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I am thinking of having the NY trigger put on my G36 and possibly the others.
I know it makes the pull slightly heavier but I've heard that it makes the pull "smoother" for lack of a better term.

Massad Ayoob recommends it as it is more durable and gives a "better" trigger pull.

I guess what I am looking to do is make the trigger pull 2-3# heavier, but at the same time make it smoother throughout the whole pull.

I definitely want it on my G36 for CCW, but if it makes the trigger pull more consistent and the reset more positive as many claim, I want to put it on my G21.

Does anyone have any input based on their experience?
My goal: Slightly heavier pull (for G36), more positive reset and more consistent trigger (G21+G36).

I don't care about the "safety between the ears" talk, this isn't why I am doing it. I just want my Glock to feel more like a light double-action only gun rather than feeling like a heavy single-action only gun if that makes any sense?
 
the NYC trigger...

i have one, and from time to time i get it out and stick it in one of my guns. then it goes back in the box. i have had more success messing with the trigger return spring as far "smoothness" goes. a good 3.5 connector, a plunger spring from colt series 80, a striker spring from the SW sigma 9mm or .40 and holding your mouth right will work wonders. you can get the parts from brownells. there, you know all the secrets except for one. try the efk firedragon dual-spring recoil reducer and anybody's 185 grain range ammo in that G21. and kaboom, my noggin' just exploded.--robby:D
 
I have used the NY-1 and NY-3, easy to install. Trigger pull? It’s OK, heavy but smoother than stock. I can't tell any difference in reset. I will carry with one in the pipe with one of these triggers and a good holster that covers the trigger. My normal IDPA setup is 3.5 connector, fluffed and buffed parts and wolf springs which is an OK trigger but too light in my opinion to carry. I do occasionally carry with this setup and a NY trigger.

I'm sure I will get blasted for not shooting what I carry. That’s OK; I shoot my carry setup about once a month and do OK.

After you disassemble your Glock to parade rest the first time you will wonder why you would ever think of "having it done"

IMHO
 
http://www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/

This recommends using a Q-tip, and that will work. However, if you have a Dremel or a flex shaft that will work better and faster.

I have done this on a couple of Glocks. It does indeed smooth up the trigger. I also have put ~15,000 rounds through my Glock 19. It is at least as smooth as the ones I have given the polish job to.

However, 15,000 rounds will cost a bit more than a tube of Semichrome or Flitz.
 
For what you are asking about, I'd recommend the Glock 3.5# connector and NY#1 spring. It gives about a 6# pull with all the characteristics you asked for.

Glockmeister sells a trigger package consisting of the above two factory parts. I've installed this combination of connector and trigger spring in all the Glocks I've owned.

Dave
 
How does this sound?

G21SF - IPSC gun. 3.5# + NY1
G30 - HD, 5.5# + NY1
G36 - CCW, 5.5# + NY1

I ordered 3 new york springs, but have yet to order a 3.5# connector.... but I think that may be what I am looking for.
 
I used to use a New York trigger for carry in a G27. I liked it (used it exclusively until I sold the gun). It was more pleasant after smoothing the disconnector (by polishing) as describing in several places on the web. Careful doing anything more aggressive than polishing (I experimented with stoning, too) as you can actually cause a significant amount of interference without trying.

Ultimately, I wanted a harder trigger pull for safety reasons. I realize some Glock users lighten the heck out of their triggers, along with a light spring, but there are so many things that can go wrong that I think the safety advantage is there with the NYT. Of course, if you carry a Glock you are hopefully already working the details on the rest of your safety "system", whatever it may be.

Plus I found it really didn't affect accuracy much for me.

There is the reliability advantage, too, as you note.

You can mix and match disconnectors and trigger springs to get a variety of "feels". As I recall, one of the NYT springs and a lighter disconnector gives a lighter, more revolver-like pull, exactly as you request. It's been a couple years, so I don't recall for sure, but I believe it was the 3.5# and NYT 1 as Dave T. said.

I think I did ultimately CCW a heavier combo for my own reasons, as stated.

Well worth trying a few configurations if you are at all comfortable messing with your gun!
 
I wanted exactly the same things in my Glock triggers that SHusky57 wanted.
I wanted a little firmer and heavier pull along with the reputed durability of the NY trigger. I put the NY1 spring with the stock 5.5 lb connector in one of my Glocks and after using it, quickly put the same set-up in the rest of them. It was exactly what I was looking for for ME.

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Thanks for the reply Greg!

I too am doing this for my own personal safety reasons. It's not that I have a problem with light triggers, but they are not for me.

I wish the Sig 220 did not have the extractor issues that it does. That would be an ideal .45 for me. Though the Glock 21 I had was a great shooter and uber reliable. I would probably get a 21SF this time around.

Where can I get the springs at? I had some one tell me to check with a certain person on ebay. I checked Guns America and Gun Broker.
 
I wouldn't go for a heavier than stock setup. Under stress its harder to aim a stiff trigger.

Your not going to be able to be as smooth with the trigger under stress and we all know what that deos to accuracy.

Meanwhile trigger disipline is an easy habit to remember under stress. At least for me, so I'm one of those that uses a very light CCW trigger. My experience with a trigger thats too light is that you may fire too soon on follow up shots or during rapid fire may put one into the sky. Never had a problem with nd's or lighting off my first shot too early.

Still its a matter of falling back on your training.

Anyways, the NY1 and Lonewolf 3.5 work well.

There are alot of things you can vary to change the feel of your trigger:
Trigger spring-stiffer springs equal a lighter pull.
Connector- 3.0, 3.5, 5.5, and 8.0# are out there.
striker springs- lighter equals a lighter pull
Striker safety spring- reduced strength springs equal a lighter pull
Polish-duh
Striker safety- a lighter ti safety equals a lighter pull.

Not to mention aftermarket trigger bars.

I'd try the NY1 and 3.5, and use the springs to fine tune it lighter if needed. The NY1 and stock connector were too stiff for me.


I get what you mean about a smooth double action pull. I have found that smoothness.......but my trigger is very, very light. I have not been able to make a stiff Glock trigger smooth.



My setup:
Lonewolf 3.5 connector
Zevtech Ti striker safety and reduced strength spring.
Zevtech comp trigger spring
Zevtech fulcrum trigger bar
Zevtech 2# Striker spring (not recommended by me, too light, but I love it.)

Mothers Polish on a q-tip stuck in a Dremel. Q-tips only last 20 seconds doing this! Dremel polishing discs work, just be gentel, skip the edge of the trigger bar that hits the striker, and don't polish the strikers foot, that screws up the break.


Maybe a NY1or the even weaker (for a stiffer pull) NY2 spring added to my setup would get you close???

I found the 8#+ connectors to be grit city.
 
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I vaguely recall reading in an old post that adding the NY spring changes the procedure for removing the slide. Is this correct?
 
Yes it does..sort of. If you release the tension on the trigger the slide will hang up while removing. Just put a little tension on the trigger it and it comes right off. Everything else is the same.
 
I vaguely recall reading in an old post that adding the NY spring changes the procedure for removing the slide. Is this correct?
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Oops, I see atomd has answered as I was typing...and chasing down a soda:cool: :)
With the NY trigger spring installed, the trigger on my G27 will reset as as the slide is being removed. I just stop, pull the trigger again and continue the procedure.
Regards,
Greg
 
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I wouldn't go for a heavier than stock setup. Under stress its harder to aim a stiff trigger.

Your not going to be able to be as smooth with the trigger under stress and we all know what that deos to accuracy.
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People have been using Sigs, Berettas, and DA revolvers with 12 pound first pulls for a long time effectively. Going from 5.5 to 7 lbs isn't going to hurt anything - and as Dave Sevigny says, "it's all about what you are used to."

We'll see how the NY1 affects my scores next time I get to go to an IPSC match.
 
It has been a while since I last owned a Glock, but when I did (G19), I swapped out the stock coil spring for the original (now NY1) leaf spring, and I really liked the improved feel and higher weight trigger pull.

FWIW.

Based on your stated goals, I'd be inclined to follow the advice from those above who went with the 3.5 connector and the NY-1 leaf.
 
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