I'm getting my first CZ-75 and I had a few questions about it that I hope someone could answer. What is the difference between the CZ-75 and the CZ-75 B? I've heard that the gun is accurate, but does this apply more to one model than the other, or can I expect the same level of accuracy with the B? Will the Cadet .22 conversion kit fit the B? Also, what is the general consensus on CZ customer service? It seems that owners of the CZ series of handguns are quite fanatical about their CZ's. On this forum and others, CZ owners seem to be quite loyal with almost a cult following for their favored CZ product. I really do feel like I am joining a "club" with fellow CZ shooters. There are only a few other handguns that seem to engender this kind of loyalty. What is it about the CZ-75 (and others in the line)?
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Golddog
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The 75 pre-B doesn't have a firing pin block and thus may have a slightly crisper trigger. Otherwise, they're pretty much the same as the 75B.
I never liked any semi-auto for long - and I tried most of them - until I got into CZ's. They're handsome, very accurate, reliable, and relatively inexpensive. But the key to the cult is their ergonomics and their cocked and locked capability, giving you an excellent first shot trigger pull.
So now I have seven of them.
I never liked any semi-auto for long - and I tried most of them - until I got into CZ's. They're handsome, very accurate, reliable, and relatively inexpensive. But the key to the cult is their ergonomics and their cocked and locked capability, giving you an excellent first shot trigger pull.
So now I have seven of them.
The Lone Haranguer
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A B has an internal firing pin block, squared-off trigger guard front and ring hammer.
I see no reason why the B should be less accurate than its predecessor.
I have a 75D Compact PCR that I am very impressed and pleased with, as well as a 452 "Training Rifle."
I only have three: 83, 75B, SP-01 – all have been equally accurate and reliable. My experience with CZ USA customer service was excellent with two rifles. The smith was professional and polite and the problem was fixed timely and correctly the first time.
1SOW
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New CZ75 Pistols: 12(?) models, none are JUST CZ75, CZ75B, CZ75SA, BD, 75B Stainless, 75 Kadet, etc, etc.
I like and can shoot my 75B even though it doesn't quite fit my finger reach.
This is probably the biggest complaint I've seen about the DA/SA
versions ...LOOONG DA/SA first shot pull. The PO1 is said to be better.
The 75B models don't have a 'drop mag'. It was easy to fix by flattening
and trimming the piece of spring steel behind the mag.
The price is good
They point well for most shooters
Moderate recoil due to weight and design
They are usually very accurate out of the box and get better after break-in.
Mine shoots any type of ammo (including some reallynasty reloads I bought).
They are very durable. They'll shoot 'dirty'.
High cap (16) mags are relatively inexpensive (Mec-Gar)
I don't know how good the Company is personally, because I've never
needed them. I have had a problem with the CZ web site.
"Accessories/Parts" have been closed for a long time.
I like and can shoot my 75B even though it doesn't quite fit my finger reach.
This is probably the biggest complaint I've seen about the DA/SA
versions ...LOOONG DA/SA first shot pull. The PO1 is said to be better.
The 75B models don't have a 'drop mag'. It was easy to fix by flattening
and trimming the piece of spring steel behind the mag.
The price is good
They point well for most shooters
Moderate recoil due to weight and design
They are usually very accurate out of the box and get better after break-in.
Mine shoots any type of ammo (including some reallynasty reloads I bought).
They are very durable. They'll shoot 'dirty'.
High cap (16) mags are relatively inexpensive (Mec-Gar)
I don't know how good the Company is personally, because I've never
needed them. I have had a problem with the CZ web site.
"Accessories/Parts" have been closed for a long time.
I only have six and three clones. The Kadet kit will fit the 75B and it makes for a fine shooting .22. In face, I use my Kadet kit more than my other .22s now. A word of warning though; cZs are addictive and you will soon add another and another and another ..........
DWARREN123
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I have 3, CZ 75 Compacts in 9mm and 40 S&W and a Kadet. Accurate and fits me perfectly. The 9mm is in Satin Nickle which is a lot better than I thought it would be, I really like this pistol.
DirksterG30
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What drew me to the CZ-75 series was the ergonomics. My wife chose a CZ PCR (compact, decocker, aluminum-frame 9mm) for her first pistol, and I liked the gun enough that I bought a P-01 several months later. My CZ has been deadly accurate (the downside is it makes me think I'm a better shot than I really am) and very reliable. When I get some more $ saved up, I'd like to buy a full-sized CZ-75, or maybe an SP-01.
The B models have a firing pin block, and the firing pin is retained with a roll pin instead of a plate like in a 1911.
The B's also have a squared off trigger guard and the safety detent is an improved design (easy to loose parts in the pre-B series if you aren't careful), the front sight in the B is in a dovetail instead of staked on. The B models also have rounded "commander" style hammers. Most CZ-75's don't have drop free magazines B series or not. Slide serrations are different and the B has grooves in the top of the slide to reduce glare.
The B's also have a squared off trigger guard and the safety detent is an improved design (easy to loose parts in the pre-B series if you aren't careful), the front sight in the B is in a dovetail instead of staked on. The B models also have rounded "commander" style hammers. Most CZ-75's don't have drop free magazines B series or not. Slide serrations are different and the B has grooves in the top of the slide to reduce glare.
Canuc Shooter
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Just acquired a CZ75b (40S&W), along with the Kadet. Fell in Love after only a few rounds. Had to replace the original slide stop with a 9mil slide stop in order for the Kadet conversion kit slide to lock-up on an empty mag. The 9mil slide stop doesn't hinder the 40 S&W operation at all. Get workmanship and accuracy.
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I have been doing some reading lately on the CZ 75B. A few months ago I purchase a new Charles Daly Hi Power. I wanted a 9mm besides my Glock 19 and the Hi Power was recommended. I was not familiar with the CZ then.
I like the Charles Daly, but mine is consistently inaccurate (at about 20 yards, 10" high and the the left.
I am torn between getting an adjustable rear site for it, or just getting rid of it and looking into a CZ.
Thoughts anyone?
I like the Charles Daly, but mine is consistently inaccurate (at about 20 yards, 10" high and the the left.
I am torn between getting an adjustable rear site for it, or just getting rid of it and looking into a CZ.
Thoughts anyone?
Ash
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There is a major difference between the B and pre B 75's. The frames on the Pre B CZ-75's are generally (though not always) tighter than current CZ-75B's. As a result, after market magazines rarely fit the Pre B's (sometimes current 75 mags don't fit, either). I have owned several pre's and only one would take all magazines.
The current 75B is a superb pistol and while less classy-looking with the squared trigger guard, it remains an outstanding design. I have a 75B in 9mm and an EAA Witness in .45ACP. Both are outstanding designs.
Ash
The current 75B is a superb pistol and while less classy-looking with the squared trigger guard, it remains an outstanding design. I have a 75B in 9mm and an EAA Witness in .45ACP. Both are outstanding designs.
Ash
barneyfife.357
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I have the CZ 75B, it's a great pistol, fits my hand almost perfectly, choice of double or single action first shot. The great thing about a CZ is that it is closer to the size of say a 1911, in the slide; therefore it is easier to conceal than say a Beretta or a SigSauer. Both of which are excellent guns.
The cult like attention is outstanding, for one the price is nearly half of the previous mentioned pistols and the accuracy doesn't show signs of difference until you get to the 50 yard mark. Even then, the B-27 silhouette targets are an easy shot.
As for customer service, I wouldn't know i have shot nearly 5K rounds through my pistol without a flaw. It is also one of the first pistols that I haven't seen been "limp-wristed" even younger shooters can control the pistol
The cult like attention is outstanding, for one the price is nearly half of the previous mentioned pistols and the accuracy doesn't show signs of difference until you get to the 50 yard mark. Even then, the B-27 silhouette targets are an easy shot.
As for customer service, I wouldn't know i have shot nearly 5K rounds through my pistol without a flaw. It is also one of the first pistols that I haven't seen been "limp-wristed" even younger shooters can control the pistol
CoinMan
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Interestingly, I had the same accuracy issues with my new CZ-75B. During my first session with the new pistol, I too was shooting everything left and a little high. I was somewhat concerned after paying $200 plus my GP100 trade-in, but with all of the positive reviews I've seen on this forum I couldn't give up on it. It had to be user error, and not the pistol. When switching to my Ruger 22/45 (with absolutely zero recoil), I found myself flinching while pulling the trigger, anticipating recoil that wasn't there. Now, I always "warm up" with a few mags of 22LR before shooting the CZ, and then alternate between the two if I get into a wild streak. It's helped my shooting with both calibers tremendously. Now the CZ is dead on, and I'm shooting nice consistent groups.
I'm not suggesting that you are having the same recoil anticipation problems with your Daly that I did with the CZ. I'm just saying that you should never give up on or loose faith in a new pistol before it's 1) broken in, and 2) you are accustomed to the feel and recoil. How many rounds do you have through it, and how many different trips has it made to the range?
I've never tried the Daly, but I'm sure you will become more accurate with it, with or without the adj sight. IF you want to trade it for a CZ, I couldn't fault you. It's an excellent pistol - at any price. It just gets expensive test driving new pistol after new pistol. Try to borrow one if possible before taking the plunge, because the high-push problem can happen with any handgun.
Good luck.
Rod B
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In addition to the differences mentioned in several of the above posts.
The preB model CZ75 has a forged frame & slide.
The CZ75B has an investment cast frame & forged slide.
The cast frame is not a detriment as I have never heard of a problem with a B series frame. Investment casting when done properly (eg: CZ & Ruger) is more than strong enough for firearms applications. However purists prefer both frame & slide to be forged.
The preB model CZ75 has a forged frame & slide.
The CZ75B has an investment cast frame & forged slide.
The cast frame is not a detriment as I have never heard of a problem with a B series frame. Investment casting when done properly (eg: CZ & Ruger) is more than strong enough for firearms applications. However purists prefer both frame & slide to be forged.
I don't think so. When I take people to the range, who are not savvy shooters, they tend to gravitate toward several models. One of those models that most people like to shoot and naturally shoot well is the CZ and the CZ clones (AR-24).
I'm not sure why CZ has such a following., I suppose people like to gravotate towards "brand". You see it with Sig, Glock, HK, etc.
What I can say about the CZ-75b (and variants) , is that it's reasonably priced, VERY accurate, reliable, has an ALL-STEEL frame, and has superb ergonomics. That itself makes for an attractive package and desirable weapon.
What I can say about the CZ-75b (and variants) , is that it's reasonably priced, VERY accurate, reliable, has an ALL-STEEL frame, and has superb ergonomics. That itself makes for an attractive package and desirable weapon.
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My personal experience is the opposite. I much prefer shooting my Ruger Mk II to the Kadet. I don't know why, just personal preference, I guess.
Furthermore, I think one can buy a Ruger for less than the Kadet.
Shooting the CZ/Kadet seems much different than shooting the CZ 75, so I don't really see it as practice for shooting the regular CZ 75.
Agree, they are very good guns for the price.
Ken
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I think you'll find that there accuracy (75, 75PO1, PCR ect..) sets them apart from most other pistols. It's not uncommon to get sub-2-inch groups at 25yrds with the right ammo. Most folks will tell you they were surprised at how well they shoot for the money and thus the cult-status.......
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