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Walters up.
The tragic mass murders in newtown broke all of our hearts....{father stuff}
When emotions are that high, it's even more important to take a step back, and thoroughly discuss and analyze an important issue like this, but that didn't happen here. The process was rushed and people of this state were shortchanged.
The tragic mass murders in newtown broke all of our hearts....{father stuff}
When emotions are that high, it's even more important to take a step back, and thoroughly discuss and analyze an important issue like this, but that didn't happen here. The process was rushed and people of this state were shortchanged.
Walter - When emotions are that high it becomes more important to take a step back...
This is something I've personally noted too. As a collective, we as a country don't make the best decisions when we react by emoting on fear/anger/anguish. One of the primary lessons of my adult civic life, and a point of agreement I've come to with even with friends who aren't pro-gun.
This is something I've personally noted too. As a collective, we as a country don't make the best decisions when we react by emoting on fear/anger/anguish. One of the primary lessons of my adult civic life, and a point of agreement I've come to with even with friends who aren't pro-gun.
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The people speaking are 2 to 1 AGAINST this.
SleazyRider
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Walters is doing a good job, but why do I get the feeling nobody is listening?
Barron up.
Expressing emotional pain.
Time to look to have those measures in place that will improve the conditions that citizens have..
... but I have concerns about the {speed this is going}
They're losing some moderates.
Expressing emotional pain.
Time to look to have those measures in place that will improve the conditions that citizens have..
... but I have concerns about the {speed this is going}
They're losing some moderates.
bigfatdave
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Is there a silent group that outnumbers them?
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Trent, if you're watching the whole thing and keeping notes, who stood out on the rights side?
I know I'm donating to a couple already, do you have the list of best/worst?
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Earlier on I wasn't earmarking everyone. (Was listening while working on a server, now my full attention is on the topic, except for my noisy kid that just got home from school)
All 5+ hours (and counting) of video are archived and can be viewed at your leisure on the link I provided at the top of this thread.
All 5+ hours (and counting) of video are archived and can be viewed at your leisure on the link I provided at the top of this thread.
Barron back up.
She's angry about security and social program funding not going to where it's needed (gang reduction, etc).
Unknown which way she's leaning.
Palmesano up.
Asking about fees for renewal A> no fees for renewal.
Any language that would prohibit the addition of the fee in the future. A> No, nothing authorizes it either.
Sate police database. Will the state assume all of the costs. A> Yes, that cost is minimal. Hundreds of thousands not millions. State will bear all costs.
Questions done. Speaking on the bill now.
She's angry about security and social program funding not going to where it's needed (gang reduction, etc).
Unknown which way she's leaning.
Palmesano up.
Asking about fees for renewal A> no fees for renewal.
Any language that would prohibit the addition of the fee in the future. A> No, nothing authorizes it either.
Sate police database. Will the state assume all of the costs. A> Yes, that cost is minimal. Hundreds of thousands not millions. State will bear all costs.
Questions done. Speaking on the bill now.
cauldron
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Even the people that are in favor say that the bill isn't perfect, or does not do enough, or needs work.
The arguments that it would not have changed a thing at the mass shootings are nice, but I think anyone supporting it knows this already, and does not care.
The arguments that it would not have changed a thing at the mass shootings are nice, but I think anyone supporting it knows this already, and does not care.
He's objecting to the process of the bill, to rush it, circumveting the vetting process, in an era of openness.
It seems like it only works when it's convenient.
Without public vetting it's unfortunate.
To rush this bill without any public hearings just to say we're the first it he nation to make a political statement on an issue that impacts the rights of our citizens is unfortunate.
It seems like it only works when it's convenient.
Without public vetting it's unfortunate.
To rush this bill without any public hearings just to say we're the first it he nation to make a political statement on an issue that impacts the rights of our citizens is unfortunate.
cauldron
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ANY political decisions made in a hurry, are never good.
and I almost never make absolute statements.
But this thing is skipping so many normal procedures..
and I almost never make absolute statements.
But this thing is skipping so many normal procedures..
cauldron
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NOBODY, including me, types as fast as you...
But we'll see what we can do.
But we'll see what we can do.
cauldron
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Blankenbush R 117th district, is talking about how all the mass shooters were on prescribed drugs. LOTS of examples going back into the '80s
cauldron I'm juggling 2 tech support tickets, supporting on site installation team, and trying to reschedule a packet capture concall with a third party vendor until tomorrow...
I type > 130wpm but still, tough to keep up with human speech.
I type > 130wpm but still, tough to keep up with human speech.
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