No Reaction to Open Carry at all

[USAFrenegade]

Got to love AZ

I'm TDY with the military in AZ and it is great about OC. Back home in Colorado people freak out (Civilians) when I OC. I have an XD .45 service model that I mostly conceal but some times OC.

 

[Ratfood]

"owens is true, there is a organization trying to get OC here in Texas

http://www.txcdl.org/ here is the link"


Thanks Highfive, My wifey and I just signed up tonight, and we both vote... Hopefully something will come up.

By the way, how do you quote other posts correctly here?

 

[Mainsail]

Originally Posted by Mainsail
I open carry often in and around the Seattle – Tacoma area here in Washington. At first, it got me a couple hassles from uninformed police officers, but we’ve gotten that taken care of. Lately it’s been delightfully uneventful.

IIRC the county had to send out memos saying that open carry was perfectly legal in your county, King county right?

I don’t know, I live in Pierce County. Regardless, our state constitution and our courts agree that open carry is perfectly legal. Walking down the street with an exposed firearm is not illegal, is not brandishing, and does not warrant ‘alarm’ by the law. Until it gets cold again, I’ll be carrying openly for the most part.

 

[Average Guy]

Ah, Prescott. My Willoughby.

 

[Mortech]

Gotta give Mainsail and the gang kudos , they definitely have had an effect on the PD's behavior along the I-5 corridor especially from Seatac on down through Fedway .

 

[Deavis]

He asked what I was carrying and why I didn't carry an auto instead

I second the motion, time for you to get an SP-01. 18 rounds with a great grip, nice heft, and solid accuracy!!!

Enjoy the OC, we have to keep them covered in Texas. The heat, oh man, it is so bad.

 

[JackCrow]

Yeah OC is not really an issue here. However, I did see an incident last weekend. I was in one of the local malls and a guy came into the food court carrying what looked like a 1911. He got his food and as he sat down to eat a security guard came over and talked to him. I wasn't close enough to hear what they said and the conversation appeared to be polite. the man fininshed eating got up and left.

What I assumed happened is that the security guard informed him that the mall has a "No wepons allowed" policy though it is not very obvious at all the entrances. Also there is a childrens play area in the food court so I'm sure some parents probably freaked out but that's just a guess on my part.

 

[Mainsail]

There is an added benefit to open carry here in WA. When you’re concealing and you inadvertently expose your pistol, bending over or reaching for something on a high shelf, it becomes problematic for the police to pursue any action against you. After all, if they decide to read you the riot act you can simply take your jacket off and carry openly. We also don’t have to stress the whole issue of ‘printing’ either.

I’ve been (illegally) detained three times for OC. The first and last time the cop started to recite the standard “concealed pistol exposed” lecture, which was short-circuited when I pointed out that I wasn’t carrying concealed. This causes a good deal of stuttering and backpedaling.

 

[FourTeeFive]

Personally, I think your example should give us all alot of pause - could very well be possible that we are all too paranoid and dote too much over printing and stuff like that.

Good point. The other day I saw a guy pull into a gas station; the car had a "Protected by Smith & Wesson" bumper sticker on it. Not my thing to advertise that, but to each their own. Anyway, he's you're average middle age guy with some extra pounds, and a pretty tight t-shirt on. Sure enough there's quite an outline of a semi-auto pistol grip against his right side. I didn't think anything of it at first but then reflected upon it later. Personally I don't want to indicate that I'm carrying a weapon, and I don't want the location of it known to bad guys. However, maybe I'm too paranoid about it and it shouldn't matter.

As far as open carry goes, I think a lot of it has to do with the appearance of the person. Well-dressed and open carry says "detective" all over it and people probably don't think twice, even in downtown Seattle. That look might get a lot of stares in Prescott, AZ. It really just depends on what people are used to seeing. Not standing out in general tends to negate the effects of open carry.

 

[Sharps-shooter]

A fair number of people open carry where I live, and generally people don't seem to take much notice of it. But it's usually handguns. I want to try going around to some places with my ar 15 hanging off my shoulder and see if that gets any reaction-- just going to the grocery store, or a restaurant, or whatever. I think it would be okay, but I'm not sure.

 

[hksw]

Only one person has shown any response at all. He asked what I was carrying and why I didn't carry an auto instead.

Eh, being curious about why people choose one particular thing over others (not just guns) myself, I'd probably ask the same thing.

 

[JesseL]

To everyone echoing the question of why a revolver instead of an automatic:

1. If you show me where I can find an accurate and reliable semi-auto with a level of power comparable to .41 Magnum, for under $400, I might reconsider the utility of my Blackhawk.

2. I've already got several semi-autos ranging from a Luger P08 to a Daewoo DH40 (which is my everyday ccw). Unfortunately I don't have any really nice open-carry holsters for them. If I'm gonna open carry, I want my rig to look good .

 

[FourTeeFive]

To everyone echoing the question of why a revolver instead of an automatic:

I have no problem with either a revolver or an automatic. But a single-action revolver wouldn't be my first choice for self-defense.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[TallPine]

Even though I carry a DA revolver, I feel like I could get a good accurate first shot off a lot faster with a SA.

Someday, maybe I'll save up the airgead for a "new" Vaquero in .357

 

[peacemaker45]

You don't have to explain carrying a single action to me, Jesse.

if I'm gonna carry a revolver, it's gonna be a single action. Gimme my cowboy leather, and I'll have five in the target in about a second and a half. With a double action, I might match that in about three seconds, and probably still have holes scattered from here to kingdom come. But, that's what i get when the only pistols I've shot much in the last couple of years are SAAs and 1911s.

~~~Mat, AKA Jerkline Jesse, SASS# 64073

 

[M1 Shooter]

1. If you show me where I can find an accurate and reliable semi-auto with a level of power comparable to .41 Magnum, for under $400, I might reconsider the utility of my Blackhawk.

Glock 20 10mm Auto with Double Tap Ammunition http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_25. Of course, it costs more than $400, but you might be able to find one on the used market for not much more than $400.

There's also the Witness available in 10mm Auto which can be found for around $400 NIB and less than $400 for used. The Witness is a good solid gun. A friend of mine has one, its been very reliable with decent accuracy for him, but I prefer the Glock because it is softer shooting, has a higher capacity(15+1), and it feels better to me.

 

[JesseL]

Quote:

1. If you show me where I can find an accurate and reliable semi-auto with a level of power comparable to .41 Magnum, for under $400, I might reconsider the utility of my Blackhawk.

Glock 20 10mm Auto with Double Tap Ammunition http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...hp?cPath=21_25.

Maybe if you compare the hottest of the 10mm loads with the tamest .41 loads, but I don't see anything for the 10mm that compares with serious .41 loads.

 

[koja48]

the standard “concealed pistol exposed” lecture,

While I prefer to carry concealed, I do OC in SE WA state on occasion. I now keep a scaled-down copy of RCW 9.41.050 - "Carrying firearms" in my wallet for the future edification of any authorities unfamiliar with the "presumptively legal" aspect of open carry here.

 

[M1 Shooter]

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1. If you show me where I can find an accurate and reliable semi-auto with a level of power comparable to .41 Magnum, for under $400, I might reconsider the utility of my Blackhawk.

Glock 20 10mm Auto with Double Tap Ammunition http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...hp?cPath=21_25.

Maybe if you compare the hottest of the 10mm loads with the tamest .41 loads, but I don't see anything for the 10mm that compares with serious .41 loads.

True, true, but what is the controllability of those heavy .41's in a revolver compared to the hot 10mm's out of an auto? Or maybe more importantly, how good are you at firing rapid controlled accurate shots with those loads in your revolver?

The Glock 20 also can have 16 rounds on tap. Those 16 rounds collectively have more energy available than 6 rounds of even the heaviest loads of .41 Magnum in a lighter, more controllable package.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against your revolver, I like revolvers very much, and your choice of a Blackhawk is excellent.

But.....you asked for an auto pistol with comparable, not equal, power to your .41 Magnum, and in my opinion a 10mm Auto is comparable to a .41 Magnum.

 

[JesseL]

True, true, but what is the controllability of those heavy .41's in a revolver compared to the hot 10mm's out of an auto? Or maybe more importantly, how good are you at firing rapid controlled accurate shots with those loads in your revolver?

All the loads I've fired have been very controllable. When I got this revolver, I wanted something suitable for plinking, hiking, and hunting. Since encountering black bear is a possibility, and I may want to hunt game as large as elk at some point - the .41 seemed to best suit my needs.

My own choice of daily carry gun (40 S&W) shows that I don't really think the Blackhawk is an ideal defensive piece in an urban environment either. It does make a nice statement for open carry and is still entirely adequate for defense.

 

[Chris B]

I've been OC'ing my cz 82 for the past two days in Prescott as well. No reaction at Hastings or The Dinner Bell. The most reaction I've gotten has been from my brothers hippie friends (PC students) when they saw me carrying.

 

[HB]

Look...

You should have turned around to see all the women and children fainting

Nice Rig.

HB

 

[mikebnem]

I have done that in Vermont with out
any problems.

What a COOL STATE.

 

[AZAndy]

Well-dressed and open carry says "detective" all over it and people probably don't think twice, even in downtown Seattle. That look might get a lot of stares in Prescott, AZ.

Here in Prescott, you're well-dressed if you're wearing the jeans that don't have holes in them.

 

[JesseL]

Wow, zombie thread.

I've been OC'ing my cz 82 for the past two days in Prescott as well. No reaction at Hastings or The Dinner Bell. The most reaction I've gotten has been from my brothers hippie friends (PC students) when they saw me carrying.

Welcome to town! I'm curious what the PC students had to say. They add an interesting juxtaposition to the regular locals don't they? I do enjoy the vibrance and variety they add.

You should have turned around to see all the women and children fainting

I just assumed the women were swooning at the sight of my rugged good looks.

I have done that in Vermont with out
any problems.

What a COOL STATE.

Beautiful feeling, isn't it?

Here in Prescott, you're well-dressed if you're wearing the jeans that don't have holes in them.

If figure it's still okay if the holes aren't too noticeable.