New Legislation to Reinstate Gun Ban in National Parks

[usmarine0352_2005]

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They say you have a better chance of being struck by lighting then being attacked by a bear.


.....well, I remember numerous bear attacks last year with at least 1 death.




I only remember 1 gunman shooting anyone in a park last year. And I don't think a law saying "No Guns in Parks" would have stopped him from murdering a Park Ranger.




http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/02/17/mcd-dont-pack-heat-in-national-parks/

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McD: Don’t pack heat in national parks

In a display of defiance at the U.S. Capitol’s governing gun lobby, Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., and eight colleagues have introduced legislation to reinstate a ban on carrying loaded firearms in America’s national parks.

The legislation was prompted by January’s murder of Mt. Rainier National Park ranger Margaret Anderson. Anderson was shot as she set up a road block for a car that didn’t stop at a chain-up checkpoint.
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[Rich_S]

Liberals certainly never let a perfectly good tragedy go to waste....

 

[Old Fuff]

I am sure that Rep. McDermott's, (D-Wash.) proposed legislation will successfully thwart the kind of person who would kill a Park Range - or anyone else - from carrying firearms in National Parks.

Maybe he should also sponsor a "Please don't shoot our Rangers" bill to go with it.

It is truly sad that someone with so little brainpower can get elected to high office, but unfortunately the occurrence is not uncommon.

 

[19&41]

Nor can they pass a dead horse without giving it a good whippin'.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

I remember when that story broke here. It didn't take long for someone to complain about how this would never happen if the ban was in place.

 

[JustinJ]

They say you have a better chance of being struck by lighting then being attacked by a bear.


.....well, I remember numerous bear attacks last year with at least 1 death.

On average 55 americans die from lightning strikes each year. Hundreds more are hit but survive.

 

[Doc Sarvis]

Rich_S, unfortunately that kind of thinking happens on both sides of the political spectrum; in this case it just happens to be a Democrat who is overreacting.

I'll keep abreast of this law, but I don't think any of our Congresscritters from Texas are going to vote for it. Maybe I should write Mr. McDermott a nice, polite letter and tell him that as a tree-hugging Democrat I am very disappointed he would introduce legislation infringing on our right to keep and bear arms.

 

[tyeo098]

Rich_S, unfortunately that kind of thinking happens on both sides of the political spectrum; in this case it just happens to be a Democrat who is overreacting.

I'll keep abreast of this law, but I don't think any of our Congresscritters from Texas are going to vote for it. Maybe I should write Mr. McDermott a nice, polite letter and tell him that as a tree-hugging Democrat I am very disappointed he would introduce legislation infringing on our right to keep and bear arms.

The loaded guns are to protect the trees

 

[alsaqr]

Rich_S, unfortunately that kind of thinking happens on both sides of the political spectrum; in this case it just happens to be a Democrat who is overreacting.

Bingo, anyone remember who the president was in 1982 when the ban went into effect?

 

[alsaqr]

The nine co-sponsors are some of the usual suspects:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:16:./temp/~bdUfnp:@@@P|/bss/|

 

[suemarkp]

To me, this has nothing to do with bears. It is more of a convenience. If I want to carry at my source and destination, and I'm crossing through Mt Rainier Nat Park, I have to pull over before the park entrance, unload the gun, and put it in the trunk. When I leave, I can put it back on.

Philosophically, I'd like to carry in the park too because there could be a road rager, a wacko at any stop I'd make, and because self defense is a right you should always have.

 

[Mr.510]

Just another knee-jerk piece of legislation in an election year. It won't get anywhere, McD knows it, and it only exists so he and others can use it in campaign propaganda.

 

[El Mariachi]

In other news, a So Cal teenager fell thru a third floor window the other night while sleep walking. I'm waiting for a new law to appear on the ballot any moment now, either banning glass windows.....or teenagers.....

 

[MAKster]

Anyone can introduce legislation on any subject. The chance of this or any other gun control legislation being approved is zero while the Republicans hold the House and/or 40+ in the Senate.

 

[bigfatdave]

El Mariachi:
or gravity

 

[Prince Yamato]

I think sometimes these bills aren't intended to pass. They're put forward as a way of fishing around to see what the current gun/political climate is like. They're out there to see if there's any interest in the topic at hand; in this case, the interest is gun control.

 

[BamAlmighty]

I just don't get these people.

Do they think a ban puts of a magical barrier that stops people from carrying?

 

[hammerklavier]

On average 55 americans die from lightning strikes each year. Hundreds more are hit but survive.

That's not the way to look at this. When people say they should be allowed to carry guns in national parks, and the antis ask "Why?" some people respond, "For protection against bears, for one." Then the antis say "You're more likely to be struck by lightning than attacked by a bear."

While that is technically, true, it is a logical fallacy, because the context of the argument was guns in a national park (that presumably has bears). In a national park you are indeed more likely to be attacked by a bear than you are to be struck by lightening (in a national park).

In both cases, your behavior has a lot to do with whether the event occurs or not.

Additionally, a gun can be used to prevent/end a bear attack, but it is useless in preventing lightening from striking.

 

[hermannr]

Wouldn't expect anything different from McDummy and his buddies. He has to pander to his support base...

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The people who would not carry in the parks in accordance with the law would be lawabiding permit holders.

Was the killer law abiding? Did he have a permit? I believe he was a fugitive who had murdered people before fleeing to the park.

 

[Doc Sarvis]

That is the relevant point, Carl. The proposed law would punish law-abiding citizens and do nothing to prevent fugitive murderers from carrying out similar acts.

 

[bigfatdave]

That is the relevant point, Carl. The proposed law would punish law-abiding citizens and do nothing to prevent fugitive murderers from carrying out similar acts.

so ... a normal gun law?