I really enjoyed shooting my Remmy 700 Long Range 300 WinMag, especially after I put on a muzzle brake. After only a few hundred rounds the extractor broke. No big deal, I’ll get a new one. Then I entered the ‘system’. I learned Remington changed their 3 year limited warranty to lifetime, then learned they are honoring no warranties for any reason. Then I learned they went bankrupt, stopped making parts, and their parts stock was bought up. I called 3 gunsmiths and all 3 told me similar stories. All 3 said that since the design was changed, broken extractors are pretty common, but nearly impossible to find. The last shop had an extractor on hand, lucky me. Kudos to Collectors Firearms in Houston. I’ve read how I can rivet in a new one myself, or do a Sako conversion, not interested. Not going through this again. As soon as it’s repaired I’m selling it, along with my unfired 200 year anniversary ADL 30-06. To be fair, I also have a 120 year old Remington 1900 12 gauge that’s as reliable as sunup. Oh, well.
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badkarmamib
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I hear you. I love my 700ADL .30/06. Put a Timney trigger and a Burris scope on it. Have stretched it to 400 yards, it is my favorite rifle to load for. But, if anything ever happens to it, it will be replaced with a different brand. Helped my father through the X-Mark disaster, then dealing with an egg-shaped chamber, and a broken extractor like yours. I got lucky, but I am not one to push it.
earlthegoat2
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I guess I would just put the Sako extractor in.
But that’s just me.
But that’s just me.
earlthegoat2
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Usually Rem 700 clone actions like Bighorn or Stiller or Defiance. They will be blueprinted and have upgrades built into them like Sako extractors and integral recoil lugs to name a few.
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I did not know that such a club existed, however, If I had, I would have been a founding member.
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Interesting, shooting a bolt gun in NRA Highpower back in the day, much of what I saw on the line was either a Mauser 98 or Winchester Model 70 action.
Thats what I would do as well.
Remingtons 700 is my favorite action design besides Brownings A-bolt 2......but theres not much I want to change on an A-bolt
Theres 3 major modifications I want on a 700. Side bolt release, m16 extractor (or at least NOT a c-clip extractor), and either a modified X-mark pro or an aftermarket trigger.
Thus Ive switched to just buying the more affordable 700 clones like Bergaras, or Christensens. Still havent gone for a full custom build
I gave up on the 700 years ago. I still keep a 1974 rifle I bought when I was in high school, but I haven't hunted with it in at least 20 years. Take it to the range occasionally. There are so many better choices out of the box. The 700 has a following because it is easy to modify and aftermarket parts are everywhere.
Same reason the Chevy 350 is still the #1 hobby race engine. Inexpensive and parts are everywhere. That doesn't mean a stock block Chevy passenger car engine is the end all be all RACE car motor, tho. Same as the 700, you start with an aftermarket action and work up from there. A stock hunting bolt action which will see a few hundred rounds in it's lifetime won't be the basis of a 10k a year range gun.
It's less "Remington" as it is "Cerberus" bleeding the company of it's capital over the years. We are all hoping it will change for the better since they sold off the bits and pieces. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/r...mington-ammo-franklin-armory-gets-bushmaster/ deliberate plain text link, Remington isnt what it was the last 15 years, it's all different now.
So far so good, doesn't make the older Rems better tho. Those are what they are. We are looking forward to a lot of improvement as it progresses
lightman
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I've often heard that the Remington 700 is the small block Chevy of the gun world. I have several and I'll stick with them. Sorry to hear that you guys are turned off on them. I have one that will soon be rebarreled with a Krieger barrel and a new action that will also get a Krieger barrel whenever my turn comes up in the machine shop.
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Had a minty old 700 BDL. Shot fine, but didnt wow. Sold it, dont regret it.
Only Remingtons left are a vintage M51 and a 1903A3.
Unless they come out with something different AND high quality, dont see myself ever buying anything Remington ever again.
Only Remingtons left are a vintage M51 and a 1903A3.
Unless they come out with something different AND high quality, dont see myself ever buying anything Remington ever again.
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Most recent Remington I had was a 870 Express Tactical. Which is already too many buzzwords just for being polymer, +2 extension, door breacher muzzle, and optics rail. It was pretty lack luster and I sold it to pay bills during a hard time. Don't really miss it. For awhile I wanted an older 700 I could tinker with. But I would rather get a Winchester pre-64 or Classic Model 70.
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Remington action today means something similar to AR platform. Not necessarily that Remington actually made the actions. It’s a general rifle platform now.
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Remington 1903A3 at the top.
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I saw almost no '98s, mostly 700s, 40xs, 70s, and custom actions like Kelbly.
In the '90s, poor beginners were using surplus rifles. A friend (at one time, 12th F-Class shooter in the world) started with a Swedish Model 96 with Redfield Internationals. I started with an M1917 Enfield, first with a Marble rear, then an International rear and Tiger front.
I'm all Savage now (112BVSS in .30-06, 10FP in .308).
If I were starting out today, I'd go straight to Savage.
mcb
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Yeah, despite my former love of Remington I cannot get behind the new RemArms LLC.
I have a 2019 Remington 700 short action in 6mm Creedmoor. It's a factory barrel action with no third-party work other than me dropping in a Timney two-stage trigger and then the complete action into a chassis. When I do my part, it will do this:
That a 5-shot group at 200 yards. There is nothing wrong with the 700 action when done right, and the old Remington occasionally did that.
That said you could roll a $100 bill up and put it in the chamber of a RemArms LLC 700 and I would not give you $80 for it. The current leadership does not deserve our support.
I have a 2019 Remington 700 short action in 6mm Creedmoor. It's a factory barrel action with no third-party work other than me dropping in a Timney two-stage trigger and then the complete action into a chassis. When I do my part, it will do this:
That a 5-shot group at 200 yards. There is nothing wrong with the 700 action when done right, and the old Remington occasionally did that.
That said you could roll a $100 bill up and put it in the chamber of a RemArms LLC 700 and I would not give you $80 for it. The current leadership does not deserve our support.
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twarr1
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I’m taking a wait and see approach to RemArms. Remington was pillaged like many other American firms. Scavenged by a bunch of corporate vultures.
That said, I’m not holding high hopes because the attitude of business to hype next quarters stock price and to hades with long term quality hasn’t changed.
That said, I’m not holding high hopes because the attitude of business to hype next quarters stock price and to hades with long term quality hasn’t changed.
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I do fine with Remington 700s , I think it boils down to haters just don't have the knowledge or experience when it comes to simple repairs and tweaks thus every trip to gunsmith leaves a sour taste . The Remington 700 is a great design , clones prove that .
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The Ki-61 Tony was a great design too, but when you're on fire, augering into the Owen Stanley mountains because Kawasaki couldn't maintain the proper tolerances or heat treatment of a Daimler-Benz 601 clone, and you got waxed by a P-39, the alleged brilliance of the design is a strictly secondary consideration.
Sometimes execution is as important, if not more important than design.
- Remington quality at Norinco prices - Fabulous
- Remington quality at Remington prices - Good
- Norinco quality at Norinco prices - Ok
- Norinco quality at Remington prices - PATHETIC
I shot on an army post AMU in 61-62, planned to shoot civilian service rifle on separation, but w/young family, quickly realized just how expensive match shooting could be.
In '83 finally got back in, still shooting a Garand until front sight "sprouted" a couple of branches and then switched from service rifle to a bolt gun & aperture front sight....probably in the early 90's w/a pre 64 Mod. 70 in 30-06.
Figure I put 30,000 or so rounds through the rifle which is on it's 4th barrel. Dry fired probably 10x that many and rifle remains original having only replaced barrels and stock.
Never shot it in a match, but built a practice rifle on a 1903A3 action w/a takeoff barrel from the Mod. 70, cut back to 24" and rechambered to save wear an tear on my match rifle. That barrel had over 7000 rounds through it, but with "new" throat, still shot great. The slower A3 lock time did put shots 1 ring outside of call on offhand compared to the quicker Mod. 70 action. Not so on sitting/prone, made a great practice rifle, but precluded match use and I didn't want to de-horn the cocking piece to speed it up. Did put a stronger main spring which helped, but even with the extended bolt handle, bolt lift was quite a bit harder than the Winchesters.
I did pick up a new 40XC which was an excellent offhand rifle and super accurate, but the very first round downrange from this rifle was a "FORS" (Remington's designation for Fire on release of safety) and I preferred the controlled round feed of the Winchesters.
Best of my recollection, the 40X, & custom 700's probably outnumbered Mod. 70's and can't recall many, if any surplus actions.
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Sweet story.
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And one oft told.Sweet story.
"Kind of good enough" always turns out badly in combat aircraft and firearms. Both will get you killed, one just more quickly and definitively than the other.
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