some online review.
 
I started to mention the safety but didn't want to seem to be bashing the gun. The 70's I fondled also had a safety that required considerable force... My new 80's has a much easier safety.
 
Yep, back in the day a National Match got hand fitted parts,....because they needed it....Today's CNC guns are much better. My new 80's Series National Match is one of the better out of the box 1911 guns I have tried. I have zero complaints. It feeds any ammo and shoots very tight groups. At the $985 I paid for it, I consider it a bargain.
 
Buds has had them for $1167 cash for about 3 weeks now. I have about bought one a dozen times. I think after the rush of first to have it buyers is over, we will either see the price go down a tad or Colt offer a rebate.
 
Colt O5070X Gold Cup Series 8+1 45ACP 5"
$1089
Colt O5870NM Gold Cup Series 8+1 45ACP 5"
$1,117
Current offerings from Buds, the first is stainless, second is blued
 
George that is not the new 70 Gold Cup.

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The O5070X is a 80 series pistol. The O5870A1 pictured above is the 70 series.

They are selling for about $1200 to $1300 OTD depending on your market.
 
Thanks for pointing that out, I asked the other day if 1000 was a good price for a 1983 series 70 Gold Cup in my area, but I didn't get a response. So I am assuming it was a good price, barely fired. Buds just had them listed as is, so I thought I was helping. So is a used series 70 for a thousand dollars a good deal? The #70 in the model # threw me off, I assumed they were all series 70 re issues.
 
The blue job on an older National Match is usually very nice. The rear sights are held on by a pin, which is notorious for breaking.

I might give $1000 for a used 1983 vintage if it had the box and documents.

I believe the recent guns are probably better made and likely to give less issues regarding feeding. The new CNC guns are top notch for production guns.
 
george burns said:
Thanks for pointing that out, I asked the other day if 1000 was a good price for a 1983 series 70 Gold Cup in my area, but I didn't get a response. So I am assuming it was a good price, barely fired. Buds just had them listed as is, so I thought I was helping. So is a used series 70 for a thousand dollars a good deal? The #70 in the model # threw me off, I assumed they were all series 70 re issues.
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1983 was the last year that Colt manufactured the original Colt Government Mk. IV Series 70 guns, they ran from 1970 to 1983. They included the Gold Cup guns in the lot. The way to tie a gun to year of manufacture is using the serial number. The serial number will also separate the Gold Cup National Match guns from the standard versions. These were the original Series 70 guns.

During 1970 the change to the new series “70″ begins and serial numbers changed also.
S/N 70G01001 to 70G05550 – 1970 – 4550
S/N 70G05551 to 70G18000 – 1971 – 12,450
S/N 70G18001 to 70G34400 – 1972 – 16,400
S/N 70G34401 to 70G43000 – 1973 – 8600
S/N 70G43001 to 70G73000 – 1974 – 30,000
S/N 70G73001 to 70G88900 – 1975 – 15,900
S/N 70G88901 to 70G99999 – 1976 – 11,099
During 1976 a range change of serial number begins.
S/N 01001G70 to 13900G70 – 1976 – 12,900
S/N 13901G70 to 45199G70 – 1977 – 31,299
S/N 45200G70 to 89185G70 – 1978 – 43,986
S/N 89186G70 to 99999G70 – 1979 – 10,813
During 1979 a range change of serial numbers begins on March 20, 1979.
S/N 01000B70 to 30008B70 – 1979 – 29,008
S/N 30009B70 to 72989B70 – 1980 – 42,981
S/N 72990B70 to 99999B70 – 1981 – 27,009
During 1981 a range change of serial numbers begins on Oct. 17, 1981.
S/N 70B00001 to 70B11246 – 1981 – 11,246
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The Gold Cup National Match guns:
1970 35800-NM - 37026-NM
1970 70N01001
1971 70N02001
1972 70N06201
1973 70N08901
1974 70N11301
1975 70N22301
1976 70N31600
After 1976 70N40401
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Unfortunately that is all I am seeing but you get the idea as to the Gold Cup guns, they were prefixed with a 70N serial number.

As to the guns in general and the cost? Yeah, I would say that $1,000 is a darn good price for a original Series 70 Colt Gold Cup NM. When I do see them around here they average $1,500 and up for a real nice clean gun less the box and with the box maybe a few hundred more. However, those are store prices and not private sales. The standard Series 70 guns around here in good condition command around $1,000. Also, with the Internet and Internet sales geographical area really doesn't mean as much as it once did.

The numbers in the above quotes were taken from here.

Just My Take
Ron
 
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