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Give me a second before you laugh and tell me to get out of here. I took the family roller skating today. Had to, it's snowing here, Missouri, and the wife promised the daughter. Any ways, as I'm getting my balance back, it's been about 25 years since the last time I've skated, a thought hits me. Would this be a good way of practicing drawing a weapon, keeping your balance, aquiring your target, keeping it , and firing? I know this sounds off the wall, but, the biathelon seems alittle weird to me. So why not skip the snow, and try it with roller skates and a pitsol or a SMG? You do the same thing with pistol and rifle comps, so why not. This is strictly for training, not trying to compete.
And no I did'nt fall and hit my head first. I am also considering trying my CQB and martial arts training while skating, to help with keeping your balance.

Off the wall yes i know, so have at it.
 
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it would definitly help with ballance i used to mess around on a treadmill walking with my pump action and snap caps practiceing pointing at things while walking and reloading and just messing around.
 
If you included some loose ball bearings and banana peels, it might be something Gary Larson would draw a comic about.
 
we do it up here in North Dakota all the time on ice... its called hockey, but seriously the thought of rollerskating quick draw is hilarious
 
My first thought was of a Looney Tooon-ish variety.

Put on skates, point machine gun in opposite direction of desired travel, and fire!

I wonder if there would be enough sustained recoil to gain any speed?

Sorry, I can't help myself sometimes! :D
 
Ignoring for the moment what your potential audience might think (You don't have a private indoor roller rink, do you?), I'm not sure that any skill gained in this exercise would prove at all useful in any scenario other than presenting a gun on roller skates. I have limited training time and money. I'm going to use it elsewhere.
 
I know what you're thinking. The point of the biathlon, though, isn't the balance of shooting from skis: its the ability to go all out on the skis, stop, get control of your balance and breathing, and shoot accurately and quickly. The same thing can be accomplished by going on a short run right before you hit the range, or even by doing quicky drills at the range. Drop and do fifty, hit the firing line, draw, fire.
 
Any training that has you trying to hit targets while your breathing level is elevated is a good one.

Part of my former agencies annual training included running and then shooting.

Breathing fast and trying to stay on target is not as easy as you think, and I guarantee you will be breathing deep and fast if you get into an actual "situation".
 
What do you propose to improve with this training? How will you measure it, and what is your baseline? How will you separate the effect of this training from any other training you are doing?

Go forth and do science!
 
If you're ensuring safe weapons-handling, go for it. I see the point - I get what you're trying to do.
Having thought about it as a training technique, this is what I have to offer.

Fundamentals - What is it you're doing / what do you want to accomplish?
Balance.
When I played hockey we grappled on skates. Taught you when to push, pull, give, and take. While this is similar to what you'd be after, I see the coefficient of drag (the wheels) not giving you a fair re-creation of what will happen when you're on your feet (shoes to ground).
But yes, I think it will develop your balance.
(perhaps, not the best way)

Remember that, in balance, it is not solely a function of your equilibrium but the necessary muscles to effect your counter-balance. i.e. your stabilizer muscles. Those need to be trained and worked just as importantly as your overall 'sense' of balance.

Therefore, without drawing or gun handling, the best way I see to increase your balance AND strengthen your stabilizers is to use, (what I will call) an "ankle balancer". And I'll explain.
When I tore my ACL, MCL, PCL part of my physical rehabilitation was to use a round flat device that had a small ball in the bottom center. It was wobbly to stand on, forcing one or two ankles to move in all directions, flexing and relaxing to maintain your balance. There is a kids toy that is almost identical, its a bouncy thing. After about 5 minutes an ankle, those muscles and tendons were screaming from an intense workout.

If this balance your after is based on maintaining your center of balance or rather not being knocked off balance during the initial response to a threat, I'd highly recommend training with a partner. I've always found role-playing (for some reason) silly in nature, but invaluable as a practice. Most street encounters will stem from one person touching another. An elbow, a finger in the chest or face, a shove.
Going hands on is a great way to work on your balance. A wife, training partner, or friend. You're not trying to Mike Tyson Knockout anyone, you want a stun that makes them back up, give you that crucial time and distance to draw. When it comes to shoves or pushing, I personally, try to train not to push back. Taking a few extra steps back to regain balance, I can lower my and widen my gate for an attack and I've just gotten out of the kill box by backing away. Now I've got time and space to draw and present.

With a little modification, I think you have a great idea based on some sound fundamental principles. Good job on that one! Keep em' coming.
 
Like I said, it was a wacked out idea. Yes, I did think about the safety issues. Falling, dropping the weapon, others around, etc. It may have something to look into later on. I don't know, it was just a quick thaught. Like Bliggida said, they may be something to it. I don't know.
It may been that I was still standing, and was thinking "this is easy, what else can I do?"
And to those of you with the cartoon flach backs, yes I did think of something like that. What would the effect of me shooting my 12ga while on skates?
 
I don't see anything you will get from rollerblades (can you even find roller skates?) that can be transferred to regular footwear. Rollerskate movement won't even mimic ice or other slippery surfaces since you are limited to linear movements based on direction of feet whereas real-world surfaces are not limited to this.

You may even learn bad balance habits which won't be useful if you ever do need to fight on uneven surfaces.

If you want to be challenged, I'd suggest you start with traditional firearms trainers who have organized training progression courses which start you on your feet, then add movement, then will teach how to fight at contact-ranges and while on the ground. This is how military and LEOs train for the real world, I doubt a set of rollerskates will do much except maybe get someone hurt.
 
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