New guy question

[jonsmithrf]

Hello everyone and thank you for taking the time to read my thread and respond to my question. I am currently a resident of VT and I am moving to Kansas in a few months. As I understand I am allowed to bring my pistol with me when I move. According to Kansas law open carry is legal, but do I need a Kansas ID card to do so? I ask because I have to wait six months to apply for a concealed carry permit, and I strongly dislike being unarmed. Thanks again in advance.

 

[DASHMAN77]

I wouldn't fully rely on people's posts. Jump online and read Kansas law or try an app I discovered on App Store called CCW. Read the law. A law official won't take "some guys online said it was ok " as a defense.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Welcome to THR!

Check this website out:

www.handgunlaw.us/states/kansas.pdf

Handgunlaw.us is kept pretty up-to-date, and the beauty of the site is that they cite state statutes and provide links to the source data. Plus the layout of information is the same for each state; so once you read through Kansas and get a feel for where specific info is written, you'll be able to easily find the same info for every other state.

Open carry without a permit is legal in Kansas. See page 8 under "Open Carry".

 

[jonsmithrf]

Unfortnately that doesnt contain the information that I need. My question is : can i open carry a pistol as soon as I arrive in Kansas or do I have to wait until I have a Kansas ID or a Kansas drivers license.

 

[pdsmith505]

IANAL, so this opinion and a dollar will get you coffee at McD's.

Looking at the Kansas statute relating to criminal carrying of a weapon (21-6302 here), I see no place where it even mentions state of residency regarding openly carrying a firearm, let alone prohibits it. Not prohibited = legal.

 

[Vernon1]

Read The Law

Folks who live in Kansas are great people.


Read The Law or contact them asap.

 

[BSA1]

Do you have a Conceal Carry License from Vermont?

 

[Speedo66]

Do you have a Conceal Carry License from Vermont?

You don't need a license to carry concealed in VT, so they don't issue them.

 

[jonsmithrf]

First off thank you to everyone who took the time to help me. I did a lot of research today. Apparently Kansas became a constitutional carry state on July first. This means my Vermont ID card affords me the same right to concealed carry in Kansas that it does here. I double and triple checked. I can load my pistol as soon as I get out of the airport parking lot.
Thank you guys for all the help.

 

[BSA1]

Alas I didn’t think Vermont issued Conceal Carry license. If so solving your problem would be easy.

According to Kansas law open carry is legal, but do I need a Kansas ID card to do so?.

I spent a lot of time this evening researching K.S.A.'s your question and my answer is I don't know.

I could not find the law that became effective on July 1, 2015. The only wording I could find was from the State Attorney General opinions where he says "a person" can Open Carry. It is not clear what the definition of a "a person" is.

I ask because I have to wait six months to apply for a concealed carry permit, and I strongly dislike being unarmed

I don't believe this to be true. Kansas allows conceal carry without a license. Again I could not determine if this was just for Kansas residents but I suspect it is. I am too tired to research the K.S.A. to determine if there is a certain time period required to establish residency.

The 6 months you are referencing is the time period for the State Attorney General to decide if the licensing requirements for your State meets Kansas training requirements. Since Vermont does not issue conceal carry permits this issue does not apply.

If you want to carry out of state then you will need to take Kansas Conceal Carry training class and apply for your license which costs $132.50. I urge you to take the class regardless as Kansas law does have a twist or two in it. For example the law is very specific about the type and location of signage businesses must post to ban conceal carry in their establishment. Yet there is nothing in the law about what the signage must be to ban Open Carry!

Don't trust any information you read on the Internet no matter how well intended they may be.

I suggest you do two things;

1. Contact the Kansas Attorney General through his website with your question about non-resident open carry.

2. Get a Kansas driver’s license or non-driver identification card as soon as possible. This will establish that you are a Kansas resident.

http://ag.ks.gov/docs/default-source/documents/concealed-carry-regulations.pdf?sfvrsn=6

http://www.ag.ks.gov/licensing/concealed-carry/statutes-regulations

http://www.ag.ks.gov/about-the-office/contact-us

Also I don't know where you plan to live and hang out but Kansas is pretty safe place to live in.

 

[rcmodel]

The way I understand it, as of July 1, 2015, there is no training or licensing requirement to carry open, or concealed.

But, I 'think' you might want to be a 'resident' first before you start doing it.

I also think you might want to pick & chose where you 'open carry'.

Small town Kansas farm country is one thing.
Everybody knows everybody, and what they are doing with a gun.
Been doing it since 1960 something.

Big city liberal Kansas is a dozen 911 'Man with a gun' calls from historical soccer moms shopping Walmart.

Use some common sense.
Don't be 'that guy' just trying to prove a point because you can.

rc

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Unfortnately that doesnt contain the information that I need. My question is : can i open carry a pistol as soon as I arrive in Kansas or do I have to wait until I have a Kansas ID or a Kansas drivers license.

Sorry about that.

It looks like you already have your answer, but the answer is probably also located on page 1 of the link I provided you earlier:

75-7c03. (c) (1) Subject to the provisions of subsection (c)(2), a valid license or permit to carry concealed weapons, issued by another jurisdiction, shall be recognized by this state, but only while the holder is not a resident of Kansas.


If you take a look at page 1 of the Vermont link below:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/vermont.pdf

Vermont Residents can carry in the states of Arizona, Alaska, Kansas and Oklahoma with just their state Issued Drivers License or State issued ID if they are 21 Years of age and can legally own a firearm.


So, yes...you are indeed covered.