New RCBS Bench Mounted Priming Tool System
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I see. Well we can't have stories spread that can't be verified, can we.
Here's the source of the "hand" picture, a link to the original Calguns thread. Convenient for Dillon, the pictures have been removed......guessing one of Photobucket's all too common gotchas or maybe Grant22 quit them. I'd like to, but I can't find anything better to do pictures.
Grant22's Calguns thread. There was another picture of the hand healed up a year later....maybe that one is still up.
As for "stories", I heard one time that Ostriches in Australia buried their heads to hide when danger came. If so it made it easy for the predator.....but I'm thinking that's just a story too.
Seriously, many of us have conceal carry licenses. Why? Do we expect an attack to be imminent, or one to come often? No. We carry because there is a slight outside chance that one could perhaps come our way. We carry for the peace of mind ... to be prepared. Same thing with primers.....the danger isn't imminent, nor do problems come often. But it happens. Most people who use progressives use primer tubes.....most people don't carry. We all have a choice. Nothing wrong with that. Do what you gotta do. Me, I guess I'm just a divergent troublemaker.
Here's the source of the "hand" picture, a link to the original Calguns thread. Convenient for Dillon, the pictures have been removed......guessing one of Photobucket's all too common gotchas or maybe Grant22 quit them. I'd like to, but I can't find anything better to do pictures.
Grant22's Calguns thread. There was another picture of the hand healed up a year later....maybe that one is still up.
As for "stories", I heard one time that Ostriches in Australia buried their heads to hide when danger came. If so it made it easy for the predator.....but I'm thinking that's just a story too.
Seriously, many of us have conceal carry licenses. Why? Do we expect an attack to be imminent, or one to come often? No. We carry because there is a slight outside chance that one could perhaps come our way. We carry for the peace of mind ... to be prepared. Same thing with primers.....the danger isn't imminent, nor do problems come often. But it happens. Most people who use progressives use primer tubes.....most people don't carry. We all have a choice. Nothing wrong with that. Do what you gotta do. Me, I guess I'm just a divergent troublemaker.
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Midway also carries the CCI primers pre-loaded in APS strips. Again, a $6 or $7 premium/1000 to get them that way.
But, that is about what you would pay for unloaded strips. The strips are re-usable.
I am sure other places carry them as well and maybe at a lower cost.
In my opinion, if you load the strips shortly before using them or adequately mark whats in them, the RCBS recommended color coding of the strip to indicate what primer is in the strip is irrelevant. When I fill my own APS strips, I like to alternate colors of the APS strip as I am priming cases. It makes it easier to know when the beginning and the end of the strip is.
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Ha! I heard that as a kid, and I've been reminded of it several times.
When it comes to reloading, here's one puzzle. Lots of people probably have many hundreds of dollars invested in their progressive reloading presses. Unless they can find a way to sell their old equipment, they're sort of stuck - or maybe they can reprime cases before running them through the progressive press.
Then there are others, like myself, who don't have a progressive press (yet). I don't have a lot of experience - what experience I do have was on a single station press in the 1980's and 90's. The more I read about the Dillon, and watched it on YouTube, the more I saw a time-bomb with a lovely machine built around it.
RCBS used to make a progressive, that uses the strips. It was on my want list, maybe a year or two down the road, until I read that the newest version uses the pipes like Dillon. Very foolish of them - at least they should have left it up to the user which method they want to use.
Two things ought to happen - first, RCBS should release the use of their strip feeder into the public domain, for the good of everyone. Second, users should demand a product that isn't so potentially dangerous. In all the time I've been reading about these things, I've only heard of two things that have injured or killed users - mistakes in the amount/type of powder, and primers detonating. I expect to read about a lawsuit against Dillon one of these days, for making and selling a device that has a history of being unsafe. That might not happen until someone gets killed, or does lose their eyesight.
Thanks for those who answered where to buy the strips with primers installed. I'd like to have enough of them, before something happens and they become as scarce as unobtainium!
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Mike, since you are going to use and load a few strips, you may be interested in a little improvement I made to the strip loader 2 years ago.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=710373&highlight=APS+strip+loader+mods
The above is not a necessity, just a convenience. In the mean time, when you get your strip loader also buy a cheap little wall paper roller, so you can make sure all the primer edges in your loaded strips are at least flush with the edge of the holes they are pressed in. That makes certain you don't have any of those hang ups that I'm sure caused all the heart burn in the few folks who couldn't figure out this "divergent" system out and hated it.
(or you can simply roll a round pencil over 2 or 3 loaded strips on a flat surface anvil side up.)
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=710373&highlight=APS+strip+loader+mods
The above is not a necessity, just a convenience. In the mean time, when you get your strip loader also buy a cheap little wall paper roller, so you can make sure all the primer edges in your loaded strips are at least flush with the edge of the holes they are pressed in. That makes certain you don't have any of those hang ups that I'm sure caused all the heart burn in the few folks who couldn't figure out this "divergent" system out and hated it.
(or you can simply roll a round pencil over 2 or 3 loaded strips on a flat surface anvil side up.)
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Thanks for the information - haven't even received my equipment yet - it should arrive tomorrow.
I think I should do what I usually do - try things just the way they come, and once I understand them, make modifications that others recommend. Your instructions sound fascinating. I read most of it last night, and will re-read once I'm using the tools. I'll probably buy a second device, so I can use one for reloading while I'm trying to modify the other as per your suggestions.
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I've been using an RCBS priming die nearly as long as I've been reloading, or about 30 years. I know there are faster tools out there, but for me, and my reloading needs, I can't personally justify the need to go any faster. I can prime about 15 case per minute, which is fine for my needs. And like the APS, I can adjust seating depth for repeatable depth, pocket depth variations aside. It uses the same shell holder for the cartridge used for all other operations, so no special one needed. In the number of years I've been at it, I've yet to have a single mis-fire, or any other primer related issue. And it only costs about $20 -$25.
I know it's probably just me, but I don't like the idea of shaking 100 primers around in a tray, kind of gives me the willy's. I do like the concept of that APS system, but my current long time system has been quick enough for my needs. I guess it's just that lingering question in the back of my mind, what if?
Good video there, very explanatory and informative
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I know it's probably just me, but I don't like the idea of shaking 100 primers around in a tray, kind of gives me the willy's. I do like the concept of that APS system, but my current long time system has been quick enough for my needs. I guess it's just that lingering question in the back of my mind, what if?
Good video there, very explanatory and informative
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