New ruger 44 special

[sig220mw]

I ordered a new ruger 44 special back in October and got it on Dec 30 and had to call ruger the 31st in order to have it sent back to them for repairs.
When I picked it up I was running late had to hurry and didn't get to examine it closely. This is the 11th ruger product I have had in about 35 years and I have never had one that disappointed me. The finish is coming off the frame just below the loading gate. Actually where the loading gate hits it when open. There is a pretty good nick there, it's as if the gate is out of line or not shaped correctly. Anyway it is gouging the frame. There is also a scratch about 1/2 inch from the end of the barrel on the right side of the front sight. It goes completely though the finish just like the gouge below the gate. Last but not least when the hammer is let down or dropped in dry fire ( I've not yet fired it ) there is still movement in the hammer that is both visible and audible. You can push the hammer forward and it moves and makes a clicking sound. It was unbelievable to me that it could have gotten through quality control. Ruger said they would have ups pick it up Monday.
I enclosed a note describing the problems. Any of you ever experience this with a new Ruger? I never have.

 

[bestseller92]

I had to send a new Ruger Mini 14 back because it shot way left. Ruger ended up replacing it.

 

[ljnowell]

I wouldnt be surprised at all. I ordered a new single six, it came in with rust all over it and bound up. The new one came in to replace it and had rust on it in less than three weeks. Back again. Ruger QC sucks nowadays. I will never buy a ruger unless I handle the exact one I am purchasing.

 

[mm6mm6]

I recently bought a new Ruger LCP, LCR, SR9, Mini-14, SR-556, and a Blackhawk .44 Special. A friend bought a new Mini-14 too.

Absolutely no problems with QC, fit/finish, or functioning with any. All were perfect.

I'd buy a Ruger in a heartbeat. It's just my opinion, but I believe Ruger to be an excellent firearms manufacturer making quality products that are on the cutting edge of what the public desires.

 

[bestseller92]

Ruger did have some QC problems in recent years, but from what I hear they are much better these days.

 

[ShakyJake]

mm6mm6
Don't be a spoil sport, this is a rant thread:banghead:, not a rave thread!!!
If you want to rave about Rugers, go start your own thread.
TaKe CaRe
Ted

 

[sig220mw]

mm6mm6

I've always loved rugers and never had a problem until this most recent purchase and I was shocked with the flaws (that's plural ) it exhibited.

As I said I've been buying rugers for 35 years at least, hell now that I think about it closer to 40 years. Never had a problem. In this case what is so bad about it is that this was a much bally hooed special run that you would think they would really want to get as near perfect as possible. They obviously want to sell them as they now list them as a new product instead of a special run.

To make matters worse I had to wait over 2 and 1/2 months for it to arrive after I ordered it just to have to box it up and send it back. This thing should have never gotten out of the door with flaws so obvious. I mean when I saw the 2 gouges which were very visible I couldn't believe my eyes.

 

[mm6mm6]

I must admit that my Ruger Blackhawk .44 Special is all scratched up....





But the rest are all fine!

 

[Robby from Long Island]

You're right. Far too many scratches, and those bleached grips, UGH. Anyway, I'll take it off your hands for fifty bucks, and that's my best offer.

 

[sig220mw]

Thanks a lot.... I have a bad experience and YOU thinks it's funny and feel you have to continue to rub it in.

Nice.

Merry Christmas.

 

[Robby from Long Island]

Sig220mw,

Sorry, I was referring to the post submitted by mm6mm6 with the pictures of that beautiful scroll work. Was just being a clown, wasn't referring to your post.

 

[sw282]

Havent owned a rugger pistol in years. Handled a 50th Anniversary SBH at the range the other day. Terrible trigger. Another SBH too. Bad triggers. Both of em

 

[ljnowell]

Havent owned a rugger pistol in years. Handled a 50th Anniversary SBH at the range the other day. Terrible trigger. Another SBH too. Bad triggers. Both of em

Thats fixed for free in less than five minutes. Google poor boy trigger job for ruger single actions.

ETA:
http://www.gunblast.com/Poorboy.htm

 

[salvo]

I have bought the 4 5/8" and 5.5" .44 Specials and the build quality on both is top notch.
Hope they remedy the situation for you sig220!

 

[JellyJar]

mm6mm6

Those are beautiful grips, what are they made of? Who made them?

Thanks

Jelly

 

[mm6mm6]

SigP220, I do hope your situation is remedied to your satisfaction. I've found my Ruger Blackhawk to be an exceptional shooter and a truly wonderful addition to my collection.

JellyJar, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT go to Cary C's website unless you have some time on your hands! Here is the link to his site:

http://www.clccustomgrips.com/

Just click on the Ruger model you want to look at grips for on the left side or click on his grip blanks. After you look at a set of grips, be sure to "CLICK HER FOR MORE PICTURES" to see Cary's amazing photography and how the grips will look on the gun.

A huge advantage of Cary's Ruger grips is that he can installed any period style Ruger medallions for you. He also can make the screw and escuteon hardware in either blue, black, or nickel to match your gun.

Cary also supplies an aluminum spacer that fits between the grips. The screw goes through the middle of the spacer and prevents overtightening the screw and cracking the grips. That's a nice custom touch.

The handles on my engraved Blackhawk are birdseye maple. They have black hardware. I also have another set of birdseye maple on my Single Six with nickel hardware. Both are his "Gunfighte" style that are slightly thinner in the center section. Cary is amazing!

 

[Mr. Whimsy]

To the OP

I sympathize, I too have had disappointments from Ruger. I have had to send Rugers back right out of the box for colossal problems you might associate with Taurus. I now only purchase them from Davidson's as they will let you exchange a bad OTB gun for another of that model. Depressingly, I have had to take advantage of this after a much anticipated purchase.

IMHO, there is a lot of Ruger Kool-aid drinking on here, and I'd even speculate that Ruger has some investors promoting them on these sites. The truth is:

1) They are built like tanks - tanks with an Achilles heel, the 5 cent transfer bar. I have actually broken the transfer bars on 2 Rugers, both SA and DA. Do not dry fire them. They will also get loose and out of time if you use them hard.

2) Accuracy-ruining lawyer-proof triggers, might as well send it to the gunsmith before you even fire it. Fantastically over-sprung, so much so it would actually knock me off target when the hammer fell.

3) Poorly finished blued guns - one 50th Anniversary Mk II literally had the finish peel off. Because it was paint.

4) Expensive for what you get. The cost goes up $35 every year, and now you can just about afford a Smith and Wesson for what they want for a Super Redhawk.

5) Indifferent about .45 Colt accuracy with undersize chamber mouths. Might have corrected this since I gave up on them.

6) Now Shipping With Horrible Grips that Please No One. Have fun buying good grips for your expensive gun. Their grips were wonderfully designed for my small hands, so of course they did away with that. Don't even get me started on the cheese graters that come on SA's now.

Sorry I just get sick of the "get a Ruger, they're what God chooses when he buys a gun" crowd. They were once really great guns. Could be again.

 

[bonez]

Sorry for your troubles

"They are built like tanks - tanks with an Achilles heel, the 5 cent transfer bar. I have actually broken the transfer bars on 2 Rugers, both SA and DA. Do not dry fire them. They will also get loose and out of time if you use them hard."

Sorry you have had this experience. Mine has been just the opposite. I have 2 Vaqueros with over 20,000 rounds through each, and at least 2 hours of dry fire per week for the last 5 years. No trouble at all with either one of them. Two other vauqeros with less use (maybe 10,000 rounds each), 3 blackhawks, and a GP100. All with transfer bars, all that see heavy use, all with no issues what so ever. No broken transfer bars, no timing issues, and no "getting loose" at all. Calibers are .357, 44 Mag, and 41 Mag. I must be the "lucky" one.

 

[ljnowell]

1) They are built like tanks - tanks with an Achilles heel, the 5 cent transfer bar. I have actually broken the transfer bars on 2 Rugers, both SA and DA. Do not dry fire them. They will also get loose and out of time if you use them hard. As opposed to 1200 pythons that shoot themselves loose?

2) Accuracy-ruining lawyer-proof triggers, might as well send it to the gunsmith before you even fire it. Fantastically over-sprung, so much so it would actually knock me off target when the hammer fell.Guess you never heard of the poor boy trigger job either, its linked above

3) Poorly finished blued guns - one 50th Anniversary Mk II literally had the finish peel off. Because it was paint.the bluing does suck

4) Expensive for what you get. The cost goes up $35 every year, and now you can just about afford a Smith and Wesson for what they want for a Super Redhawk.Yeah, ok. Let me know how that smith holds up shooting nuclear handloads the redhawks love to eat.

5) Indifferent about .45 Colt accuracy with undersize chamber mouths. Might have corrected this since I gave up on them.My 45 colt BH is great. Cylinder throats are dead on.

6) Now Shipping With Horrible Grips that Please No One. Have fun buying good grips for your expensive gun. Their grips were wonderfully designed for my small hands, so of course they did away with that. Don't even get me started on the cheese graters that come on SA's now.Expensive gun? Compared to what? A Kel-Tec?

Sorry I just get sick of the "get a Ruger, they're what God chooses when he buys a gun" crowd. They were once really great guns. Could be again.

I guess l'm one of those investors trolling the boards?

 

[Mr. Whimsy]

I will add that the dry firing was without snap caps, since at the time Handguns magazine said it was fine. They would be wrong.

As opposed to 1200 pythons that shoot themselves loose?

I don't know what you are talking about. Only that my cylinder lockup got loose and they went back to Ruger. In other words, they are not immune to normal wear n tear as some would have you believe.

Guess you never heard of the poor boy trigger job either, its linked above

Guess you never heard of manners. I don't think I'm going to let you talk to me that way. The PBTJ has never, ever improved a trigger for me in any measurable way. Wouldn't it be easier if they just did it right from the factory? You are paying them, yet you seem to want to do their work. Whatever.

Yeah, ok. Let me know how that smith holds up shooting nuclear handloads the redhawks love to eat.

Snarky-ness never won anyone over, son.
I will give out before the Smith does. If the above turns your crank, more power to you. Why don't you tell us how many 2009 Smiths have you destroyed?

Expensive gun? Compared to what? A Kel-Tec?

Super Redhawk = $619
Smith & Wesson 629 Classic = $690
Why are you so full of yourself? It's just an opposing opinion. Are you really that threatened by other opinions?

I guess l'm one of those investors trolling the boards?

Maybe you just have a lot to learn about people.

 

[goodtime]

I'm a big fan of the results of the PBTJ as I experienced on my four Blackhawks.
I think the factory isn't willing to go quite so light on the trigger pull for legal reasons. The other part, the smoothing of the trigger and sear, certainly could be done at the factory with minimal cost to the manufacturer, good point.
I also have gotten the impression that purveyors of special interests express themselves in this forum. I just recognize it and interpret it accordingly.

 

[ljnowell]

I'm a big fan of the results of the PBTJ as I experienced on my four Blackhawks.
I think the factory isn't willing to go quite so light on the trigger pull for legal reasons. The other part, the smoothing of the trigger and sear, certainly could be done at the factory with minimal cost to the manufacturer, good point.
I also have gotten the impression that purveyors of special interests express themselves in this forum. I just recognize it and interpret it accordingly.

That cant be true, because as posted above, it does nothing. Just dont tell that to mine, because they sure got better. Someone above is on a S&W recruiting mission, so nothing will improve a ruger.

 

[ljnowell]

I don't know what you are talking about.

You plainly said, regarding rugers:

They will also get loose and out of time if you use them hard

Wouldn't it be easier if they just did it right from the factory? You are paying them, yet you seem to want to do their work. Whatever.

No gun should ever need a trigger job, right?

Snarky-ness never won anyone over, son.

The sweet irony. Talking down to someone isnt snarky, is it?

Super Redhawk = $619
Smith & Wesson 629 Classic = $690

Thats an awful good price on that smith, i would buy one for that price. Buds has them listed for 750, where did you find that price?

 

[Mr. Whimsy]

Those are dealer prices. Mighty close aren't they?

I shared my experiences and opinions. Ask yourself why you took that personally. It would be nice if this place could be an open, honest exchange of ideas. I think I'm allowed to have an opinion other than yours, and I'm not going to let anybody dissuade me from posting an alternative viewpoint.

You are perfectly welcome to post your opposing experiences. I find it informative when people share, just like the gentleman above who talked about how many trouble-free rounds he put through his Rugers. I learned something from his post.

Didn't learn so much from the pi$$y personal attacks of me.

I'd like to raise the level of discourse around here. Anyone who wants to share their thoughts should be able to without fear of being trolled. This encourages diversity and pulls in people from all walks of life who just want to talk about their experiences and love of shooting.

If you feel "talked down to", it's because I tend to condescend to people I don't respect. I'm not one of those people who feel that "respect has to be earned", but my respectf can sure be lost in a hurry. Knee-jerk emotional over-reactions reflect a childish intolerance that is not worthy of my respect nor anyone else's.

It's time for decent folk to take back this forum.

 

[ljnowell]

Those are dealer prices. Mighty close aren't they?

I shared my experiences and opinions. Ask yourself why you took that personally. It would be nice if this place could be an open, honest exchange of ideas. I think I'm allowed to have an opinion other than yours, and I'm not going to let anybody dissuade me from posting an alternative viewpoint.

You are perfectly welcome to post your opposing experiences. I find it informative when people share, just like the gentleman above who talked about how many trouble-free rounds he put through his Rugers. I learned something from his post.

Didn't learn so much from the pi$$y personal attacks of me.

I'd like to raise the level of discourse around here. Anyone who wants to share their thoughts should be able to without fear of being trolled. This encourages diversity and pulls in people from all walks of life who just want to talk about their experiences and love of shooting.

If you feel "talked down to", it's because I tend to condescend to people I don't respect. I'm not one of those people who feel that "respect has to be earned", but my respectf can sure be lost in a hurry. Knee-jerk emotional over-reactions reflect a childish intolerance that is not worthy of my respect nor anyone else's.

It's time for decent folk to take back this forum.

You have ten posts, and are accusing someone of trolling?