New Kahr is very disappointing

[denfoote]

Gee,
All this negativity has caused me to doubt my MK9!!!
I'm loading it up, as we speak, for a trip to the range!!!
Like I need an excuse to go shooting!!

 

[gbran]

I bought a PM9. It came with a 6 and a 7 round magazine. The 7 rnd mag would never chamber the 1st round very well, but would cycle fine thereafter. Never had a problem with the 6 rnd mag. Bought another 6 rnd mag and again no problems.

 

[strambo]

I bought my K9 new and it isn't tight at all. A little bit loose (just right for carry) and 100% reliable. The further a design is tweaked from the origional, the less reliability. The PM40 is smaller, uses plymer and is in a different chambering than the origional, not surprised at the issues any more than with 3" 1911's.

 

[denfoote]

Mini Kahr range report.

In essence,
100 rounds. 100 gobangs. Two ragged holes in the black from 10 yards!!

This particular MK9 had had one recoil spring and one extractor replaced by me. It was aquired from a friend who may have replaced the recoil spring as well. It's seen a lot of use and it's still going strong!!

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

update

I took my PM9 out again yesterday and ran 100 rounds of hollowpoints through it both one- and two-handed, no problems. Too bad it took hundreds of rounds, a 30-mile trip to the UPS hub in Mesa, $51 for shipping to Kahr and a three-week wait.

The basic virtues of this gun remain unchanged, however. Despite being thinner, shorter, flatter and about the same weight as a lightweight .38 snubnose revolver, it is far more pleasant and controllable to shoot than any snubnose revolver I've ever tried. No thunderous muzzle blast, no harsh kick, no pointing high, smooth trigger and a good sight picture make it easy to hit with, at least at close range.

 

[sevesteen]

I owned a Kahr P40 for a few days. Problems:

Fail to feed--Best ammo had only one per box, most other was 10% or worse fail to feed.

Slide stop: Several times found the slide stop engaged, even when I was being very careful to avoid it when firing.

Fail to fire--Fairly often got a click instead of bang--Apparently firing out of battery or something, since the primer was untouched.

Magazine fell out--After about 100 rounds or so, the extended magazine would fall out almost every shot.

Magazine follower--The short magazine has a metal tab on the follower to lock the slide back. This eventaully wound up working its way out, so that the magazine would only hold one round.

Would have been willing to send it back to Kahr for the fail to feed problems, but with so many different problems in one gun, I'd never be able to trust it as a carry gun.

 

[joneb]

Some years ago I tried my hand at growing turnips, turns out I grew the best turnips around. Folks came from all around to buy my turnips $$ it did'nt take long before I ran out Well next year would be different, I got some Miracle Turbo Turnip Grow and before I Knew it I was up to my eyeballs in turnips Folks came from all around and bought these turnips
Well the next year I did the same, this time I was over my head in turnips, in more ways than one I bought new farm equipment and built more barns $$$
After the harvest nobody came to by my turnips

 

[denfoote]

Ahhhhhh WHAT??????

 

[ccw9mm]

... growing turnips ... the best turnips ... Miracle Turbo Turnip ... up to my eyeballs in turnips ...

Must be the Hoppe's #9 fumes. We've got a thread over yonder that's just heatin' up.

 

[joneb]

Well I see the parable of the Turnip Grower has not gone over well the THR is a tough crowd .
I've seen this pheomenon Before , a manufacturer turns out a innovative quality product, and soon there is a high demand. The maker is faced with a dilemma , do I keep doin what I'm doin ? or increase production ? the latter may cause a difference in the quality of the product.

 

[orionengnr]

squeaky wheel gets the grease

and a rotten turnip analogy gets...hmmm.

Nearly all of the Kahr problems I have read of were in the first batch of polymer framed PMs...and the majority of those were PM40s.

In spite of all that, I almost talked myself out of buying a PM9. I waited a year, read some more, found a used one at a reasonable price, and bought it.

Mine has been 100% and is my favorite Texas summer (shorts or khakis) carry pistol, putting my S&W 340 PD in the safe (and maybe up for sale some day).

When (if) winter comes I now have a P45...a bit larger but at 18 oz, a very light and compact 45 acp...also as reliable as sunrise.

BTW, from what I have read, Kahr is very easy to deal with and works hard to fix any legitimate warranty issues.

 

[joneb]

Hmmm, I'm in the camp that say's if it aint broke don't fix it. New and improved is'nt always a good thing, example the 1911 it is what it is and what's wrong with that ? So Kahr has taken a good reliable pistol and put it on a plastic frame What's up with that ? Who cares what the Jone's is doing. Now they have reliability issues, If I made firearms that would be the last thing I would want.

 

[ABBOBERG]

I look at the Kahr PM40 as "the Mystery Gun". Gunwriters are loath to disclose any ballistic information, same for the manufacturer. Could it be that the .40 S&W cartridge actually produces less energy in the PM40 than the 9mm produces in a PM9? If that is the case, then why put up with the additional recoil, muzzle flash and noise?

If I'm going to buy a product that I might stake my life on, I would definitely want to read at least one test report on how the gun performs and how much stopping power it actually delivers.