New York trigger for Gen 5 G19

[TonyAngel]

As the title suggests, I'm looking for a NY trigger spring for a G19 and am uncertain as to whether such a thing even exists.

I've been carrying a G48/43X for some time now, but recently got into a G19 for the purpose of running it in local matches. My goal is to improve upon the trigger reset. I've already installed a 3.5lb connector and reduced power striker safety plunger spring, along with an extra power striker spring.

What I'd like to do, assuming that a NY trigger spring is available for a Gen 5, is reduce the striker spring weight back to stock or maybe a 5# spring. I'm not so concerned about the weight of the pull, so much as having a very positive reset, although I would like to keep the pull weight in the 5 to 6lb range. I think that any more than that will start to affect speed and accuracy.

My question is ... is there a NY trigger spring compatible with a Gen 5 G19?

 

[L-2]

Yes, there are both a NY1 #39651 and NY2 #47337 gen5 trigger springs.

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/39651

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/47337

or

https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=glock+trigger+spring

 

[Riomouse911]

Hmmm. I have no idea what the NY triggers are other than having a heavier trigger pull than stock Glock triggers. All of my Glocks, except for the Gen 5’s, got Vickers flat faced trigger shoes (along with 5# striker springs, reduced power plunger springs, etc.) and the reset is easily felt with that set up.

My Q is; does the NY 1 spring make for more of a DA revolver-type trigger feel for the Glock, or does it snap the trigger back with more authority than stock for a more noticeable reset?

Thanks

Stay safe.

 

[Rule3]

Why would anyone want to put a NY trigger in a Glock.? Start working out and exercise you trigger finger!
They make the gun a heavy double action like revolver, Yes you can fiddle with other springs but not worth it. I tried many years ago

 

[JohnKSa]

The NY springs are a bit more reliable than the standard coil springs. I've never heard of one breaking while you do, occasionally, hear of a coil trigger spring giving up. Also, when the NY1 is combined with a "-" connector, the trigger pull is pretty similar to the stock trigger pull in terms of pull weight, but the pull is a little longer and the takeup portion of the pull is a little heavier. The heavier takeup sort of evens out the pull weight over the entire trigger pull and makes the trigger feel more like a light DA trigger than a two stage trigger. Also the very slightly longer pull can eliminate or reduce overtravel in the trigger. I have a Glock set up that way and find I shoot it very well. Better than a stock Glock trigger in some cases.

If you have a Glock with a lot of overtravel in the trigger that's giving you trouble, if you want maximum reliability, or you prefer a DA pull to a two-stage pull, it might be something to try out.

 

[Riomouse911]

The NY springs are a bit more reliable than the standard coil springs. I've never heard of one breaking while you do, occasionally, hear of a coil trigger spring giving up. Also, when the NY1 is combined with a "-" connector, the trigger pull is pretty similar to the stock trigger pull in terms of pull weight, but the pull is a little longer and the takeup portion of the pull is a little heavier. The heavier takeup sort of evens out the pull weight over the entire trigger pull and makes the trigger feel more like a light DA trigger than a two stage trigger. Also the very slightly longer pull can eliminate or reduce overtravel in the trigger. I have a Glock set up that way and find I shoot it very well. Better than a stock Glock trigger in some cases.

If you have a Glock with a lot of overtravel in the trigger that's giving you trouble, if you want maximum reliability, or you prefer a DA pull to a two-stage pull, it might be something to try out.

Thanks for the explanation.

I always thought the “NY -“ was just a mega heavy Glock trigger weight spring added to Glocks by NYPD admin.

Stay safe.

 

[JohnKSa]

If you install it with the standard connector, that's a pretty accurate description. There's no way I would use it in that configuration.

 

[drobs]

Reminds me, I have one of these sitting in a box in my gun room that I really should install one of these days:
https://johnnyglocks.com/collections/trigger-kits/products/edc-trigger-kit

 

[chicharrones]

The NY springs are a bit more reliable than the standard coil springs. I've never heard of one breaking while you do, occasionally, hear of a coil trigger spring giving up.

Makes sense since the original spring is an extension coil spring with loops that go through metal holes. Those loops are the weak spot, but I'll guess they will go thousands and thousands of trigger pulls.

The NY springs are also coil springs, but are compression springs in a polymer "keeper". So, they compress just like a hammer fired gun's hammer spring.

 

[chicharrones]

Thanks for the explanation.

I always thought the “NY -“ was just a mega heavy Glock trigger weight spring added to Glocks by NYPD admin.

Stay safe.

I bought one for my G36, I can't remember if it was the orange one of the olive one. I tried it to replicate a revolver's DA trigger pull. The main thing I didn't like about the NY spring is that you had to keep the trigger pressed to take the gun down.

With the regular spring, you pull the trigger once to dry fire the gun then use your hands to manipulate the slide and take down device.

With the NY spring, even after dry firing, the spring would interfere with the slide moving unless you kept the trigger pressed. I think I needed three hands to take down my G36 with that NY spring installed.

I don't know if the new Gray and Black Gen 5 NY springs have the same issue.

 

[JohnKSa]

Those loops are the weak spot, but I'll guess they will go thousands and thousands of trigger pulls.

Correct. It's not like the standard trigger spring is a reliability liability. I've never broken one. It's just that the NY springs never seem to break at all.

 

[L-2]

From ~Post 5 or 6 onward, the discussion went from a G19Gen5, to NY Glock trigger springs, in general; to older-style Glock trigger springs, e.g. Gen3 (or whatever Gen the G36 is).
The Gen5 guns use a different type of trigger spring (no trigger spring "hooks"), although some folks have managed to break the newer Gen5 trigger spring arrangement (the polymer "shaft" going through the trigger spring.
The optional NY Gen5 springs theoretically should make the trigger spring area more reliable; of course at the cost of an increased trigger pull.

 

[JohnKSa]

I don't have a great feel for the reliability of the Gen5 triggers IN USE although I am seeing a few reports of them breaking. I do know that people have broken them during disassembly/reassembly--in fact, that seems to have been enough of a problem in the early days of of the Gen5 pistols that even in the Advanced Armorer's class, the instructor would not allow the students (who were all already certified standard level armorers) to disassemble the trigger spring from the Gen5 Glock that he had on hand.

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that the NY spring might still offer a reliability advantage over the Gen5 stock spring even though it's a different design from the earlier models.

 

[Rule3]

Thanks for the explanation.

I always thought the “NY -“ was just a mega heavy Glock trigger weight spring added to Glocks by NYPD admin.

Stay safe.

It is. There is a #1 and #2 they were introduced when NYPD switch over from revolvers to Glocks The striker fired guns where to "hairy" for some to adapt to,

https://gundigest.com/gun-reviews/range-report-glock-new-york-trigger

 

[Atrox88]

I put an Evolution trigger from Johnny Glocks in my Gen5 G34 and it is fantastic. When I get home I will post some pull numbers on it. The reset is excellent.