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I would not have a problem with a backround check, if it actually checked my backround. The man at the local gunshop knows me, knows my family, and knows the trouble I was in many years ago.
Check with the folks who knew me for many years. Base it on who I am, not on a notation in a file that tells you nothing about me. I know that is impossible on a large scale, but it is one of the main problems.
 
I have received "Delay" many times before (about as many as Proceed), but never "Denied."

Good luck with the appeals, and am very sorry for your frustrations.
 
delayed,,, which is a pita, because I live 50 miles from the nearest "decent" shop. Nothing like having to take 2 trips for 1 item totaling 200 miles!! :)
 
I feel your pain man!

I was denied last Christmas went purchasing a .22LR for my kids. I have been buying guns with only a delay in the past but this time it was flat out denied.
A few months after I submitted my fingerprints and etc. I received a letter stating the process takes a while and to be patient.

:banghead: That was 4 months ago and still no word.
 
Man alive...

I'm glad I don't have a common name....

like Smith, Jones, Green, Kim, Garcia, White, Black, Peterson, Brown, Pike, Wilson, Alvarez, Simmons, Wilson, Gray, Reed, Reilly, Powers, McDonald, Lee, Kraft, Estaphon, Evans, Gallagher, Gagne, Rodgriguez, Rogers, Rose, Ross, Sheehan, etc...

I guess those sad saps don't get constitutionally protected rights.
 
does it work that way? could I be denied simply because some unidentified person that fits my description commits a crime and has yet to be identified and remains at large?
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White male, 6'4", around 180 lbs, short black hair.
CRAP, I can no longer buy a gun, because a guy, somewhere in the US, commited a crime, and happens to look sort of maybe like me.

What a bunch of bullc*@p !!! That letter from FBI was just a poor excuse to their error.
 
My name is not common at all, or so I thought. A guy the next town over has the same name, one month younger than me, black hair, blue eyes, same build, has a rap sheet from here to the moon. I was mistaken for him when I was being treated at the emergency room by a doctor who grew up with this guy's father. HE SAW ME AND STILL THOUHT I WAS HIM!
This all happening in RI which is a very "everyone knows everyone" type of state. I never leave home without my ID. Even though he's in the state pen.
 
Welcome to Government Bureacracy Incompetence 101. My name is Dr. Reality, I'll be your professor for the rest of your life!

Sucks, but what else can you expect from Boobus Governmentus?
 
This is exactly why the NRA should not be sponsoring anything to keep NICS going.
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Yeah, no kidding. What's really scary is some people on this board want to even add mental records to NICS to keep it going. Good luck fighting a denial through that.
 
I'm glad I don't have a common name....

like Smith, Jones, Green, Kim, Garcia, White, Black, Peterson, Brown, Pike, Wilson, Alvarez, Simmons, Wilson, Gray, Reed, Reilly, Powers, McDonald, Lee, Kraft, Estaphon, Evans, Gallagher, Gagne, Rodgriguez, Rogers, Rose, Ross, Sheehan, etc...
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Yup, sure enough I'm in there!, sure enough I was delayed on my last purchase.
 
On a lighter note.

Some years ago, I was doing some work on an Army base. To get an ID card to get on the base unescorted, I had to pass some rudimentary background check.

The base security office stated I needed an NCIC check from my local sheriff along with a statement from the county court clerk that i was not a criminal.

I was in Iowa at the time so someone from where I worked went to get the stuff down at the courthouse and sent it in. The NCIC check was clean, but the court clerk letter stated they were "unable to exclude me" as not having a criminal record in my county. So no ID card. Had to get an escort every day for several weeks while it got cleared up.

Turns out that in my county, unlike every other county in the state, they indexed court records only by last name, first name, and middle initial. My name happened to match the name of someone who had a record. It seems every other county also indexes by DOB, but not mine (at least at that time).

To "exclude" me from having a record, they had to find the actual file which was missing from the filing area and no idea where it was. They sent a memo around to all the likely suspects who apparently have open access to these files and don't bother to log them out, and eventually someone in the state's attorney's office fessed up that they had the file because the case was on going. The clerk sent another letter out "excluding" me, and I got my ID card.

Turned out the guy with my name was like 10 years older, a different race, and currently residing at the local loony bin.
 
my last name is akridge and not at all common. hell, most people can't say it or spell it right. It has to be some kind of identity problem. But I went ahead today and got the ball rollin' on my permit, so hopefully I won't have to endure this kind of constitutional violation ever again.
 
Were you denied, or delayed? Big difference there. Could be someone's been out there using your identity - you really should find out. Just head downtown and start bothering folks.

And stop by the Booth museum for me.
 
i was flat out denied. I've already started my appeal I should hear something by monday or tuesday of next week.
i've been here for 7 years and still havent been by the booth museum
 
What I find amusing about the whole NCIS check is this. Supposedly my name is on the list with the Aviation people as a possible terrorist. I got searched, extra searched, extra extra searched on every flight that I was on for 3 years. Yet when I go to buy a gun, I've never got anything other than a proceed. So I can't fly without a ****load of hassle, but feel free to buy a gun without more than a few minutes of delay.

Kinda funny...
 
HI!
I went through the NICS total of 8 times. Under a minute every time :)

My question: WHY DO SOME CWP ARE SUBSTITUTES FOR NICS AND SOME ARE NOT??? WHY DO I HAVE TO GO THROUGH NICS WITH FLORIDA CWP, BUT IN TEXAS YOU DON'T ???
 
I get delayed every single time, and have for at least 15 years. But I wait the 3 days and go pick it up. Never have had a flat out denial. And I have very common name.
 
I always have an operator involved, there is another Brian Williams around that has a real problem.


The problem with some CWL is that those that are not accepted are not run thru the FBI check for approval, just the States own criminal check.
 
Try a Zabasearch on your own name and see how many people with the same surname come up. We are a country of 300 Million people it's not uncommon for many people to share names today
 
boy you're not kidding. I had no idea there were that many people out there with my name! Im the only one with my middle initial though.
almost all of them are in georgia.
 
My check always goes to an operator as well. I've always been cleared. I always wondered why I consistently get kicked out of the automated system so I did the Zabasearch for my name and only came up with 6 hits.

2 in Alabama with the same address which I assume are the same person.

Me (with my correct address)

My father (with his correct address) and a second with his same birth month and year. Probably the same hit.

One other person in Georgia.

I'm starting to wonder about dad and I'm telling mom about it!:neener:
 
My question: WHY DO SOME CWP ARE SUBSTITUTES FOR NICS AND SOME ARE NOT??? WHY DO I HAVE TO GO THROUGH NICS WITH FLORIDA CWP, BUT IN TEXAS YOU DON'T ???
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I think it has to do with how often the state checks the person with the CCW and how the state treats some cases.

Wyoming just went through a big fight with the BATF because each wanted the power to restore gun rights, so the BATF was not accepting CCWs as an alternative to NICS.

Here is one article on the subject:
http://www.casperstartribune.net/ar.../wyoming/022f85e95b2953118725716a00047caf.txt
 
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