NEW Ruger M1 Carbine!

There was an aftermarket M1 Carbine stock for the 10/22; it had the oiler slot and GI handguard; I installed an aperture receiver sight, and a guarded front sight, and found an oiler at a gunshow.
The original Ruger PC9 definitely has the M1 Carbine vibe, though it has a stout poly stock.
As regards reloading the .30 Carbine, it was my understanding that lube was required to resize the brass; just too much trouble.
Moon
 
I load a good bit of 30 Carbine and while you do lube the cases, its no big deal and still an easy and simple round to load. Cost effective too.

I had one of the take down Ruger PC's for about a month before I traded it off. Couldnt stand the thing. An M1 Carbine it isnt. The PC is heavy for what it is, klunky, not all that accurate, and zero repeatability on takedown and reassembly isnt/wasnt good. Ive owned and shot a number of blowback, open bolt SMG's that were simpler, and lighter, and had a smoother and lighter recoil impulse. Not sure what Ruger was thinking there in that design.

Comparing the PC to the GI 30 Carbine is a joke, and not a comparison at all.
 
halfmoonclip said:
As regards reloading the .30 Carbine, it was my understanding that lube was required to resize the brass; just too much trouble.
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Really it's no trouble, 30 years ago when you had to roll the cases on a pad the taper on the 30 Carbine meant you had to lube them like any other bottle neck and couldn't just use carbide dies like other straight wall pistol cases. But we've had spray lube for years now that's so easy I lube everything now.
 
I forget, what are the bullet choices in .30 carbine?
110 FMJ and 110 soft points?
Haven’t seen carbine ammo at the hardware store in many years.
Not for me.
 
I owned an IBM carbine for a couple of years in the 90s and reloaded for it with cast bullets. My gun had the unfortunate habit of the op rod overrunning the bolt so I traded it for something I don’t even remember now. I wish I still had it now even with all its flaws.

My dad was issued a carbine as part of a mortar crew in Korea. He was only in combat for about six weeks before he was wounded, but he had absolutely nothing good to say about the gun.
 
Ive owned five GI Carbines and once I corrected a few things, rebuilt the bolts, properly restaked the rear sights and properly zeroed the arsenal replaced front sights, etc, they worked and shot great.

The Carbines suffer from the same thing the 1911's do in "war story" reports. Lots of misinformation and BS.


This was my PC and one of my Winchesters in comparison. About all thats close, is the overall size. Handling and shooting are very different, and the Carbine is lighter and better balanced, and its accuracy is better.

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I really want a PC carbine wood stock.

I also shake my head at why manufacturers with modern manufacturing tech can’t come up with a locked breech 9mm PCC, and insist on giving us all these blowback designs that are needlessly heavy for the cartridge.

That being said the PC carbine is still a great gun -for what I paid for it one day on Gunbroker. I would not even dream of buying one at MSRP however.
 
Nodakdad said:
I don't find 30 Carbine really any tougher to load than other rounds. But I do love the round and I like the 10/22. So I had a few extra M1 Carbine stocks around, took the one with the most repairs and grabbed my Dremel, oh boy the saw dust flew. At the end it turned out pretty well, both stock and hand guard are USGI. The mag I had a 15 round that was rough and bent up. So chopped it off, and pinned and JB Welded it to the Ruger 10 round mag. Found a place online selling M1 styled sights for the 10//2 so stuck them all together and got this.
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Wow, love it!
 
TTv2 said:
I asked years ago why the .30 Carbine has never been put in a different platform than the M1 Carbinein a production scale and the consensus was the 762x39 and .223 have it beat in range, accuracy, and effect.

Now we have stuff like .300 BLK and 5.7, so the modern day tech has made an 85 year old cartridge obsolete and the industry has decreed it is only suitable for use in repros and maybe select few single action revolvers.
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Taurus just a few years ago made an all-new .30 Carbine select-fire rifle for the Brazilian police. Apparently they thought it wouldn't over-penetrate the flimsy hovel construction they were encountering in dense urban favala environments.

It didn't do well, though not as a failure of the cartridge. Taurus ended up buying them all back.

The CT9 blowback carbine used many of the same parts and mine was perfectly reliable. Unfortunately, you could never get spare factory magazines. Each gun shipped with a single, unique 10-rounder and no extras were ever imported. I did end up modding both Colt and UZI mags to function with it, but the conversion was laborious. My buddy has the gun now and still loves it.
 
PO2Hammer said:
I forget, what are the bullet choices in .30 carbine?
110 FMJ and 110 soft points?
Haven’t seen carbine ammo at the hardware store in many years.
Not for me.
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Right now, you're stuck with RN plated or FMJ, the manufacturers aren't bothering to produce soft points for .30 Carbine and haven't since Covid started.
 
JCooperfan1911 said:
Well not quite, but mine certainly evokes it:

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This is one of Strum Ruger’s and Co. new 9X19MM Parabellum Luger NATO automatic rifles. I have outfitted it with a stock mounted pouch holding twin spare clips and green web sling. Together with the peep sights it looks and feels very similar to a U.S. Carbine, Cal .30, M1.

A nifty gun for sure. While underpowered for personal defense (much like the actual M1C) this new Ruger is a hoot to shoot and is especially popular for women and youthes. It would make a decent training rifle before stepping them up to a serious caliber weapon. Also, the cartridge is inexpensive and report is minimal.

My heart will always be with proper walnut and blued steel lever guns, but for the price these plastic plinkers have their niche when desiring a central-fire cartridge for recreational use. It could probably also be used on game around Jack rabbit size. Take care and god bless.
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Yep, it looks like it could do the job, all right! For those naysayers that don't like its looks, Henry has just marketed a walnut and blue carbine that looks very nice...to me, anyway.;) For years, I schemed how to put the 357 Magnum into an M1 carbine. It doesn't seem like that will ever happen, but one of the the new straight-wall cartridges...hmmmm....:cool:
 
So you can choose between a svelte .30 carbine with ammo as rare as hen’s teeth or a clunky 9mm carbine with plenty of ammunition available.

I chose the 9mm because I have a basement full of 9mm components and a press dedicated to the 9.

Shot my ‘Ruger M1 Carbine’ again today.
Had taken it down and put it back together, removed the Sig Romeo 5 and put back on and it stayed perfectly zeroed. No signs of a wandering zero, 100% reliable, very accurate.
Added a sling, really like that.
Seems to get lighter every time I handle it.
 
What about engaging vehicles (9mm vs 5.56)?
Im not thinking everything is gonna be indoors in defensive situation.
 
JCooperfan1911 said:
Well not quite, but mine certainly evokes it:

View attachment 1158506

This is one of Strum Ruger’s and Co. new 9X19MM Parabellum Luger NATO automatic rifles. I have outfitted it with a stock mounted pouch holding twin spare clips and green web sling. Together with the peep sights it looks and feels very similar to a U.S. Carbine, Cal .30, M1.

A nifty gun for sure. While underpowered for personal defense (much like the actual M1C) this new Ruger is a hoot to shoot and is especially popular for women and youthes. It would make a decent training rifle before stepping them up to a serious caliber weapon. Also, the cartridge is inexpensive and report is minimal.

My heart will always be with proper walnut and blued steel lever guns, but for the price these plastic plinkers have their niche when desiring a central-fire cartridge for recreational use. It could probably also be used on game around Jack rabbit size. Take care and god bless.
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I’m thinking you just denigrated the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1.
 
After reading thru these posts, I went out the shop and poked around. Found two boxes of Speer 110gr RN jacketed SP. #1645? Must of had these for 20-25 years.
Forget what I loaded them in. Maybe 30-30 for desert plinking. Well, I'll be.
 
IWAC said:
For years, I schemed how to put the 357 Magnum into an M1 carbine. It doesn't seem like that will ever happen, but one of the the new straight-wall cartridges...hmmmm.
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If you want a semi auto carbine that launches the same weight bullets at the same velocities as a 357 Carbine just get a 300 blackout.
 
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