New winchester powders being relesed at shotshow 2023

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I have zero interest in ball powders in precision rifle. The advantage of that form factor is dispensing on a progressive and I don't load that way. The benifit to me would be people buying the new stuff and leaving the varget, benchmark and 8208 on the shelf for me.


That’s one way to look at it.
 
Id take a Varget speed ball powder thats more temperature stable than CFE223. Great for bulk 308 reloading on a pregressive. Lets me save my Varget for stuff that I need it for. Not too sure on the magnum stuff though, but who knows.
 
Shooters world already makes your powder

Not quite as good as Varget, but close enough is good enough sometimes in some applications. Its still a stick powder, which isnt great in a rotary drop in a progressive. Im really looking for a ball powder that meters well and is reasonably stable, or at least more stable than CFE223. AA2520 is another candidate I have 2# of that I want to test this spring.
 
I still see that it is ridiculously priced high. This will be interesting, and am anxious to try it in my 30-06 and see how it performs.
 
Not quite as good as Varget, but close enough is good enough sometimes in some applications. Its still a stick powder, which isnt great in a rotary drop in a progressive. Im really looking for a ball powder that meters well and is reasonably stable, or at least more stable than CFE223. AA2520 is another candidate I have 2# of that I want to test this spring.
Used a pound of Shooters World power (handgun) that worked well and the next time I saw it for sale at a gun show, purchased another pound that was labeled the same. The second purchase was way different from the first and very dirty, even after adjusting the load it never was very consistent. Just not work saving a couple of dollars on the price.
 
REACH (Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals) compliance deals with the regulations that were created to improve the environment and protect human health. REACH addresses the risks associated with chemicals and promotes alternative methods for the hazard assessment of substances.
 
REACH (Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals) compliance deals with the regulations that were created to improve the environment and protect human health. REACH addresses the risks associated with chemicals and promotes alternative methods for the hazard assessment of substances.
Wasn't that applied to the 4 imr powders that just failed...
 
Over my chronograph, ball powders do not show any clear superiority in tighter extreme spreads and standard deviations over stick powders. I have shot kegs of AA2520, because it was cheap, and Accurate Arms told me they blended it to copy the IMR 4895 pressure curve by weight. While AA2520 shot very well, it was peaky, and it left a lot of fouling in the gas system of my M1a and AR15's.

I read somewhere that ball powders took a lot less time to manufacture which may be the reason the military adopted the stuff. Ball powders are typically double based, and double based powders have less than half the shelf life of stick powders. Since the taxpayer pays for the demilling of military munitions, the cost to DoD is just one of those things that the taxpayer must bear. But to me, having to pour out powders because they went bad is not something that makes me happy.

Without pressure curves on these new powders, we know nothing beyond blaring labels and end of history statements by compensated influencers. Just how much better, in percentages, are the new powders in terms of performance, than those old and nasty gunpowders? I as positive we are not going to see anything like pressure curve comparisons and quantified performance information.

Given powder stock blending, there is probably an infinite range of burn rates that can be achieved with powders, and I consider the powder du jour, just a fashion show.
 
That staball match looks like it'd be a good temp stable powder for 6mm ARC and .224 Valkyrie. May just have to grab some if I see any!
 
Not quite as good as Varget, but close enough is good enough sometimes in some applications. Its still a stick powder, which isnt great in a rotary drop in a progressive. Im really looking for a ball powder that meters well and is reasonably stable, or at least more stable than CFE223. AA2520 is another candidate I have 2# of that I want to test this spring.
I've had good luck with AA2520 in my 308's.I shoot the kinda new 169 grain Matchkings with excellent results.It seems to be very stable,especially for a ball powder,and it's a lot easier to meter in a powder measure.I don't shoot long range a lot this time of year,but when I get going in the spring,I'll be shooting more 2520 than Varget.
 
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