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New Winchester primers?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by vulcan, Jan 2, 2003.

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  1. vulcan

    vulcan Member

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    The box of wsp I picked up recently came in a blue box & the primer cups are brass color. Does anyone know if there are any performance difference between the new & the old nickel cup primer?
     
  2. Captal_de_Buch

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    I've been using the new blue box primers for several years now. I didn't notice any performance difference when I switched.
     
  3. Bottom Gun

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    No difference - only the finish is different.
     
  4. Mal H

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    Haven't bought Winchester primers in a while, eh vulcan? :D

    They've been around for some time and work fine.
     
  5. Frohickey

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    I've used both the older Winchester primers in the white boxes, and the newer Winchester primers in the blue boxes.

    No difference.

    One thing I've seen though, at least on one batch of primers, is that I'm getting a lot of failure to fire a few times, about 2 out of every 100. And the rest of the 98 have light primer strikes. This is on Winchester Large Pistol primers, and out of multiple guns. I think that maybe this batch was made with thick primer cups.
     
  6. Bill Adair

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    Haven't noticed any difference in performance, but they sure are harder to flip in my Lee Autoprime tools! :mad:

    Pour a few in your flip tray, along with a few CCI primers, and push all of them to one side. Slowly tilt the tray until they slide to the other side. All of the non-coated primers slide to the low side, before any of the Winchester primers move. :rolleyes:

    Seems like they might cause problems in some gravity feed primer systems, like the Lee progressive presses?

    Bill
     
  7. jim-alex

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    Bill -

    I've pretty much switched 100% to Federal Primers, large and small because they feed MUCH better in my Lee Pro 1000. I never
    thought of any coating on the Winchester but that the Federal
    were polished/shiny/smoother. The Lee primer feed system can be finicky so I just removed one of the variables and have much better luck.

    Regards
    Jim
     
  8. Bill Adair

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    Jim,

    I'd buy Federal if I could find them, but our gun shows usually have Winchester, and sometimes CCI, but hardly ever Federal or Remington primers.

    I'm still pumping a single stage press, so it's not as much of a problem for me. :D

    dB
     
  9. bompa

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    I use nothing but Win. primers and have no problems at all..
    Been using them for almost forty years..
     
  10. bpisler

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    I've used winchester primers for years and found no difference in performance between the white and blue box's however winchester has only one primer now for regular or magnum loads,not 2 different primers when they came in the white box.
     
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    I had heard this, but when I went to the store to stock up last week, owner didn't have clue what I was talking about. Bought a 1000 magnum and 1000 regular small pistol primers both in the new Blue box:confused:
     
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    I don't know about winchester's small pistol primers but on the box for their large pistol primer(blue box)it said for standard or magnum loads.I was a little surprised by that.
     
  13. J Miller

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    I have both the old (plated) and the new (brass) Winchester WLP primers in my stock.
    I have found no difference in the performance of the loaded ammo, and I have had no FTF's. However all of my guns have full strength hammer springs.
    I do note that the new unplated brass primes have a different "feel" to them when I seat them. I use a Lee hand primeing unit, and it seems to take a bit more pressure to seat them fully.
     
  14. Poodleshooter

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    Hey Mal,
    Don't make fun of the guy! I still have a "white box" of Large rifle Magnum on my shelf. With 70gr powder charges, I can't afford to shoot those up quickly! :D
     
  15. Mal H

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    So do I. ;)

    Now Poodleshooter, I was just joshing with him. I never make fun of anyone ... with the exception of myself ... and Mike Irwin, but that's it! Well, maybe Dennis ... but no one else! Really!
     
  16. AZFred

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    Just FWIW

    Lee does not recommend the use of Federal primers with the Pro 1000. A caution tag comes with the press that says to use Winchester or (and this second one is from memory so might be wrong) CCI brands only.
     
  17. Mike Irwin

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    Careful, Mal, I know where you live...

    And I've got my eyes on a pair of speakers... :)
     
  18. Mal H

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    ... ok, just keep your eyes right there, this won't hurt a bit. [cranking up the output to 400 watts rms while playing Pinball Wizard] :)
     
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    (and Mike slips behind Mal and drops his Dixie Chicks CD into the machine...)
     
  20. Mal H

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    Arggghhh!! My ears! My ears!
    :D

    (I guess we've usurped this thread long enough. :) )
     
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